The Energon Pub

[Albatross250]

Starscream's Decepticon insignia looks weird but it looks like a Seeker type Decepticon now.




ON THE OTHER SIDE APEFACE, UGH FINALLY, ITS BEEN 4 YEARS.

[Cobotron]

That robot mode for Starscream is sexy AF!

For me it's enough to make up for any short comings in his alt mode.
Which for me personally, isn't that bad either.

[william-james88]

for those keeping track, almost all the wishes from this top 5 list are coming true:
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... nes/41252/

And I mean, they should, those were the glaring omissions in the generations line.

All we need is Deathsaurus and Snapgradon and my list will be fullfilled

[Big Grim]

Apeface?!? Ooooooooooooo, if it's good, it'll join Skytread on my desk!

[Hellscream9999]

It is unknown if this was intentional or not form Hasbro.

Well, it's Warden, so, yeah, it was intentional

[GeekyGamer Gal]

Anyone else notice the nod to Prime 'Screamer here with the heels?

I do like the idea of extra support around the turbine, and the little visual reference to my favorite variation of Starscream.

[william-james88]

Anyone else notice the nod to Prime 'Screamer here with the heels?

I do like the idea of extra support around the turbine, and the little visual reference to my favorite variation of Starscream.

That reffers to the MP starscream which predates Prime Starscream

[Dr. Caelus]

Astrotrain being Leader Class instead of Commander class feels like a missed opportunity. Will be interesting to see how they work in the armor gimmick if at all.

Although... what if LC Siege Astrotrain is a retool of VC TR Astrotrain with transforming armor? Sounds pointless maybe, but they could turn that around and recolor it as Leader Class Sentinel Prime with the Apex Armor from Megatron: Origin.

Edit: 35th Anniversary line already has Soundblaster, right? Probably means we won't get a 'clean' version of Soundwave with red optics. Also, after all these years, why has Soundwave never gotten a G1 Marvel inspired deco?

[Nathaniel Prime]

Anyone else notice the nod to Prime 'Screamer here with the heels?

I do like the idea of extra support around the turbine, and the little visual reference to my favorite variation of Starscream.

That reffers to the MP starscream which predates Prime Starscream

I knew that's why.

I really like both of these. Soundwave looks awesome, and Starscream is great. I thought Starscream would have a kibble backpack, but it actually cleans up quite nicely. Although, I have seen pictures of those thrusters on top, and that they can rotate to sit against his back, and even that doesn't look kibbly at all.

Soundwave and Starscream are both gonna be awesome, and I hope to get them both.

I hope that Astrotrain and Snapdragons are confirmed, because that excites me

[Carnivius_Prime]

something about Starscream looks like he's kinda melted or made of cake or something. I dunno how to explain it. They all have something like that about them but it just seems more noticable on him with all that white and red looking kinda tasty... Not sure why he's even got that earth jet cockpit in bot mode either but whatever

Soundwave's 'boombox' mode looks pretty much like any robot that can fold it's legs up like that. It's not quite up finding out the rather awesome bat-mode of RotF Mindwipe or anything.

I just wanna see how tall Springer is and comparisons with other figures now he's confirmed a voyager and not the deluxe i was kinda hoping for.

[Cheetron]

Starscreams backpack killed him. I was hoping it wouldn't end up sticking out an inch. Pass for me now

[Soundwave-Superior]

It looks like Soundwave's arms were pulled off to achieve that "boombox" mode - they have no joint that would allow them to fold back and leave room for the legs.

[Cyberpath]

something about Starscream looks like he's kinda melted or made of cake or something. I dunno how to explain it. [snip]

I see it now!

[ZeroWolf]

It looks like Soundwave's arms were pulled off to achieve that "boombox" mode - they have no joint that would allow them to fold back and leave room for the legs.

I think you may be right judging from the pictures

[Wolfman Jake]

Soundwave is giving some serious side-eye.

Getting back to the newly leaked Apeface listing and a possible Snapdragon to follow, how do we think Hasbro is handling the Horrorcons this time around? Will they be completely compatible with the Titans Return system of play? If so, it's hard to imagine the Headmaster units would retain their original G1 gimmick of forming both the robot mode head and the beast mode head. I assume that if TR backwards compatibility is important, Spasma and Krunk will only form the robot mode heads. Which route would you rather they take, or are there other ideas on how to either compromise on these gimmicks or alternatively to have it all?

[Sentinel_Primal]

Soundwave is giving some serious side-eye.

Getting back to the newly leaked Apeface listing and a possible Snapdragon to follow, how do we think Hasbro is handling the Horrorcons this time around? Will they be completely compatible with the Titans Return system of play? If so, it's hard to imagine the Headmaster units would retain their original G1 gimmick of forming both the robot mode head and the beast mode head. I assume that if TR backwards compatibility is important, Spasma and Krunk will only form the robot mode heads. Which route would you rather they take, or are there other ideas on how to either compromise on these gimmicks or alternatively to have it all?

Personally, I feel like it might not be backwards compatible to Titans Return, but maybe back to Thrilling 30 Brainstorm. Just for the head to look normal sized. But, considering this line is about returning to the original gimmicks, I'd be surprised if they weren't pulling double duty, and backwards compatible

[Skritz]

Apeface?! NOW?! Hoooolyyyyy craaaaap this better be real and there better be a Snapdragon coming along.

[no-one]

Getting back to the newly leaked Apeface listing and a possible Snapdragon to follow, how do we think Hasbro is handling the Horrorcons this time around? Will they be completely compatible with the Titans Return system of play? If so, it's hard to imagine the Headmaster units would retain their original G1 gimmick of forming both the robot mode head and the beast mode head. I assume that if TR backwards compatibility is important, Spasma and Krunk will only form the robot mode heads. Which route would you rather they take, or are there other ideas on how to either compromise on these gimmicks or alternatively to have it all?

Personally, I feel like it might not be backwards compatible to Titans Return, but maybe back to Thrilling 30 Brainstorm. Just for the head to look normal sized. But, considering this line is about returning to the original gimmicks, I'd be surprised if they weren't pulling double duty, and backwards compatible

I doubt they will ever go back to the T30 BS headmaster size (one off size figure) and be much more likely to stick with TR titanmasters (Jetfire is already compatible). My guess is maybe the beast modes heads would have a helmet type gimmick like the TR leaders did. So the new head/titan masters would form the robot head and plug into a beast helmet or mask type scenario.

[Wolfman Jake]

Personally, I feel like it might not be backwards compatible to Titans Return, but maybe back to Thrilling 30 Brainstorm. Just for the head to look normal sized. But, considering this line is about returning to the original gimmicks, I'd be surprised if they weren't pulling double duty, and backwards compatible

I doubt they will ever go back to the T30 BS headmaster size (one off size figure) and be much more likely to stick with TR titanmasters (Jetfire is already compatible). My guess is maybe the beast modes heads would have a helmet type gimmick like the TR leaders did. So the new head/titan masters would form the robot head and plug into a beast helmet or mask type scenario.

Yeah, since we've got an "easter egg" for Titan and Prime Masters being able to ride in Jetfire's cockpit, I would assume Hasbro would stay with that standard for any additional Headmaster gimmick characters for the foreseeable future. That said, I like the idea of the beast mode heads being a helmet or mask that pops out and covers the Titan Master head or face, akin to some of the Voyager and Leader Class figures in the Titans Return line. Let's just hope Hasbro has learned from the mistake that is Voyager Galvatron's "mask," though.

[Skritz]

The sad thing with Galvatron is that he clearly had the space for having a full-blown helmet, like the Leader class figures did. So in his case he's a legitimate screw up on Hasbro's part.

As for Siege Horrocons, if they do happen, I wouldn't be too bothered if they didn't have the Titan Master interaction. However, in a line which is all about staying true to gimmicks (well mostly) and with Hasbro having all the groundwork laid out already for Headmasters via the Titan/Prime Master engineering it would be silly if any future Headmaster leftover was not compatible. I'm aware the horrocons are weird for headmasters but there are plenty of ways to have them have the beast head without compromising the Titan Master interaction, include simply making the beast head a kibble part. Of course its also plausible that the Horrorcons have a headmaster gimmick which is stand-alone for the sake of G1 accuracy.

As long as they happen and as long as they got headmaster integration I'll gladly add them to my collection to complete the Decepticon Headmasters.

[Zeedust]

...Still waiting for a pic of lamppost mode.

[Soundwave-Superior]

...Still waiting for a pic of lamppost mode.

[no-one]

I forget, what size class is the rumored Apeface? And more importantly, what is the preferred/desired size class?

For me I'd rather deluxe so they can chill with the other monster type bots from TR and PotP.

[Cobotron]

I forget, what size class is the rumored Apeface? And more importantly, what is the preferred/desired size class?

For me I'd rather deluxe so they can chill with the other monster type bots from TR and PotP.

Voyager. But traditionally, I think they were a tad bigger than the other HMs.

[Nathaniel Prime]

...Still waiting for a pic of lamppost mode.

Arms being folded on the back makes me think if that's how the arms disappear in tape deck mode. Then again, where would those boosters go?

BTW, love the boosters look in lamp mode. Makes me wonder if we can access them in robot mode for mega cannons or something