The Energon Pub

[sol magnus]

Yeaaaaahhhh....definitely getting this. Might even be worth a pre-order.

[o.supreme]

I feel all the Siege prices should be at 75% of what they are selling at. Or line up with the studio series prices.

But, the SIEGE and Studio Series prices DO line up. Deluxe Class = $19.99, Voyager Class = $29.99, and Leader Class = $49.99 for BOTH toy lines.

While that is true in general. In some locations, Walmart for instance, SS Deluxe are retailing at a normal lower price of $17.96, as opposed to Generations $19.96, thus a possible reason for noting a discrepancy.

[william-james88]

I feel all the Siege prices should be at 75% of what they are selling at. Or line up with the studio series prices.

But, the SIEGE and Studio Series prices DO line up. Deluxe Class = $19.99, Voyager Class = $29.99, and Leader Class = $49.99 for BOTH toy lines.

While that is true in general. In some locations, Walmart for instance, SS Deluxe are retailing at a normal lower price of $17.96, as opposed to Generations $19.96, thus a possible reason for noting a discrepancy.

That's just Walmart taking a hit on a toyline they bought more of. I think Epsilon was more referring to the idea that the leaders in the SS line were more in line with their definition of what a leader should be.

[Microbot]

If the last one of this 1st part is Omega Supreme. So according to you how could the second part of War for Cybertron be structured and with which robots?

[Skritz]

Honestly I'm not entirely sure if Galvatron could ever register as a 'high priority' for Hasbro. Truth be told, his TR Toy was pretty damn good outside of the horrendous implementation of the titan master and the crown. People give him too much crap, given he's shockingly toon-accurate in spite of being a triple-changer.

[PushYouDown]

I'd go for a new Galvatron---a better head and a better implementation of the arm cannon would be great.

[Sentinel_Primal]

I doubt that it would happen but I think it would be kind of cool if the current trend of "voyager with armor" leaders continued to a new Galvatron. Either in a Shockwave capacity or with a Magnus twist with Megatron getting armor from Unicron and becoming Galvatron. Obviously if they went with the Megatron evolving, the base Megatron would need to basically be Galvatron with a new cannon, crown, and boots being the armor to fully turn him

[Skritz]

If we get a new Galvatron I'd love to see those concepts/ideas (somehow!) reused:

[notsoalex]

From Dengeki Hobby, we have some great new photos of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege SG-36 Deluxe Class Impactor. If you don't recall, this is our fan vote winner from the War for Cybertron Trilogy, along with Mirage, who unfortunately has no Takara Tomy photos as of late. We also have included images of SG-37 Leader Class Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime, though he has already made it to US toy shelves, or will very soon. Do these new images shed new light on these figures for you? We hope so, and tell us your thoughts in the Pub forums below!

[Sentinel_Primal]

Impactor is... Looking better and also slightly worse? I'm starting to like the boxiness and general design, but the colors are iffy. The yellow is too yellow and the purple is too dark for my tastes. And wasn't he originally supposed to be a Decepticon in the fan vote?

[Wireless_Phantom]

Impactor is looking better. It's a shame the paint doesn't quite match the plastic as far as the yellow is concerned but I'm share it won't be so bad in less intense lighting. I'm still on the fence about Galaxy Prime. He looks really good but I'm on a tight budget and something has to give if I'm going to get Omega and Jetfire.

[Wireless_Phantom]

I doubt we'll get Galvaltron in Siege... Next year's line though or the one after that. But we generally know everything we're getting from Siege

You’re probably right, given the whole “pre-war” focus. It makes you wonder what the next two “themes” will be after Siege. I know the line is called War for Cybertron, but will we be seeing an Earth themed line next, or a continuation of the “Cybertronian mode” motif? Who knows.

This is just me, but I’m still waiting for the resurgence of Pretenders. Not those half-assed, lowest-price point Power of the Primes figures, but proper pretenders. There’s a lot of character potential, double pretenders, vehicle pretenders, the likes.

I personally think we could see a "time skip" from pre-Earth Cybertron to Rebirth Cybertron for the next part of the trilogy and then maybe an odd mix of the two Cybertrons for the last one if the Prine Wars trilogy is anything to go by with them combining the previous two line's gimmicks for the last one

I'd like that, but really who else is left from specifically post-rebirth other than Scorponok, Apeface, Snapdragon, Autobot Targetmasters, and Hosehead. I guess we could also throw in toy only's, so all the Targetmaster Juniors, the Headmaster Juniors, and maybe powermasters. Actually thinking about that, it could fill out a line nicely. Maybe get a proper Leader PMOP for the requisite leader Optimus and throw in a voyager or leader Godbomber to complete that. I wouldn't like it, and I doubt anyone would, but they could also turn the Powermaster engines into Targetmaster partners if for whatever reason they get through all of the ones from the Autobot Targetmasters and all of the target master juniors.

Then of course the fun part begins when the last part of the trilogy rolls around and goes full JG1. Victory Leo could stand in as the requisite leader Optimus via a technicality.

[Agent 53]

Planning on Getting Prime.
I already have Magnus I'd I'd say the leg guns look better upside down.

[ZeroWolf]

Greetings fellow Seibertronians! Today we bring you a fantastic video review of the forthcoming Transformers: War for Cybertron Siege Deluxe Class Refraktor/Reflector! This review comes courtesy of fellow Seibertronian, Chuckdawg1999!

In the G1 cartoon and in the toyline, Reflector was three robots who shared the same alt mode of a camera, and their animation model was often used to fill out scenes. Here there is technically one figure but if you buy three of them, you can recreate the old alt mode! You can see this in Chucks video below!

Heres a tidbit on what he has to say on the figure...

Hasbro does know how to make sales. Buying three of the Refraktor figure allows you to create the classic camera mode of the original toy, it's quite ingenious how all the parts come together. The standalone figure is really good with a cool looking ship mode that 99% of collectors will probably only use once.

What do you think of this review? Looking forward to Refraktor/Reflector? Are you buying three (or more)? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

[YoungPrime]

Some size comparison's would've been nice but other than that the review was quite informative.

I'm only buying 1 of these since I had already given up on waiting for a new Reflector set by Hasbro and bought the Papa Toys version last fall. So they'll be my "Reflector" trio.

I do like to troop build the Decepticons in my collection so I will buy just 1 Refractor who will just go by that name and will be recon for Shockwave. But if they do make a G1 version that comes as Spectro, Spyglass and Viewfinder in their G1 toy colors I might cave in and grab that set anyway.

[william-james88]

Honestly I'm not entirely sure if Galvatron could ever register as a 'high priority' for Hasbro. Truth be told, his TR Toy was pretty damn good outside of the horrendous implementation of the titan master and the crown. People give him too much crap, given he's shockingly toon-accurate in spite of being a triple-changer.

I agree with all of this. And I too think he isnt high priority. I would much rather see other characters who never got decent neo g1 toys get a chance than a character I already have.

[AcademyofDrX]

I doubt we'll get Galvaltron in Siege... Next year's line though or the one after that. But we generally know everything we're getting from Siege

You’re probably right, given the whole “pre-war” focus. It makes you wonder what the next two “themes” will be after Siege. I know the line is called War for Cybertron, but will we be seeing an Earth themed line next, or a continuation of the “Cybertronian mode” motif? Who knows.

This is just me, but I’m still waiting for the resurgence of Pretenders. Not those half-assed, lowest-price point Power of the Primes figures, but proper pretenders. There’s a lot of character potential, double pretenders, vehicle pretenders, the likes.

I personally think we could see a "time skip" from pre-Earth Cybertron to Rebirth Cybertron for the next part of the trilogy and then maybe an odd mix of the two Cybertrons for the last one if the Prine Wars trilogy is anything to go by with them combining the previous two line's gimmicks for the last one

I'd like that, but really who else is left from specifically post-rebirth other than Scorponok, Apeface, Snapdragon, Autobot Targetmasters, and Hosehead. I guess we could also throw in toy only's, so all the Targetmaster Juniors, the Headmaster Juniors, and maybe powermasters. Actually thinking about that, it could fill out a line nicely. Maybe get a proper Leader PMOP for the requisite leader Optimus and throw in a voyager or leader Godbomber to complete that. I wouldn't like it, and I doubt anyone would, but they could also turn the Powermaster engines into Targetmaster partners if for whatever reason they get through all of the ones from the Autobot Targetmasters and all of the target master juniors.

Then of course the fun part begins when the last part of the trilogy rolls around and goes full JG1. Victory Leo could stand in as the requisite leader Optimus via a technicality.

Speculation is speculation, so there are no wrong answers. Speaking personally, I would be very surprised to see more Headmasters, Targetmasters, Powermasters, or Pretenders in the main line. Half of the Powermasters were in PotP, and the other groups were also heavily represented in the last trilogy. If Generations continues to lean heavily on major cartoon characters and the original line + 30, I expect to see more 1985 bots and maybe some Action Master and late G1 characters.

From a narrative standpoint, it doesn't make any sense to jump to Rebirth. There's an ongoing comic and an upcoming animated series. It wouldn't help those stories. In a war, what follows a siege? I would expect "Fall" next, followed by "Escape" or something similar. Evacuation, exile, etc.

More interesting, and perhaps more useful, is wondering what the play feature will be. The major ones for this year are Fire Blasts and Battle Masters, and Weaponizers, as well as weaponizer-like capabilities for Leaders. Personally, I'm hoping that they'll keep Fire Blasts, and maybe add explosion effects, but I don't know how likely that is. I've been trying to look at it two ways: what are the play features that could add value with 1985 and 1990 figures, and how could a new play feature define the types of characters that they would then release?

[sol magnus]

Anybody see a Straxus coming out of that Impactor? Just me?

[notsoalex]

Impactor is... Looking better and also slightly worse? I'm starting to like the boxiness and general design, but the colors are iffy. The yellow is too yellow and the purple is too dark for my tastes. And wasn't he originally supposed to be a Decepticon in the fan vote?

Takara Tomy stock photos have some kind of filter, the final product probably looks different.

[Stargrave]

Impactor is looking better. It's a shame the paint doesn't quite match the plastic as far as the yellow is concerned but I'm share it won't be so bad in less intense lighting. I'm still on the fence about Galaxy Prime. He looks really good but I'm on a tight budget and something has to give if I'm going to get Omega and Jetfire.

Dude I’d hard pass on him then I think Omega’s that A-1 winner go for the big boys and just enjoy pics or reviews of Galaxy boy.

[Stargrave]

If we get a new Galvatron I'd love to see those concepts/ideas (somehow!) reused:

Now I’ve seen that MegaGalvatron art before (wicked) but what’s that second piece that’s really intruiging.

[Stargrave]

Anybody see a Straxus coming out of that Impactor? Just me?

Oooo!! That’d be so much awesome! Gah good ideas everyone ahh I love fan speculation...

[Skritz]

If we get a new Galvatron I'd love to see those concepts/ideas (somehow!) reused:

Now I’ve seen that MegaGalvatron art before (wicked) but what’s that second piece that’s really intruiging.

Early concepts of a scrapped upgraded Galvatron. I believe (but don't quote me on this) that it was meant to be his Actionmaster design. Definitely a gimmick-era, post season 3 Galvatron but I'm not 100% sure on his gimmick.

[Stargrave]

You know what that was saying Action Master to me too that’s awesome. I also am reminded of the Robotech Invid robots from shoot season 3 I think. Someone hungrily pounce on this one I’m blanking. I loved Action Masters as a kid despite their faults man I would have loved that thing.

[chuckdawg1999]

Some size comparison's would've been nice but other than that the review was quite informative.

I'm only buying 1 of these since I had already given up on waiting for a new Reflector set by Hasbro and bought the Papa Toys version last fall. So they'll be my "Reflector" trio.
I do like to troop build the Decepticons in my collection so I will buy just 1 Refractor who will just go by that name and will be recon for Shockwave. But if they do make a G1 version that comes as Spectro, Spyglass and Viewfinder in their G1 toy colors I might cave in and grab that set anyway.

Thanks for watching. I used to do size comparisons but YouTube pulled the videos due to some indecent exposure rules or something.