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They better do dirtboss and the monster trucks

[sol magnus]

Might have to get out my old Dreamwave encyclopedia again (did they ever trade paperback that?) but... we got ratbat frumble and half of the off-road patrol with orange semi and grey jeep/suv?

They did. In two volumes.

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(did they ever trade paperback that?)

IDW did reprint the DW sourcebooks.... they collected all 8 issues into 2 volumes. I'm glad I have them, though sadly they are long OOP (I have the original 8 issues also, but the TPB's are an easy reference).

I was hoping at some point IDW would do another set of Guidebooks for new characters and Japanese characters not included in the original. But a lot of fans wanted all new profile books seeing as how IDW changed so any of the characters. It would have been quite cumbersome, which is probably why IDW chose not to go there. Of course, now with IDW being completely rebooted again...who knows.

[SpikeyTigertron]

Might have to get out my old Dreamwave encyclopedia again (did they ever trade paperback that?) but... we got ratbat frumble and half of the off-road patrol with orange semi and grey jeep/suv?

They did. In two volumes.

Oh, may have track those down.

Would be cool if they talked idw into it again

[SpikeyTigertron]

What other combiner teams do you think we’ll get? What are the chances the blackbird team is another sword lol

[SpikeyTigertron]

(did they ever trade paperback that?)

IDW did reprint the DW sourcebooks.... they collected all 8 issues into 2 volumes. I'm glad I have them, though sadly they are long OOP (I have the original 8 issues also, but the TPB's are an easy reference).

I was hoping at some point IDW would do another set of Guidebooks for new characters and Japanese characters not included in the original. But a lot of fans wanted all new profile books seeing as how IDW changed so any of the characters. It would have been quite cumbersome, which is probably why IDW chose not to go there. Of course, now with IDW being completely rebooted again...who knows.

At they very least they could use the War for Cyberton trappings and have short bios with stat ratings. Update the Micromasters with weapon modes (if they must). I adore the instructions have them, but a source book with it all in one place would be slick. Could flesh out the rank insignia that I don’t believe we’ve had explained?

[SpikeyTigertron]

Wonder if we’ll get Raiden/six build/ etc before this is over. Bonus points, they’re big enough to hold the other Micromaster weapons

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Wonder if we’ll get Raiden/six build/ etc before this is over. Bonus points, they’re big enough to hold the other Micromaster weapons

I have mixed feelings here. It sounds odd, but I'd really like *if* there were any re-releases of Micromaster Combiner teams from Operaton Combinaton, that they be scaled up to match the current CW/PotP combiner system. The issue is, since they all have 6 members, that each one wojuld lose a member, or be relegated to a legends class as some form of accessory.

I would be OK, however if the Micromaster OC combiner teams stayed small If they could do THIS:

[SpikeyTigertron]

Wonder if we’ll get Raiden/six build/ etc before this is over. Bonus points, they’re big enough to hold the other Micromaster weapons

I have mixed feelings here. It sounds odd, but I'd really like *if* there were any re-releases of Micromaster Combiner teams from Operaton Combinaton, that they be scaled up to match the current CW/PotP combiner system. The issue is, since they all have 6 members, that each one wojuld lose a member, or be relegated to a legends class as some form of accessory.

I would be OK, however if the Micromaster OC combiner teams stayed small If they could do THIS:

Is that one of the micro combiners taking a piece out of Bruticus? I’m a little confused because there is a black and white “combiner” shuttle.

[ZeroWolf]

Still waiting for Battle Gaia and Guard City redecos Takara...

[SpikeyTigertron]

Still waiting for Battle Gaia and Guard City redecos Takara...

Is battle Gaia different from Baligus,

[Sabrblade]

Wonder if we’ll get Raiden/six build/ etc before this is over. Bonus points, they’re big enough to hold the other Micromaster weapons

I have mixed feelings here. It sounds odd, but I'd really like *if* there were any re-releases of Micromaster Combiner teams from Operaton Combinaton, that they be scaled up to match the current CW/PotP combiner system. The issue is, since they all have 6 members, that each one wojuld lose a member, or be relegated to a legends class as some form of accessory.

I would be OK, however if the Micromaster OC combiner teams stayed small If they could do THIS:

The impression I always had was that the Micromaster Six-Combiners merged to form average- or slighty-taller-than-average-sized guys.

Sixliner (the first of these combiners) in particular didn't seem to be that much bigger than a normal TF.

In particular, when Sixliner is held captive by False Convoy, he looks to be about the same size as Optimus's original body (who, in said body, was a pretty tall guy, but not gigantic), since False Convoy is an evil copy of Optimus in his old body.

[ZeroWolf]

Wonder if we’ll get Raiden/six build/ etc before this is over. Bonus points, they’re big enough to hold the other Micromaster weapons

I have mixed feelings here. It sounds odd, but I'd really like *if* there were any re-releases of Micromaster Combiner teams from Operaton Combinaton, that they be scaled up to match the current CW/PotP combiner system. The issue is, since they all have 6 members, that each one wojuld lose a member, or be relegated to a legends class as some form of accessory.

I would be OK, however if the Micromaster OC combiner teams stayed small If they could do THIS:

Is that one of the micro combiners taking a piece out of Bruticus? I’m a little confused because there is a black and white “combiner” shuttle.

Thats the Micromaster Combiners putting their power with Guard City (a Defensor redeco) to destroy Battle Gaia (a Bruticus redeco) its from the Japanese only Operation Combiner toyline which also saw Metroplex redecoed in to the Decepticon Metro Titan. I can't remember if the story was told through story pages like the Return of Convoy was

[SpikeyTigertron]

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Sixwing

Huh.... didn’t know the combiner kibble combined into a jet... that’s slick

[Sabrblade]

Still waiting for Battle Gaia and Guard City redecos Takara...

Is battle Gaia different from Baligus,

Yes.

[Sabrblade]

Thats the Micromaster Combiners putting their power with Guard City (a Defensor redeco) to destroy Battle Gaia (a Bruticus redeco) its from the Japanese only Operation Combiner toyline which also saw Metroplex redecoed in to the Decepticon Metro Titan. I can't remember if the story was told through story pages like the Return of Convoy was

Metrotitan was from Zone, two toylines before Operation Combination.

And yes, it was told through story pages with no manga.

[SpikeyTigertron]

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Landcross_(Victory)

Not to derail much further from siege.... but if I understand this right.... the combiner is made up of 3 “duocons” which would be six “micro masters”.... so this could be done at *maybe* micro master scale or “scout” sized with battletrap/flywheels as a predecessor?!

Also if anyone wants clearer/close ups of any of that 10 pack, let me know

[SpikeyTigertron]

Still waiting for Battle Gaia and Guard City redecos Takara...

Is battle Gaia different from Baligus,

Yes.

Could see that in Selects. That’s a sweet deco

[Jelze Bunnycat]

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Landcross_(Victory)

Not to derail much further from siege.... but if I understand this right.... the combiner is made up of 3 “duocons” which would be six “micro masters”.... so this could be done at *maybe* micro master scale or “scout” sized with battletrap/flywheels as a predecessor?!

Also if anyone wants clearer/close ups of any of that 10 pack, let me know

You've already provided pics of some of the anomaly, namely Fireline using the Red Heat head instead of the Topshot one. Kudos for that.

[Stargrave]

I was watching the intro to Victory on YouTube earlier it just came up randomly and I was wishful thinking oh this is totally going to be ‘Siege’ phase 3.

I would love to see what they do with a Siege (Generations/WFC) styled Road Caesar. All of em, I mean Generations styles for all of em, I’ve wanted those toys since I learned they existed forever ago.

[SpikeyTigertron]

I was watching the intro to Victory on YouTube earlier it just came up randomly and I was wishful thinking oh this is totally going to be ‘Siege’ phase 3.

I would love to see what they do with a Siege (Generations/WFC) styled Road Caesar. All of em, I mean Generations styles for all of em, I’ve wanted those toys since I learned they existed forever ago.

I'm suddenly sad that Star Convoy ended up being in Selects and a retool of PotP Prime, instead of a retool of TR Prime T_T... need more base mode!

[SpikeyTigertron]

speaking of "bases" that could be some Major Kudos if they do Tidal Wave right as a Commander class. If the aircraft carrier and "landing boat" could be compatible with micromasters.

[SpikeyTigertron]

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Landcross_(Victory)

Not to derail much further from siege.... but if I understand this right.... the combiner is made up of 3 “duocons” which would be six “micro masters”.... so this could be done at *maybe* micro master scale or “scout” sized with battletrap/flywheels as a predecessor?!

Also if anyone wants clearer/close ups of any of that 10 pack, let me know

You've already provided pics of some of the anomaly, namely Fireline using the Red Heat head instead of the Topshot one. Kudos for that.

Thanks! yeah, all in all there were more "changes" than I was expecting. That seemed to be the biggest one. But I think Cratermaker also had a different chest/head as well.

I previously wasn't even paying attention/aware all the sports cars were different.

Makes me wish there was more variation in the planes... but I think they also got the lion's share of the paint too.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Landcross_(Victory)

Not to derail much further from siege.... but if I understand this right.... the combiner is made up of 3 “duocons” which would be six “micro masters”.... so this could be done at *maybe* micro master scale or “scout” sized with battletrap/flywheels as a predecessor?!

Also if anyone wants clearer/close ups of any of that 10 pack, let me know

You've already provided pics of some of the anomaly, namely Fireline using the Red Heat head instead of the Topshot one. Kudos for that.

Thanks! yeah, all in all there were more "changes" than I was expecting. That seemed to be the biggest one. But I think Cratermaker also had a different chest/head as well.

I previously wasn't even paying attention/aware all the sports cars were different.

Indeed, some of the guys have previously unused tooling (that may see main retail release later):

- Cratermarker uses G1 Bombshock's head
- Irontread uses G1 Big Hauler's design
- Ricon uses G1 Hydraulic's design

Monster Truck Patrol's a go

Also curious is that while Cratermaker and Fireline's decos are based on Zone Autobots Powerbomb and Gunlift, they're Decepticons here. Them both using alt heads may be intended to reinforce they're different from their inspirations.

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I'm suddenly sad that Star Convoy ended up being in Selects and a retool of PotP Prime, instead of a retool of TR Prime T_T... need more base mode!

Yeah I discussed it in the Selects thread when Star Convoy was first announced. Turns out Everyone hates his bade mode though (yeah it's pretty cheesy), but still, I think it's pretty cool, you ST may be the only other one . I think some fans took PotP leader prime and tried to fabricate what they thought a base mode could be for the new Selects Star Convoy...

The Lines for 2020 and 2021 have yet to be revealed. We've been given quite a bit in Siege alone, so I have little doubt there will be many more surprises in store in the next 2 years.