The Energon Pub

[Jelze Bunnycat]

If anyone is worried about "same vehicle = same robot mode", don't. Two characters sharing the same vehicle with a different robot mode has been done before


Transformers Dark of the Moon Mudflap Gallery

[blackeyedprime]

So War for Cybertron: Siege is winding down. Which ‘bots do you wish you had seen in the line? For me, the Autobot is Sunstreaker and the Deception is Blitzwing. Sunstreaker could have easily been a slight mod to the Sideswipe mold and would have been great with his bro. Blitzwing is just a personal favorite (I got the original off the shelf) and I would have loved to see an update.

For me Blitzwings already got a decent update in TR/Legends so I'd want the other micromaster team mates doing and a return to legends class figures to finish of the minibots (but only if they are moving away from the not quite cybertronian/not quite earth alt modes).
I know Potp had inferno but hes one of the few updates that's a just a minimal effeot repaint rather than being a true visual representation of him (great for stickering up as other characters tho).

[Wolfman Jake]

Shame on you, Sabr!

[D-Maximal_Primal]

No.

[Stargrave]

No.

Stormbob Siegepants.

[Unicron Magnus]

I would legitimately buy this.

[Sabrblade]

Hey, it's not my fault Acid Storm is the exact right shade of green to function just like a green screen.


Also, not my Acid Storm, not my green screen effect, and not my pic.

[Sentinel_Primal]

I'd like to see a new Sunstreaker and Tracks. But, if we get a Wheeljack, I'd rather it have his hovervan mode from More than Meets the Eye because he's one of the few characters with an actually shown Cybertronian mode. Also about Tracks, it'd be nice to see a Generation Selects repaint into Road Rage if we get him in the next part, especially since she's appearing in the new comics

[ZeroWolf]

It'd be funnier if that picture of acid storm was teasing a release of Starscream in his animated deco

[Emerje]

So War for Cybertron: Siege is winding down. Which ‘bots do you wish you had seen in the line? For me, the Autobot is Sunstreaker and the Deception is Blitzwing. Sunstreaker could have easily been a slight mod to the Sideswipe mold and would have been great with his bro. Blitzwing is just a personal favorite (I got the original off the shelf) and I would have loved to see an update.

I mean it's got to be Wheeljack, Bumblebee, and Jazz right?





Emerje

[ZeroWolf]

Wouldn't they be shellformers like Starscream given they have to transform into cartoon accurate robot modes, with kibble reminiscent of the earth alts

[Emerje]

Wouldn't they be shellformers like Starscream given they have to transform into cartoon accurate robot modes, with kibble reminiscent of the earth alts

Yes, but also like the Seekers they can cheat as much as they want. Fake chests, legs that tuck underneath with wheels to make them look like they're hovering, the works. Wheeljack and Jazz would probably be even easier than Bee since boxy alt modes lend themselves better to robots. Just look at Ironhide with his square arms and shell legs. Bumblebee would probably have to hide a lot of stuff to his back. If his second MP can do it then a regular retail figure can do it.

Emerje

[emlit]

So War for Cybertron: Siege is winding down. Which ‘bots do you wish you had seen in the line? For me, the Autobot is Sunstreaker and the Deception is Blitzwing. Sunstreaker could have easily been a slight mod to the Sideswipe mold and would have been great with his bro. Blitzwing is just a personal favorite (I got the original off the shelf) and I would have loved to see an update.

I mean it's got to be Wheeljack, Bumblebee, and Jazz right?





Emerje

I really hope so. I’d be all over true Cybertronian alt modes. Don’t get me wrong, I love the hybrid space car/Earth vehicle modes for the Autobots, but I was really hoping for a few hovercrafts.

[Nemesis Primal]

At this point, I think the only 84-85 G1 Autobots they could do that would interest me would be Wheeljack, Whirl (especially given the Cybertronian alt modes), and possibly Jazz, Blaster, and the Omnibots (if they can make them actually look visually interesting). Other than that, they'd have to make some REALLY good looking figures to make me interested in a Tracks or a Trailbreaker or something. Also, I agree that Road Rage, Flamewar, and more non-G1 characters would be spectacular, I still want Deadlock from Springer and Demolishor from Impactor, and I want to get the Insecticons (as Deluxes), Deluxe Insecticons (as Deluxes), and Needlenose, since Spinister has proven they could show up anyway.

[AcademyofDrX]

I love the Legends-scale classic Insecticons. I think they're perfect, I don't know how they could be improved as Deluxes. Of course, I'm happy with figures that scale to each other like the toys and don't value cartoon fidelity as much as others.

I desperately want a new Generations Drift and/or Deadlock. I keep looking at the secondary market for the original, but the new Flame Toys Furai release should hold me over until we get a new one.

[ZeroWolf]

What size should the insecticons be? I didn't think they were the height of Prowl and the like. Though I think Hasbro's best bet with them is to release as a gift set

[emlit]

What size should the insecticons be? I didn't think they were the height of Prowl and the like. Though I think Hasbro's best bet with them is to release as a gift set

This.

[Stargrave]

I’d love to see them at that Prowl size but honestly, crazy thought here, if they did Micromaster Insecticons, I’d be so curious to see how they pulled it off. We got the Legends scale over the last few lines, insects are tiny, I dunno I think it’d be interesting.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

What size should the insecticons be? I didn't think they were the height of Prowl and the like. Though I think Hasbro's best bet with them is to release as a gift set

According to the official scale guides they should be roughly half of Ironhide's size. So Legends is tall enough.

[william-james88]

What size should the insecticons be? I didn't think they were the height of Prowl and the like. Though I think Hasbro's best bet with them is to release as a gift set

According to the official scale guides they should be roughly half of Ironhide's size. So Legends is tall enough.

Meaning we already have them, and we should concentrate on other characters.

[blackeyedprime]

What size should the insecticons be? I didn't think they were the height of Prowl and the like. Though I think Hasbro's best bet with them is to release as a gift set

According to the official scale guides they should be roughly half of Ironhide's size. So Legends is tall enough.

Meaning we already have them, and we should concentrate on other characters.

unless they do them leader class size and as working drones...

[ZeroWolf]

I doubt they would do them individually at leader Class. The legends ones are excellent so no point reinventing the wheel there. The deluxe ones are more open to interpretation as they never appeared on the cartoon.

This is why having kickback on that last poll was interesting

[o.supreme]

New characters definitely. I mean we got Chop Shop from Shrapnel near the end of CW some four years ago....Where are the rest of the DELUXE Insecticons? (as in what they were originally called, not to be confused with the size class of the same name).

Also Considering the fact that 3 of those 4 poll entries have been released as Legends Class (or comparable) recently. I have a feeling the new Runamuck will herald in the return of this size class for the 2020 line as well (as would Needlenose have been if he won) I mean, was there any indication as to the size class of the entries in this poll? I assumed Legends based on the entries.

[Nemesis Primal]

How does one delete a post, exactly?

[Nemesis Primal]

Meaning we already have them, and we should concentrate on other characters.

This is why having kickback Shrapnel on that last poll was interesting

Well, given the inclusion of Shrapnel on the fan poll, Hasbro clearly disagrees that the Insecticons are taken care of, and is thinking of making a new set of them.

Besides, there are multiple reasons to justify new Insecticons:
Articulation: The level of articulation we're getting on this WFC figures gives them around twice as many points of articulation as a Legends figure (using Ironhide vs Chop Shop as my comparison, I could be wrong depending on the figures), so that would be a welcome improvement.
Popularity: Clearly Hasbro is trying to seed popular/recognizable characters into WFC retail along with the Cogs and the Apefaces and such, and the Insecticons are some of the only G1 Cons left that we didn't get in Siege who are recognizable to a casual-ish audience.
Accessories: Because of the Legends price point, none of the Insecticons got any accessories before, save the T30 release of Shrapnel. Making them at around Refraktor's size would allow for Bombshell, for example, to have his beetle-nose gun, his actual handheld weapon, and possibly if we're lucky, a blast effect compatible cerebro-shell (although they'd probably save that for an exclusive).
The Size Arguement: While the cartoon size chart puts them at Legends size (which I personally don't think should be right, but that's not the point), one also has to remember that the Insecticons were canonically shown to get bigger the more energy they were able to obtain/consume. That means built-in justification for selling bigger figures of them regardless of that scale, just say they're powered up to be more threatening, or that they had more easy access to Energon while on Cybertron on the winning side of the conflict.
Remolds: Depending on the remolding they're willing to do, they could easily get both an Insecticon and a Deluxe Insecticon each from each of the molds, as multiple site users have argued before.

Also Considering the fact that 3 of those 4 poll entries have been released as Legends Class (or comparable) recently. I have a feeling the new Runamuck will herald in the return of this size class for the 2020 line as well (as would Needlenose have been if he won) I mean, was there any indication as to the size class of the entries in this poll? I assumed Legends based on the entries.

I still don't buy into this theory of yours, because why would they make new molds of the same characters in the same size class that we just got in Prime Wars (or as a Takara exclusive, in Runamuck's case)? They confirmed at SDCC that they are new molds, because Warden mentioned accounting for Runamuck having all his wheels end up on his feet. Plus, Quake and Spinister are already Deluxes, having Needlenose be as size class smaller than his partners would make no sense, and Needlenose was also in the running to get a figure IN SIEGE from that poll, so they should already have a Deluxe-sized mold for him in the works that would have been released had he won his second poll because Siege has no Legends class.