I don't call the black splotches (which at the same time aren't quite splotchy enough) an improvement
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Rodimus Prime wrote:Okay I admit I'm being salty about Jetfire. But it's because I was looking forward to him quite a bit and I got a borderline cyberverse figure.
"borderline cyberverse"? That, my good sir, is going too far and veering into the ridiculous. There is simply too much intricacy in the transformation for that to be an apt comparison, and too much articulation in robot mode as well.
Cyberverse figures don't have folding nosecones like his, they don't have chest intakes that pivot 90 degrees and then swing around into robot mode position, they don't have wings that fold up on themseslves to protrude less in robot mode, they don't have the ends of booster engines unfolding from their tidy hiding places in the legs to connect to the rest of the engines, they don't have deployable handles for smaller figures to hang onto (at least, as far as I've seen). Cyberverse figures, even the large ones, don't have articulated hands that retract the 5mm port for better looks when opened, they don't have a full range of motion in all limbs as well as a a waist swivel, a neck tilt, and ankle tilts... Really, the additional armor is the only comparable thing
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Rodimus Prime wrote:To me, basically he's an oversized KO of a deluxe figure.
That's considerably less ridiculous than calling him "Borderline Cyberverse", but IMO he still has too many moving parts in his transformation for it to be fair, plus he has a lot of features (like the ability to tuck the hands into the arms without having to leave an exposed gap) that are too far beyond the average Deluxe. You wanna talk OSKO, I refer you again to Supreme-class Starscream. Which is still a fun toy, but
man is it irritating that HasTak pretty much just straight-up upsizing the Voyager and doing
nothing to improve the arm articulation.
Rodimus Prime wrote:The only way he looks good to me is in jet mode from overhead. He just has too many unjustified gaps in his jet mode for such an expensive figure. The robot mode looks better, but again, for that price, he's not good enough.
Here's your justification for those gaps (by which if memory serves, you are chiefly talking about the view of his shoulder balls in jet mode): Not much of a good place to stash the panels that would cover them in robot mode, plus they decided to splurge more on the accessories front (accessories inspired by the Valkyrie). And the robot mode has a full, functional articulation scheme (including the aforementioned articulated hands) as well as snap-on armor, and has that level of engineering while still being on par mass-wise with figures the same size from 15 years ago. They're called
size classes for a reason
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Now, if on the other hand he was a featherweight like T30 and
Prime Wars Leaders are,
then I'd be ticked about the price... But he's not.
Rodimus Prime wrote:The T30 figure looks sharper paint-wise and even though his jet mode isn't accurate it's still a better value for the price. I know a lot of you will disagree and that's fine. Remember, this is just an opinion, don't lose your mind over it.
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I disagree with you about his jet mode being better value. Accuracy has nothing to do with it, it's
the unjustified lack of integration. Very little of his robot body seems to make up any part of the jet mode, and for no good reason. Would you consider Earthrise Arcee to be more value for money than T30 or
Animated Arcee?
Frankly, I think T30 Leader Jetfire can go kiss the Classics Voyager's skidplate. That one uses a hybrid design to preserve the Valkyrie influence as best it can without sacrificing an integrated transformation, and has the added bonus of the boosters (which point up over his shoulders in robot mode like they should on a Valkyrie) containing deployable cannons.