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News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:13 pm

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, I think he brought up MPs because on the whole they go for more complexity than mainline non-Bayformer toys.

Depending on what mainline.
Vietnam-like flashbacks about Revenge of the Fallen.

I could finally try out Siege Starscream. At first, I was dismissive of the toy for being a shellformer with a bot folded underneath. But then, I was impressed by the clever tricks this thing does. Most impressive being the spring-loaded leg fillers that they added instead of leaving the back hollow. there there the long nosecone of the ship that cleverly become the iconic shoulder pilons. Only flaw is that annoying detachable chest part.

Overall, Siege Starscream is a must for any seeker fan! Looking forward Thundercracker.

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:16 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, I think he brought up MPs because on the whole they go for more complexity than mainline non-Bayformer toys.

Depending on what mainline.
Vietnam-like flashbacks about Revenge of the Fallen.

There's a reason I specified non-Bayformer

News Credits: 4836 · by **william-james88** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:17 pm

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
william-james88 wrote:The correlation isn't even there with MPs, with BW Megatron being even simpler than cheetor.

Well, I think he brought up MPs because on the whole they go for more complexity than mainline non-Bayformer toys.

Oh right, I get it now. Like wanting more complexity period, regardless of size. I can see that and I agree with it. We do have some gems in the mainlines though, like both Siege Prime and Studio Series Bumblebee Prime are rather impressive in terms of their complexity for the price you are paying.

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:23 pm

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, I think he brought up MPs because on the whole they go for more complexity than mainline non-Bayformer toys.

Depending on what mainline.
Vietnam-like flashbacks about Revenge of the Fallen.

There's a reason I specified non-Bayformer

*HAVE YOU BEEN THERE, MAN, THE PANELS,THE PINS, THE ORIGAMI FOLDING, I SEE THEM STILL ARRRRRG!!!* :-(

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Well, I'll raise you the Alternator / Alternity lines. Both traditional designs, yet pretty tricky transformations.

News Credits: 340 · by **Stargrave** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:27 pm

I just found this and if anyone with 3 Refraktors could somehow duplicate this once they get their Thundercracker oh it’d be a hoot:

Transformers G1 1986 Reflector Gallery

Maybe with CW Thundercracker? :lol:

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:34 pm

Stargrave wrote:I just found this and if anyone with 3 Refraktors could somehow duplicate this once they get their Thundercracker oh it’d be a hoot:

Transformers G1 1986 Reflector Gallery

Maybe with CW Thundercracker?

Well, since Siege Reflector is on a Tripod, one could use any Thundercracker...

*Classics TC*

*sets reminder*

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:42 pm

Tempted to use Cybertron Thundercracker (wrong series entirely, I know) when I get to that point, just for laughs

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:41 pm

Generations Legends class Targetmaster Reflector (the one that came with Skrapnel) also works quite well with MP Thundercracker.

by **Blastback** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:34 pm

Damn it hasbro, I don't have the money for all ofthis! loving siege so much. Toys have been great.

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:38 pm

Blastback wrote:Damn it hasbro, I don't have the money for all ofthis! loving siege so much. Toys have been great.

You can say that again!
I've yet to find a single stinker in the whole line.

Also, I played with Soundwave and his minions for the first time and they are AMAZING! Sure, they are more expensive now, but the details and paint are Takara Henkei levels. I'm pretty glad that we no longer have to import the "superior" Takara versions.

by **Skritz** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:03 pm

I hope the Hot Shot one is true because then I'd be able to add an Hot Shot to my collection with a design that is radically different from Bumblebee, who he replaced (well, he also replaced Cheetor and Hot Rod too!) at a time and latter got replaced by.

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:33 pm

Skritz wrote:I hope the Hot Shot one is true because then I'd be able to add an Hot Shot to my collection with a design that is radically different from Bumblebee, who he replaced (well, he also replaced Cheetor and Hot Rod too!) at a time and latter got replaced by.

The original Cybertron Defense Hot Shot isn't too bad on eBay, although it can be hard to find one that has both gunbarrel tips and both bumper pieces. Especially the barrel tips.

Now to attend to another matter... Everybody, please repeat after me:

SIEGE Starscream is not getting a chest pin.
SIEGE Starscream is not getting a chest pin.
SIEGE Starscream is not getting a chest pin.
SIEGE Starscream is not getting a chest pin.
SIEGE Starscream is not getting a chest pin.
SIEGE Starscream is not getting a chest pin.
SIEGE Starscream is not getting a chest pin.
SIEGE Starscream is not getting a chest pin.
SIEGE Starscream is not getting a chest pin.
SIEGE Starscream is not getting a chest pin.
SIEGE Starscream is not getting a chest pin.
SIEGE Starscream is not getting a chest pin.
SIEGE Starscream is not getting a chest pin.
SIEGE Starscream is not getting a chest pin.

by **Skritz** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:28 pm

Meh. Its not like it doesn't just pop back on or anything..

by **Jeddostotle7** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:39 pm

Skritz wrote:I hope the Hot Shot one is true because then I'd be able to add an Hot Shot to my collection with a design that is radically different from Bumblebee, who he replaced (well, he also replaced Cheetor and Hot Rod too!) at a time and latter got replaced by.

I've known about the Hot Shot speculation ever since Hound's box art with Hot Shot's head was revealed, but I only now really thought about what the Siege Hound mold would look like in Cybertron Hot Shot's colors, and now I am HYPE for it. I cannot wait for it to be revealed.

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:57 pm

Skritz wrote:Meh. Its not like it doesn't just pop back on or anything..

I know. I'm just trying to grind the rumor of him getting one into the dirt hard enough that people who only skim things won't ignorantly revive it.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:00 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:I've yet to find a single stinker in the whole line.

Voyager Megatron and the Laserbeak/Ravage set were underwhelming for me. Not so much Laserbeak, but I think Ravage is way off the mark.

News Credits: 372 · by **Cyberpath** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:12 am

Hey, so I was thinking, there are two Autobot Weaponizers and one Decepticon. HasTak could make another Decepticon with Torq III's face and colours. As far as I know there are no figures representing him. And the machines he utilised in the episode kind of remind me of the stuff you can build from the Weaponizers.

by **ThunderThruster** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:37 am

Torq III's a bit niche, especially when we could be getting a Weaponiser Fasttrack.

News Credits: 372 · by **Cyberpath** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:57 am

ThunderThruster wrote:Torq III's a bit niche, especially when we could be getting a Weaponiser Fasttrack.

Because all the Weaponizers so far have been inspired by iconic characters? :))

That's part of the fun with these things imo.

(But yeah, I get that they're making them based on parts from the City bots.)

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:11 pm

So, someone's scooped up all the Refraktors in the Knoxville area (and going by the number of Hounds it was a LOT of Refraktors), but I did get Brunt yesterday. Have been a tad disappointed, largely because his head broke the first time I transformed him.

News Credits: 56 · by **Nathaniel Prime** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:43 pm

Skritz wrote:Meh. Its not like it doesn't just pop back on or anything..

Besides, it looks like they improved the subsequent releases of the mold. Red Wind and Thundercracker have much tighter and secure chest plates. Source is from a friend who has both.

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:46 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:I've yet to find a single stinker in the whole line.
Voyager Megatron and the Laserbeak/Ravage set were underwhelming for me. Not so much Laserbeak, but I think Ravage is way off the mark.

True that Megatron is not that great, but is no way a "bad" toy. Ravage only need a tail to be perfect. Other than that, I'm blown away by the line so far. The Minions are super nice and well worth the full price.

Starscream is amazing. It's only flaw is that the chest part dont have a pin. There. I said it. That chest part is a partformer piece that will go all "G1 Doubledealer" in the future. Still, Starscream is overall way too good for that chest piece to be a dealbreaker.

Soundwave is also amazing. The ship is simple yet clever. My only complains for him is the hollow forearms in bot mode. Plus the useless extra gray gun. Why that gun? They could have used that plastic budjet for forearms panels. Still, that Soundwave kick major ass.

News Credits: 2 · by **Microbot** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:58 pm

I like the idea of Hotshot, don't understand why to repaint another Impactor...into impactor!.....A new full camera from Refraktor? I'm not sure about this...I mena....if they get all the same colors of G1 toy...no thanks... More curious about the new the name of the next line of figures in the Generations War For Cybertron line. New Titan Class figure revealed. New Commander Class reveal, and new Leader Class reveal. This is hinted to be a car or armored car.

by **ThunderThruster** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:20 pm

Cyberpath wrote:
ThunderThruster wrote:Torq III's a bit niche, especially when we could be getting a Weaponiser Fasttrack.

Because all the Weaponizers so far have been inspired by iconic characters?

That's part of the fun with these things imo.

(But yeah, I get that they're making them based on parts from the City bots.)

Iconic? That really rules out Tor III then. And Brunt is iconic now because of his Siege figure. Fasttack, who already has a bot-mode (unlike G1 Brunt!), is more than deserving of the weaponiser treatment.

by **Vic Zanzibar** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:48 pm

I was gonna skip the Siege Seekers; heck, I just got Generations Thrust to complete my collection of all seven mass market Classics mold Seekers; but I don't know now. I assumed from the start of Siege that we wouldn't be getting the Coneheads since Hasbro releasing the same Voyager mold six times seemed unlikely, but if we do indeed end up getting FOUR of the esoteric background characters as repaints alongside the original trio, the Coneheads don't actually seem all that unlikely. For those who have the mold, would it be feasible to remold it with a Conehead head?