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Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby blackeyedprime » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:02 am

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I wonder... Will there be a load of fussing about Omega Supreme not having a motorized walking gimmick like there was with Titans Return Trypticon?
There already has been.

Color me unsurprised. :roll:



Same with siege ultra magnus seeing as the g1 toy was motorised in stranger things...

Shouldn't be too hard to stick an obvious motor onto omega. I'm still tempted to find a year of the snake omega to have him as the titan master version/display with them. Siege omega is likely to be displayed next to MPs.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:04 am

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Motorization and ratcheted articulated legs don't get along.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:09 am

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I wonder... Will there be a load of fussing about Omega Supreme not having a motorized walking gimmick like there was with Titans Return Trypticon?
There already has been.

Color me unsurprised. :roll:
I know, right? A toy that we get to actually play with ourselves instead of the toy doing the play work by itself. Imagine that.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:46 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I wonder... Will there be a load of fussing about Omega Supreme not having a motorized walking gimmick like there was with Titans Return Trypticon?
There already has been.

Color me unsurprised. :roll:
I know, right? A toy that we get to actually play with ourselves instead of the toy doing the play work by itself. Imagine that.

I mean, I can see the argument for wanting motors for display. That said, motorized toys seem to hate me so I'm glad that Omega doesn't have any motorized gimmicks :lol:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:51 am

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I wonder... Will there be a load of fussing about Omega Supreme not having a motorized walking gimmick like there was with Titans Return Trypticon?
There already has been.

Color me unsurprised. :roll:
I know, right? A toy that we get to actually play with ourselves instead of the toy doing the play work by itself. Imagine that.

I mean, I can see the argument for wanting motors for display. That said, motorized toys seem to hate me so I'm glad that Omega doesn't have any motorized gimmicks :lol:
Thing is, the arguments against the lack of a motorized gimmick basically boil down to "You mean I have to actually push Omega's tank on his track by myself? I'm a grown man! I'd look so silly doing that! I want my toys to play out their features FOR me, not have ME play with them myself!" >:oP

At that point, I question why folks like that are even on a children's toy forum or even collecting children's toys that they swear are not for kids and are "grownup stuff, darn it!" :roll:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:53 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I wonder... Will there be a load of fussing about Omega Supreme not having a motorized walking gimmick like there was with Titans Return Trypticon?
There already has been.

Color me unsurprised. :roll:
I know, right? A toy that we get to actually play with ourselves instead of the toy doing the play work by itself. Imagine that.

I mean, I can see the argument for wanting motors for display. That said, motorized toys seem to hate me so I'm glad that Omega doesn't have any motorized gimmicks :lol:
Thing is, the arguments against the lack of a motorized gimmick basically boil down to "You mean I have to actually push Omega's tank on his track by myself? I'm a grown man! I'd look so silly doing that! I want my toys to play out their features FOR me, not have ME play with them myself!" >:oP

True. I was just meaning I can see the argument for just having the tank going around on the track while it's on display and not actually being played with
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby blackeyedprime » Sun Jun 23, 2019 6:43 am

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Having to push it around like a neanderthal is so uncool tho. Imagine all those horror movies where the train or toy goes around the track with no electricity on and what they would look like being pushed around. That and todays praised intricacies of sculpting and a toy not being able to do what it did originally. Evolution will make g1 toys look like the stone circle and we will be wondering how they achieved stuff like die cast metal :p
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:25 am

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:05 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:20 pm

Original IDW is over and Hasbro turned the page on that chapter. The odds of getting an IDW 2005-only character are basically 0% right now. Give it to 10-15 years for nostalgia to set in and get maybe a single figure in whatever Generations will have become by that point.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:29 pm

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Skritz wrote:Original IDW is over and Hasbro turned the page on that chapter. The odds of getting an IDW 2005-only character are basically 0% right now. Give it to 10-15 years for nostalgia to set in and get maybe a single figure in whatever Generations will have become by that point.
Though, Nautica did get carried over into the new comics, but yeah, that was on IDW's part rather than Hasbro's, so another toy of her isn't likely either.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:32 pm

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Skritz wrote:Original IDW is over and Hasbro turned the page on that chapter. The odds of getting an IDW 2005-only character are basically 0% right now. Give it to 10-15 years for nostalgia to set in and get maybe a single figure in whatever Generations will have become by that point.
Though, Nautica did get carried over into the new comics, but yeah, that was on IDW's part rather than Hasbro's, so another toy of her isn't likely either.

I wouldn't say that, now that we have selects we can get more niche characters, just need some patience for the line to get broken in
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:34 pm

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IDW 1.0 over or not there’s only so many Titans to go around. It’d just be cool to see them take an opportunity to do something new and fresh with the scale. I would love to see Chela in a base mode and that Caminus spacefaring mode is so slick.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:44 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
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Skritz wrote:Original IDW is over and Hasbro turned the page on that chapter. The odds of getting an IDW 2005-only character are basically 0% right now. Give it to 10-15 years for nostalgia to set in and get maybe a single figure in whatever Generations will have become by that point.
Though, Nautica did get carried over into the new comics, but yeah, that was on IDW's part rather than Hasbro's, so another toy of her isn't likely either.

I wouldn't say that, now that we have selects we can get more niche characters, just need some patience for the line to get broken in
What I mean is, her presence in the new comics isn't tied to any forthcoming Hasbro toy, as her design was a product of the artist making it up from aspects of both her IDW1 design and her Titans Return toy.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AcademyofDrX » Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:08 pm

00Stargrave00 wrote:IDW 1.0 over or not there’s only so many Titans to go around. It’d just be cool to see them take an opportunity to do something new and fresh with the scale. I would love to see Chela in a base mode and that Caminus spacefaring mode is so slick.
[emphasis added]

Metroplex last came out in 2013, not counting the overpriced limited run Tamara reissue last year. It goes for around $500 on the secondary market. I can't be alone in wanting a Metroplex reissue or even a new mold before going to the deep bench.

I frequently see comments like, "We already got X, make a SG version of some obscure Japanese character instead!" I mean, not all of us "got" all those guys the first time around. I've only begun collecting again since Titans Return, but I'm in deep now.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:37 pm

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AcademyofDrX wrote:
00Stargrave00 wrote:IDW 1.0 over or not there’s only so many Titans to go around. It’d just be cool to see them take an opportunity to do something new and fresh with the scale. I would love to see Chela in a base mode and that Caminus spacefaring mode is so slick.
[emphasis added]

Metroplex last came out in 2013, not counting the overpriced limited run Tamara reissue last year. It goes for around $500 on the secondary market. I can't be alone in wanting a Metroplex reissue or even a new mold before going to the deep bench.

I frequently see comments like, "We already got X, make a SG version of some obscure Japanese character instead!" I mean, not all of us "got" all those guys the first time around. I've only begun collecting again since Titans Return, but I'm in deep now.

While you do make a good point (I.e. The availability of the older Titans) its a tightrope act for Hasbro as they have to balance the wants of the collectors who they know will already have the character, the wants of the newer collectors/collectors who missed the first time, and of course kids who just want kick ass toys.

Personally I'd rather new over old as there's only so many times you can do the old characters
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:11 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:
00Stargrave00 wrote:IDW 1.0 over or not there’s only so many Titans to go around. It’d just be cool to see them take an opportunity to do something new and fresh with the scale. I would love to see Chela in a base mode and that Caminus spacefaring mode is so slick.
[emphasis added]

Metroplex last came out in 2013, not counting the overpriced limited run Tamara reissue last year. It goes for around $500 on the secondary market. I can't be alone in wanting a Metroplex reissue or even a new mold before going to the deep bench.

I frequently see comments like, "We already got X, make a SG version of some obscure Japanese character instead!" I mean, not all of us "got" all those guys the first time around. I've only begun collecting again since Titans Return, but I'm in deep now.

While you do make a good point (I.e. The availability of the older Titans) its a tightrope act for Hasbro as they have to balance the wants of the collectors who they know will already have the character, the wants of the newer collectors/collectors who missed the first time, and of course kids who just want kick ass toys.

Personally I'd rather new over old as there's only so many times you can do the old characters


From what I gather, Hasbro is trying to find the sweet spot between reinterpreting the old while introducing the new or obscure in a similar style. It's working pretty well if Prime Wars was anything to go by.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:52 pm

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The thing about Titan-class toys is their sheer size makes them rather expensive in terms of both development and materials costs, and gives them a correspondingly huge price tag for buyers. HasTak would have to be preeetty sure of demand before committing to making a new mold (or even a heavy retool) for one of the IDW-original Titans. The most likely one of those to be done IMO would be Quintessa (probably in his in Necrotitan colors), since he A. had a major role and B. could be done as a redeco of Metroplex. But even then there would almost certainly be an "(X) Preorders Required" threshold needed to get him green-lit. I mean, they did that for LGEX Grand Maximus and he was a significant show character!
I would personally prefer Metrotitan to Quintessa, though, and think he's probably more likely. And hey, while Metrotitan isn't an IDW-original he is one of the major Titans in the IDW storyline (heck, he got a bigger role there than he did in the Zone stuff he originates from). Even if he wound up with the wrong colors in the comics.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:54 pm

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Skritz wrote:Original IDW is over and Hasbro turned the page on that chapter. The odds of getting an IDW 2005-only character are basically 0% right now. Give it to 10-15 years for nostalgia to set in and get maybe a single figure in whatever Generations will have become by that point.


I used to think that till I found out Siege Brunt is based on the 2005 IDW Centurion Droid design

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:00 pm

Brunt is a weird case because he had no robot mode so maybe Hasbro just went around fishing for old, unused designs until they found one they liked.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SGMLordMirage » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:04 pm

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So I thought I had hit the jack pot, having spotted Siege Springer at a Target just outside Greensboro, NC. When I went to checkout, it stated that I could not purchase the item. After having a manger came to my aid, they stated that it could not be sold until later in July. Apparently it was put out on the shelf by mistake, right! :-( :-( :-(
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:10 pm

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What I've noticed is that if you see the new Wave 3 guys at Target, Target blocks the buy and enforces the street date. Walmart doesn't care, it's ready to go there.
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Transformers War for Cybertron Siege Leader Class Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime Found in the UK

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:14 pm

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For all you UK Seibertronians, I bring you great hunting news. The newest Leader Class release for Transformers War for Cybertron Siege has been found in two different Symths Toy Stores!

Fellow Seibertron user, CyclonusG1, found and purchased his from the Longton Symths store in London. He even provided the picture of his purchase.

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The second toy was found in the Northampton Symths Toy Store by fellow Seibertron user, Crumplezone.

The Leader Class Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime is a retool of Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus, designed to represent a new version of the original Leader Class Optimus Prime from the Cybertron toyline and cartoon.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SGMLordMirage » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:46 pm

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@ D-Max, thanks, I’m definitely thinking that way in regards with Target versus Walmart. Definitely sucks!
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:59 pm

Motto: "It’s all the in the reflexes"
Weapon: Glass Gas Gun
We talk a good bit about almost everything in this line except the cool fire last effects: has anyone been having a “blast” with these? No, I couldn’t help myself.

They’re great on the weapons but does anyone have them displayed with the effects acting as blaster damage?

For me it was fun for a few but quickly lost its magic. I don’t really mind the extra plugs all over but I’d be fine if they phased the ‘damage’ plugs out.
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