Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jeddostotle7 » Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:43 am

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Re: the streetdate thing.. Contact Target about it on Twitter and Hasbro about it via their website.


No response they might realistically give will give me what I actually want, which is to be able to buy Springer from them right now. Plus, there's a likelyhood they'd reprimand or punish the employees at that store, and I don't want anyone there to be punished for such a small mistake as accidentally putting something on the shelf that shouldn't have been yet.

You could at least get an answer from Hasbro as to why the streetdate is even there in the first place, and an answer from Target as to why they're abiding by it when their biggest competitor isn't. Don't want to get someone in trouble? Just tell Target you've heard this is happening, don't name the specific store or anything.


Given how many people have experienced the streetdate problem, I'd be surprised if someone hasn't already tried to contact Hasbro or Target about it, and given that we haven't gotten word of an explanation for the streetdate, I'm guessing the answer wasn't really clear or meaningful. Plus, contacting customer service of any kind is incredibly draining for me. I'll just wait for the streetdate to pass or get Springer online.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby RodimusConvoy13 » Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:22 am

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Jeddostotle7 wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Jeddostotle7 wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Re: the streetdate thing.. Contact Target about it on Twitter and Hasbro about it via their website.


No response they might realistically give will give me what I actually want, which is to be able to buy Springer from them right now. Plus, there's a likelyhood they'd reprimand or punish the employees at that store, and I don't want anyone there to be punished for such a small mistake as accidentally putting something on the shelf that shouldn't have been yet.

You could at least get an answer from Hasbro as to why the streetdate is even there in the first place, and an answer from Target as to why they're abiding by it when their biggest competitor isn't. Don't want to get someone in trouble? Just tell Target you've heard this is happening, don't name the specific store or anything.


Given how many people have experienced the streetdate problem, I'd be surprised if someone hasn't already tried to contact Hasbro or Target about it, and given that we haven't gotten word of an explanation for the streetdate, I'm guessing the answer wasn't really clear or meaningful. Plus, contacting customer service of any kind is incredibly draining for me. I'll just wait for the streetdate to pass or get Springer online.



Self check-out is your friend. Take Springer and another voyager up to self checkout. Scan the other voyager, put springer in your bag. Now you have a springer
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jeddostotle7 » Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:39 am

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RodimusConvoy13 wrote:
Jeddostotle7 wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Jeddostotle7 wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Re: the streetdate thing.. Contact Target about it on Twitter and Hasbro about it via their website.


No response they might realistically give will give me what I actually want, which is to be able to buy Springer from them right now. Plus, there's a likelyhood they'd reprimand or punish the employees at that store, and I don't want anyone there to be punished for such a small mistake as accidentally putting something on the shelf that shouldn't have been yet.

You could at least get an answer from Hasbro as to why the streetdate is even there in the first place, and an answer from Target as to why they're abiding by it when their biggest competitor isn't. Don't want to get someone in trouble? Just tell Target you've heard this is happening, don't name the specific store or anything.


Given how many people have experienced the streetdate problem, I'd be surprised if someone hasn't already tried to contact Hasbro or Target about it, and given that we haven't gotten word of an explanation for the streetdate, I'm guessing the answer wasn't really clear or meaningful. Plus, contacting customer service of any kind is incredibly draining for me. I'll just wait for the streetdate to pass or get Springer online.



Self check-out is your friend. Take Springer and another voyager up to self checkout. Scan the other voyager, put springer in your bag. Now you have a springer


Well, at this point they'll have taken the Springers back off the shelf, but I'll keep that in mind for next time, even if it does feel a bit sneaky (not in terms of how I personally feel about it, but in terms of how it might seem to people watching).
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:12 am

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If the news about Omega Supreme is true, I'm perfectly fine with the delay. Imagine if Trypticon had been delayed a couple of months, all the defects upon release could possibly have been fixed (although I apparently got a later production run that didn't have any of the flaws.... ;) ). As we have seen, since many are so outspoken about QC issues including MYSELF (especially with the issues I had with selects), I'm more than OK with this.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby RodimusConvoy13 » Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:20 am

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Woohoo! My Jetfire is out for delivery!!!!
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:14 am

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RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Woohoo! My Jetfire is out for delivery!!!!

Yeah, mine is too, should be getting him and springer today; got my redwing on Wednesday :KREMZEEK:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby RodimusConvoy13 » Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:11 am

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My local Target in Ann Arbor, MI had Battle Masters on clearance for $2.98.
Meijer had them on clearance for $4.19 and Micromasters for $6.99.

Was surprised to see this. I picked up one more each of Firedrive and Blowpipe just for the blast effects.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Short Circuit » Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:23 pm

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I got Jetfire in and man, Commander class feels like the old surpreme class! I felt like a kid opening his armada Unicron again. He's nice and hefty. Totally met my expectations. I love that he can fit 2-3 titan masters and the fireblast effects look great as he towers over the 84 cast.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby RodimusConvoy13 » Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:31 pm

Motto: "Well, when I see five weirdos dressed in togas, stabbing a man in the middle of the park in full view of a hundred people, I shoot the bastards! That's MY policy!"
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Short Circuit wrote:I got Jetfire in and man, Commander class feels like the old surpreme class! I felt like a kid opening his armada Unicron again. He's nice and hefty. Totally met my expectations. I love that he can fit 2-3 titan masters and the fireblast effects look great as he towers over the 84 cast.


Mine is at home right now waiting for me. Where else can you put the titan masters besides the cockpit?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:33 pm

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RodimusConvoy13 wrote:My local Target in Ann Arbor, MI had Battle Masters on clearance for $2.98.
Meijer had them on clearance for $4.19 and Micromasters for $6.99.

Was surprised to see this. I picked up one more each of Firedrive and Blowpipe just for the blast effects.

can confirm for meijer, just got the rescue patrol and a spare pteraxadon on clearance
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Short Circuit » Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:42 pm

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Mine is at home right now waiting for me. Where else can you put the titan masters besides the cockpit?


The rear cockpit/fastpack has two slots that look like they can accommodate titan masters (possibly depending on their head mode sculpt) in Jet mode. If you pull up on the backpack like you do for transformation you can place them in.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby RodimusConvoy13 » Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:43 pm

Motto: "Well, when I see five weirdos dressed in togas, stabbing a man in the middle of the park in full view of a hundred people, I shoot the bastards! That's MY policy!"
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Short Circuit wrote:
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:
Mine is at home right now waiting for me. Where else can you put the titan masters besides the cockpit?


The rear cockpit/fastpack has two slots that look like they can accommodate titan masters (possibly depending on their head mode sculpt) in Jet mode. If you pull up on the backpack like you do for transformation you can place them in.


That's awesome! I can't wait to get home!
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Short Circuit » Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:09 pm

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Glad I could share! I was surprised when I saw them but totally makes sense for that area. I thought all his Easter eggs were documented!
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby jntempl » Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:38 pm

Remember in the animated movie that there was some discussion of who was reformatted by unicorn into scourge, cyclonus, and the sweeps...Does fracas being paired in this set with skywarp have anything with to do with him becoming scourge in the movie? Just a coincidence, or is Hasbro just "toying" with us...pun was intended :D
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:06 pm

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jntempl wrote:Remember in the animated movie that there was some discussion of who was reformatted by unicorn into scourge, cyclonus, and the sweeps...Does fracas being paired in this set with skywarp have anything with to do with him becoming scourge in the movie? Just a coincidence, or is Hasbro just "toying" with us...pun was intended :D

It's unrelated. And the argument was over whether it was Skywarp or Bombshell who became Cyclonus.

Besides, that's not really Fracas in the Phantomstrike set. It's Premium Firedrive. It was supposed to be something of a Fracas, looking at the back of the box, but the dinks at HasTak botched it. :roll: #-o :-x Everybody should complain to both Hasbro and Amazon - and probably cancel their order if they've ordered it.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Short Circuit » Fri Jul 05, 2019 3:38 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Besides, that's not really Fracas in the Phantomstrike set. It's Premium Firedrive. It was supposed to be something of a Fracas, looking at the back of the box, but the dinks at HasTak botched it.


I think either they wanted to paint him, and realized it was unpaintable, or something happened with the tooling where black wouldn't work QC wise. Nothing some black plastic dye can't fix. Plus we can keep his arms grey for toy accuracy.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:05 pm

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jntempl wrote:Remember in the animated movie that there was some discussion of who was reformatted by unicorn into scourge, cyclonus, and the sweeps...Does fracas being paired in this set with skywarp have anything with to do with him becoming scourge in the movie? Just a coincidence, or is Hasbro just "toying" with us...pun was intended :D

Besides, that's not really Fracas in the Phantomstrike set. It's Premium Firedrive. It was supposed to be something of a Fracas, looking at the back of the box, but the dinks at HasTak botched it. :roll: #-o :-x Everybody should complain to both Hasbro and Amazon - and probably cancel their order if they've ordered it.

Personally, I actually like the look and plan to use the Fracas in that set for Counterpunch and maybe pick up an extra Firedrive for Punch for a little nod to Sideways from the UT
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:12 pm

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Short Circuit wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Besides, that's not really Fracas in the Phantomstrike set. It's Premium Firedrive. It was supposed to be something of a Fracas, looking at the back of the box, but the dinks at HasTak botched it.


I think either they wanted to paint him, and realized it was unpaintable, or something happened with the tooling where black wouldn't work QC wise. Nothing some black plastic dye can't fix. Plus we can keep his arms grey for toy accuracy.

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Wowww. #-o :evil:
1. Black plastic dye won't fix the BLACK HEAD AND BODY. :roll: :-x
2. The plastic is not likely unpaintable.
3. You're talking out your aft with the "maybe black plastic wouldn't work QC wise" thing. Like, what kind of logic led you to that conclusion? Especially since it's not the body - you know, the part that has the potentially-delicate ball joints and which was black on Firedrive - that was supposed to be black.
4. It's much more likely that they simply, y'know, got the gray and blackplastics switched when they loaded the injectors.

This is what Fracas' original toy looked like:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:18 pm

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Just got into my springer, and my god, what an awful figure, such a needlessly, idiotic, overwrought design; gonna have to sit down with some videos and see what I’m doing wrong cuz the directions weren’t made to handle cuddly designs like his >:oP
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:27 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:Just got into my springer, and my god, what an awful figure, such a needlessly, idiotic, overwrought design; gonna have to sit down with some videos and see what I’m doing wrong cuz the directions weren’t made to handle cuddly designs like his >:oP


The instructions of a mini bot nowadays are really hard to understand, so I don't think they would get any better with a Voyager triplechanger.

Anything in particular you don't like about the figure?(Besides the obvious Crayola colors and GEEWUN)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:49 pm

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Nathaniel Prime wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:Just got into my springer, and my god, what an awful figure, such a needlessly, idiotic, overwrought design; gonna have to sit down with some videos and see what I’m doing wrong cuz the directions weren’t made to handle cuddly designs like his >:oP


The instructions of a mini bot nowadays are really hard to understand, so I don't think they would get any better with a Voyager triplechanger.

Anything in particular you don't like about the figure?(Besides the obvious Crayola colors and GEEWUN)

It’s overly fiddly to the point of irritation to try and get everything lined up for one mode, the latch’s that are supposed to hold him together in a vehicle mode just don’t line up or don’t take, and I just don’t see how this is better than the gen version we got a few years back which had character, and was way more concise with its transformation
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Short Circuit » Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:50 pm

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I’m sorry. I think I was thinking of Nightstick. I see what you mean now. :(
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:51 pm

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Now on the other hand, I got to spend some time with jetfire, and other than being, just everything in a toy; I discovered that he came with no screws in his left forearm :BANG_HEAD:

So if anyone can tell me if I can source them at a Home Depot, that’d be great :HEADHURTS:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:00 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:Now on the other hand, I got to spend some time with jetfire, and other than being, just everything in a toy; I discovered that he came with no screws in his left forearm :BANG_HEAD:

So if anyone can tell me if I can source them at a Home Depot, that’d be great :HEADHURTS:

Sorry to hear that, sounds counterproductive but unscrew the right forearm screws so you know what size you need. I can't see you being unable to get any.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:27 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
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Hellscream9999 wrote:Just got into my springer, and my god, what an awful figure, such a needlessly, idiotic, overwrought design; gonna have to sit down with some videos and see what I’m doing wrong cuz the directions weren’t made to handle cuddly designs like his >:oP


The instructions of a mini bot nowadays are really hard to understand, so I don't think they would get any better with a Voyager triplechanger.

Anything in particular you don't like about the figure?(Besides the obvious Crayola colors and GEEWUN)

It’s overly fiddly to the point of irritation to try and get everything lined up for one mode, the latch’s that are supposed to hold him together in a vehicle mode just don’t line up or don’t take, and I just don’t see how this is better than the gen version we got a few years back which had character, and was way more concise with its transformation

It's better from a cartoon accuracy standpoint and has a cleaner helicopter mode. And doesn't have awkward spoiler/tailfin parts that never feel like they have a clear correct robot mode position. The T30 toy can be fairly obnoxious to get properly tabbed together in altmode too- I know mine is. :BANG_HEAD: And SIEGE Springer's legs don't look any more convoluted than T30 Springer's arms.

Carefully check your SIEGE Springer's latches and slots for both flash and excessive room.
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