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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:48 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:What about Cybertron Defense Red Alert, though? What mold could they repurpose for him and what would he be called? We already have the G1 "Red Alert" in Siege.
Have them make an all new Stalker mold that can be retooled into Cybertron Defense Red Alert.

As for the name, he was called "First Gunner" in Japan, so maybe something like "Defense Gunner Red Alert" a la how the name "Galaxy Convoy" inspired the name of "Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime".


Armada Red Alert was called "Ratchet" in Micron Legend, mind you...
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:21 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:What about Cybertron Defense Red Alert, though? What mold could they repurpose for him and what would he be called? We already have the G1 "Red Alert" in Siege.
Have them make an all new Stalker mold that can be retooled into Cybertron Defense Red Alert.

As for the name, he was called "First Gunner" in Japan, so maybe something like "Defense Gunner Red Alert" a la how the name "Galaxy Convoy" inspired the name of "Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime".


Armada Red Alert was called "Ratchet" in Micron Legend, mind you...


..and renamed "First Aid" in Galaxy Force. Hot Shot went through a similar process, starting as "Hot Rod" in Micron Legend, then "Hot Shot" in Super Link, and finally "Exillion" in Galaxy Force. Were these all separate characters in Japan instead of the same characters throughout the trilogy as they were in Hasbro markets?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:34 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:What about Cybertron Defense Red Alert, though? What mold could they repurpose for him and what would he be called? We already have the G1 "Red Alert" in Siege.
Have them make an all new Stalker mold that can be retooled into Cybertron Defense Red Alert.

As for the name, he was called "First Gunner" in Japan, so maybe something like "Defense Gunner Red Alert" a la how the name "Galaxy Convoy" inspired the name of "Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime".


Armada Red Alert was called "Ratchet" in Micron Legend, mind you...


..and renamed "First Aid" in Galaxy Force. Hot Shot went through a similar process, starting as "Hot Rod" in Micron Legend, then "Hot Shot" in Super Link, and finally "Exillion" in Galaxy Force. Were these all separate characters in Japan instead of the same characters throughout the trilogy as they were in Hasbro markets?


Originally Galaxy Force was separate, but Hasbro wanted to keep Cybertron in continuity with Armada and Energon as originally planned, so the cartoon was finangled to patch up and retcon every discrepancy. For that matter, dump truck Demolishor ("Long Haul"), Snow Cat and Mirage were originally new characters, but Takara wanted them to be upgrades instead with names to match (Ironhide, Sandstorm and Shockwave into Irontread, Snowstorm and Shockfleet).
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby carytheone » Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:22 am

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Stargrave wrote:Siege rules
My feelings exactly. I'm sad to see it go. Hopefully Earthrise keeps the partying going as if it's Seige 2.o :DANCE:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby aronjlove » Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:46 am

As someone who is relatively new to the toy collecting part of the fandom I am astounded at how well engineered the Siege figures are. I regret spending scalper money on Takara Tomy Legends as I could have used that on more of the Siege line. I came from the IDW comics so I wanted my Brainstorm and Chromedome but the articulation on those pale in comparison to any single figure from the Siege line, not including the Micromasters. And from the images of the new Optimus and Cliffjumper it looks like Earthrise is going to be even more articulated. I'm gonna make soooo many stop-motion GIFs :POPCORN:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:30 pm

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All yall suck.

Everyone in here is raving about this "Impactor".

"Impactor?" I said, "the ugly looking Tank? That one? Thr one with the generic head that looks like a grunt in an Impactor Helmet? That Impactor? The one that Hasbro only made look like Impactor by putting the wrong insignea on him and packi g with two other figures I don't really have any interest in?"

"...The Impactor I had every intentionn of passing on and then saw him in stores and started to doubt myself?"

Thank you, for Coubterpunching me into buying an Impactor. I am very surprised at how happy I am with this figure. I don't like the jead, and I kbow its supposed to be early Marvel UK not later IDW, but its not. That is not the expression of a bot who is cool under pressure, not afraid to break a few laws or sacrifice himself in the name of getting the job done yet still worries about leading others on the same suicide mission. And the face is too small for the helmet. I don't like the Head sculpt, but I dobt hate it as much as I did the Render.

I love the way the Legs Transform. Its familiar, but its different too. And the feet filling in the back like they do is cool. I also like the tank turret transformation, and how it maintains the swivelling turret in a different way than the CW and Siege Megatron version of such.

He's got a nice set od weapons too. I want more, may have to see what some of the 3P add ons are offering.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:41 pm

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carytheone wrote:
Stargrave wrote:Siege rules
My feelings exactly. I'm sad to see it go. Hopefully Earthrise keeps the partying going as if it's Seige 2.o :DANCE:


I’m scared of and fear change. I started out loathing the idea of Siege then it was a whirlwind romance comedy and now we have all these Siege kids together... :lol:

Siege is so full of weird and quirky references and characters like Impactor but they keep hitting it out of the park for me. Come on Earthrise with your Microshieldmasters make me fall in love all over again :lol:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby carytheone » Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:00 pm

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Stargrave wrote:...it was a whirlwind romance comedy...
What was your "meet cute" moment? Mine was when I found Sideswipe at retail. That space lambo had me from the get go :x
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:07 pm

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carytheone wrote:
Stargrave wrote:...it was a whirlwind romance comedy...
What was your "meet cute" moment? Mine was when I found Sideswipe at retail. That space lambo had me from the get go :x


For me it was Cog. Good old reliable Cog had me from hello :lol:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:47 pm

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Flashwave wrote:All yall suck.

Fully agree with your points about the head and transformation. I cannot wait for the 3-pack one, with the IDW head. that is the one that I have been wanting. Was fully gonna pass on the retail one, but I counterpunched myself with how good it looked in the store.

It's a great figure, and hopefully the 3-pack one is the perfect version.

Also, Mirage is a pretty dang great figure. I love the alt mode, and the robot mode is pretty slick too. I wish he had some wrist rotation, but he's still really good.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:54 pm

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I don't go to the toy stores much anymore and just get my purchases from online.

I was ready to be done with the Transformers collecting, but I was at a Toys R Us (Canadian here) for picking out Birthday gifts for relatives when I saw the Transformers toy shelf's and it was packed full of wave 1 Siege figures.

After that I just couldn't help myself and got back into it, I was thinking that Siege would be the last line and it possibly still will be but Earthrise is looking nice, got to snag a Cliffjumper for sure since he's my fave Autobot.

I just love Siege
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:46 pm

Mirage is one of those figures that looks so good, so clean that it makes it hard for me to complain about GEEWUN when it looks that good on a deluxe budget. Him and the Sideswipe mold are basically the relatively basic design cues you expect of a transforming robot from the Diaclone line but heavily upgraded with modern engineering. If not for the faux chest hood, he'd basically be what the Diaclone designers intended but could not pull off. And no I don't count Masterpiece because MP is very much its own thing with an insane budget.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:18 pm

Motto: "Our society's downfall will not be this war. The war IS our society. That which will get us will be the little things. Some humanoid race, some tossed cannon, the little things that no one looks out for. THAT is for what we must be vigilant."
Weapon: Twin Shoulder-Mounted Rocket Launchers
carytheone wrote:
Stargrave wrote:...it was a whirlwind romance comedy...
What was your "meet cute" moment? Mine was when I found Sideswipe at retail. That space lambo had me from the get go :x

Hound, Skytread, and Prime. And Ivstill really like Classics Hound, but flat feet, good heels, and cool weapons really sold me on Siege Hound and Skytread is just funky and unique.
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Flashwave wrote:All yall suck.

Fully agree with your points about the head and transformation. I cannot wait for the 3-pack one, with the IDW head. that is the one that I have been wanting. Was fully gonna pass on the retail one, but I counterpunched myself with how good it looked in the store.

It's a great figure, and hopefully the 3-pack one is the perfect version.

Also, Mirage is a pretty dang great figure. I love the alt mode, and the robot mode is pretty slick too. I wish he had some wrist rotation, but he's still really good.

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I have said this before, but Mirage reminds me of a Dragster. I know its the wrong alt, b8t the higher spoiler and large, backset engine really sells it for me as a compact Cybertronian Speed machine. You can even atgue that the obvious fake chest sticking out the back is akind of futuristic airfoil wheelie bar thing for steering or lift management like a Hydroplane uses. I wish it was disguised more, but eh.

I have not convinced myself I care enough about or need the Powerdashers, other than Cromar and I am only getting him for G2 Sideswipe (between Cromar and Nonnef's upgrades G2 'Swipe is gonna be a BEAST) So I will for now be passing on the 3 pack. Maybe if it hits cheap but I'm not gonna double dip on Impactor at full price
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Ultra Markus » Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:18 pm

Motto: "“You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.” - Harvey Dent in The Dark Knight"
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how is that i see pictures of completely stocked shelves of transformers from other various stores but here in Oregon the walmarts and targets are basically empty except for one or two wave one siege and a couple cyberverse and a couple studio series :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Ultra Markus » Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:27 pm

Motto: "“You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.” - Harvey Dent in The Dark Knight"
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:32 pm

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Skritz wrote:Mirage is one of those figures that looks so good, so clean that it makes it hard for me to complain about GEEWUN when it looks that good on a deluxe budget. Him and the Sideswipe mold are basically the relatively basic design cues you expect of a transforming robot from the Diaclone line but heavily upgraded with modern engineering. If not for the faux chest hood, he'd basically be what the Diaclone designers intended but could not pull off. And no I don't count Masterpiece because MP is very much its own thing with an insane budget.

I am actually ok with the faux chest on him, it forms the back of the race car and reminds me more of the movie Sideswipe, with the back forming the chest. And the car itself really compresses and makes itself part of the robot mode.

He is really good. He is a good figure by itself, and a great figure in the line
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:21 pm

The mold looks so good it make me wish he had a retool/redeco. I mean, yes he technically does via Holo Mirage but does it really count when its THE SAME CHARACTER? Give me Leadfoot. Speedstream/Deluge or Fracture/Crasher.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:34 pm

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Mirage was made to be Slapdash, I am sad it doesn't seem like that will happen
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:00 pm

Motto: "Our society's downfall will not be this war. The war IS our society. That which will get us will be the little things. Some humanoid race, some tossed cannon, the little things that no one looks out for. THAT is for what we must be vigilant."
Weapon: Twin Shoulder-Mounted Rocket Launchers
Skritz wrote:The mold looks so good it make me wish he had a retool/redeco. I mean, yes he technically does via Holo Mirage but does it really count when its THE SAME CHARACTER? Give me Leadfoot. Speedstream/Deluge or Fracture/Crasher.
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Mirage was made to be Slapdash, I am sad it doesn't seem like that will happen

Give me all of those. Give ne those in a special edition Indy 500esque gift set. And give me a redeco as Rescue Bots Blurr just to add another car to the field.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby emlit » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:09 am

Motto: "I’ve already calculated your next three actions - save us some time and yield."
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aronjlove wrote:As someone who is relatively new to the toy collecting part of the fandom I am astounded at how well engineered the Siege figures are. I regret spending scalper money on Takara Tomy Legends as I could have used that on more of the Siege line. I came from the IDW comics so I wanted my Brainstorm and Chromedome but the articulation on those pale in comparison to any single figure from the Siege line, not including the Micromasters. And from the images of the new Optimus and Cliffjumper it looks like Earthrise is going to be even more articulated. I'm gonna make soooo many stop-motion GIFs :POPCORN:


War for Cybertron: Siege really re-ignited my interest in Transformers action figures. It has been such a good line. The bar has really been raised by Hasbro.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SpikeyTigertron » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:43 am

So I have a lot more faith with Omega Supreme as a city/base component than the other titans. I do think he was designed more in mind with Earthrise’s “airlock” system and assuming they really lean into it with the other micromaster bases I think he’ll be a real gem.

The more I fiddle with Fort Max the more I really believe he was robbed of his true potential being such a retool of Metroplex.

I know the leader figures were supposed to “bases” for the most part in Titan’s Return, but the decepticons really won the “oppressing military vehicle” option.

I do feel the TR/PotP connections on Omega were more of an Easter egg given their placement up so high on the tracks. I look forward to the next phase of “transformable play sets”
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SpikeyTigertron » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:06 am

Almost makes me wish they’d re-issue or maybe reuse some of the Titan’s Return leaders.... maybe spice up their articulation a little
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:23 am

Motto: "My past no longer binds my future..."
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Sixshot: "Okay Black Shadow... We can take them."
*Black Shadow is nabbed while six shot isn't looking*
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*sixshot sees Omega Supreme holding two pieces of Black Shadow*
Sixshot: "Ah... Bit late for that...Err... Well I am best friends with Daniel Whitwicky now... So I'm gonna go and hang out with him..."
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