The Energon Pub

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:16 am

Well, the Starscream carrying Megatron's gun mode thing can at least be excused as Megs shrinking by a smaller amount. But yeah. And of course there's the bit from "Carnage in C-Minor" where Magnus and the Constructicons were drawn in toy size.. And Hoist driving Huffer is one of the most hilarious breaks XD

Returning to the idea of "good enough", that's why I'd want a Titan Sky Lynx. He was huge in the show, so it works from that angle, but more than that... since he was Predaking's main rival among the Autobots it would be good to have a Generations version of him that PotP Predaking can't just sit on

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:00 pm

SkyFire Prime wrote:He's in proper scale as long as he's a head taller than Prime, I think we're all going to be fine. I might even sleep at night.

Sweet dreams.

And the scale in WFC is about bot mode, not vehicle mode so all the crazy stuff that happened in the G1 cartoon with Transformers riding Transformers doesn't matter.

Emerje

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:39 am

Why would that crazy stuff matter anyway?

It broke the robot AND vehicle mode scales and frankly reality (HOIST. DRIVING. HUFFER.) whether you go by the toy sizes or the cartoon's own scale charts.

That catalog photo is not entirely reassuring re: my fears about Siege Magnus being shorter than PotP Rodimus. Hm... Like, I'm really hyped for a more G1-looking Magnus with a separate cab robot and that can carry more cars.. I suppose if it does turn out that way I could get him anyway and make or hope a 3rd party makes a larger, G1-based trailer. And who knows, maybe we'll get a Leader Rodimus Prime that works like the G1 Rodimus Prime toy either as a surprise 4th Leader in this line or as a Leader in the next line.

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:41 am

I'm finally getting around to reviewing Siege toys so here's the Battlemasters and Micromasters. Interesting note, on the Air Strike team, there is a way to attach the sword effect from Lionizer onto the combined sword mode.

News Credits: 17 · by **AcademyofDrX** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:50 am

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:That catalog photo is not entirely reassuring re: my fears about Siege Magnus being shorter than PotP Rodimus. Hm... Like, I'm really hyped for a more G1-looking Magnus with a separate cab robot and that can carry more cars.. I suppose if it does turn out that way I could get him anyway and make or hope a 3rd party makes a larger, G1-based trailer. And who knows, maybe we'll get a Leader Rodimus Prime that works like the G1 Rodimus Prime toy either as a surprise 4th Leader in this line or as a Leader in the next line.

I recall reading that Magnus's trailer is not big enough for Deluxe cars but supports Micromasters only. I think it was during a Comic-Con interview, but I don't remember the specifics. Third party might be your best bet, though it still might not scale well.

News Credits: 4836 · by **william-james88** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:58 am

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:That catalog photo is not entirely reassuring re: my fears about Siege Magnus being shorter than PotP Rodimus. Hm... Like, I'm really hyped for a more G1-looking Magnus with a separate cab robot and that can carry more cars.. I suppose if it does turn out that way I could get him anyway and make or hope a 3rd party makes a larger, G1-based trailer. And who knows, maybe we'll get a Leader Rodimus Prime that works like the G1 Rodimus Prime toy either as a surprise 4th Leader in this line or as a Leader in the next line.

Magnus will be a small leader and he will be shorter than rodimus prime, which is wht I expected. They werent made to be in scale with eachother. I always found that rodimus too big and bulky anyway.

News Credits: 13 · by **mordhelm** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:54 am

william-james88 wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:That catalog photo is not entirely reassuring re: my fears about Siege Magnus being shorter than PotP Rodimus. Hm... Like, I'm really hyped for a more G1-looking Magnus with a separate cab robot and that can carry more cars.. I suppose if it does turn out that way I could get him anyway and make or hope a 3rd party makes a larger, G1-based trailer. And who knows, maybe we'll get a Leader Rodimus Prime that works like the G1 Rodimus Prime toy either as a surprise 4th Leader in this line or as a Leader in the next line.

Magnus will be a small leader and he will be shorter than rodimus prime, which is wht I expected. They werent made to be in scale with eachother. I always found that rodimus too big and bulky anyway.

While I enjoy the figure, scalewise I felt Rodimus would work better in scale as a voyager. Rightly or wrongly, I equated Rodimus and Optimus in height.

News Credits: 372 · by **Cyberpath** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:38 am

Someone scrubbed the dirt-paint off Megaton -- what d'you think?

I don't have any Siege figures yet, not till 2019, so haven't seen the effect in-hand yet.

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by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:23 pm

mordhelm wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:That catalog photo is not entirely reassuring re: my fears about Siege Magnus being shorter than PotP Rodimus. Hm... Like, I'm really hyped for a more G1-looking Magnus with a separate cab robot and that can carry more cars.. I suppose if it does turn out that way I could get him anyway and make or hope a 3rd party makes a larger, G1-based trailer. And who knows, maybe we'll get a Leader Rodimus Prime that works like the G1 Rodimus Prime toy either as a surprise 4th Leader in this line or as a Leader in the next line.

Magnus will be a small leader and he will be shorter than rodimus prime, which is wht I expected. They werent made to be in scale with eachother. I always found that rodimus too big and bulky anyway.

While I enjoy the figure, scalewise I felt Rodimus would work better in scale as a voyager. Rightly or wrongly, I equated Rodimus and Optimus in height.

Well, that's what I was getting at with the part I bolded. A Leader Rodimus Prime that was built like the original would end up with a Voyager robot.

And yeah, Will, PotP Roddy works better as a Super!Roddy of sorts (see also how huge he is compared to TR Galvatron). It's just that he's the only real non-MP update of Rodimus Prime we've had so far (Titrod doesn't count).

AcademyofDrX wrote:I recall reading that Magnus's trailer is not big enough for Deluxe cars but supports Micromasters only. I think it was during a Comic-Con interview, but I don't remember the specifics. Third party might be your best bet, though it still might not scale well.

Well, they're not wider than Optimus in Altmode, so he'll probably still be able to carry Siege Deluxe cars even if he wasn't specifically designed for it.

Also, a G1-based trailer in scale with a Voyager-size Ultra Magnus cab would result in a bigger robot mode for certain due to mass and transformation scheme.

In the meantime, if I want an Ultra Magnus in size with PotP Roddy, I can always just use my G1 Mags. Because, well, TFWiki nicknamed him "Honkimus Prime" for a reason.

by **Skritz** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:08 pm

Damn I forgot how good CW/Legends Ultra Magnus looked. Thought about getting him many, many times but ultimately I'm saving my Ultra Magnus spot for the Siege one.

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:17 pm

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
mordhelm wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:That catalog photo is not entirely reassuring re: my fears about Siege Magnus being shorter than PotP Rodimus. Hm... Like, I'm really hyped for a more G1-looking Magnus with a separate cab robot and that can carry more cars.. I suppose if it does turn out that way I could get him anyway and make or hope a 3rd party makes a larger, G1-based trailer. And who knows, maybe we'll get a Leader Rodimus Prime that works like the G1 Rodimus Prime toy either as a surprise 4th Leader in this line or as a Leader in the next line.

Magnus will be a small leader and he will be shorter than rodimus prime, which is wht I expected. They werent made to be in scale with eachother. I always found that rodimus too big and bulky anyway.

While I enjoy the figure, scalewise I felt Rodimus would work better in scale as a voyager. Rightly or wrongly, I equated Rodimus and Optimus in height.

Well, that's what I was getting at with the part I bolded. A Leader Rodimus Prime that was built like the original would end up with a Voyager robot.

And yeah, Will, PotP Roddy works better as a Super!Roddy of sorts (see also how huge he is compared to TR Galvatron). It's just that he's the only real non-MP update of Rodimus Prime we've had so far (Titrod doesn't count).

AcademyofDrX wrote:I recall reading that Magnus's trailer is not big enough for Deluxe cars but supports Micromasters only. I think it was during a Comic-Con interview, but I don't remember the specifics. Third party might be your best bet, though it still might not scale well.

Well, they're not wider than Optimus in Altmode, so he'll probably still be able to carry Siege Deluxe cars even if he wasn't specifically designed for it.

Also, a G1-based trailer in scale with a Voyager-size Ultra Magnus cab would result in a bigger robot mode for certain due to mass and transformation scheme.

In the meantime, if I want an Ultra Magnus in size with PotP Roddy, I can always just use my G1 Mags. Because, well, TFWiki nicknamed him "Honkimus Prime" for a reason.

Yeah, Power of the Primes Rodimus Prime is not going to be in scale with any Leader Class Ultra Magnus figure, unfortunately. We would need to revive the Supreme class or something to get an Ultra Magnus that fits in scale with any PotP Leader figure. What might work is using just the "Hot Rod" portion of Rodimus Prime from PotP as your Rodimus Prime. It's quite a bit bigger than a contemporary Deluxe Class figure, but not quite big enough to be a contemporary Voyager. He'd scale pretty well with Voyager Siege Optimus Prime and Leader Siege Ultra Magnus, I'd bet.

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:24 pm

Meh, the Hot Rod component doesn't have the requisite worry lines to be Rodimus Prime

I guess I'll just live with the size difference on those two and wait.

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:26 pm

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Meh, the Hot Rod component doesn't have the requisite worry lines to be Rodimus Prime I'll just fudge things and wait.

Rodimus Prime got some work done on his face. Don't judge! It's hard to meet the beauty standards of Cybertronian society these days, even for self-identified masculine/male robots! :lol:

by **Skritz** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:42 pm

Wolfman Jake wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Meh, the Hot Rod component doesn't have the requisite worry lines to be Rodimus Prime I'll just fudge things and wait.

Rodimus Prime got some work done on his face. Don't judge! It's hard to meet the beauty standards of Cybertronian society these days, even for self-identified masculine/male robots!

Rodimus is a very stressed bot, given he has to walk in Optimus' footsteps. Can't blame him for getting a face lift if the stress ate up his face and prematurely aged him. :lol:

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:20 pm

Thing is though, those worry lines are one of the primary visual distinctions in robot mode. Those and the more severe chin (which results in the Classics figure looking a bit too Rodimus Prime-ish in bot mode).

News Credits: 12 · by **Sentinel_Primal** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:28 pm

I just had a crazy idea for what the Leader Prime could be. What if it was similar to the RiD Prime? It'd make sense because the trailer formed the back half of the vehicle mode and wasn't too much of a change when he went supermode. Plus the base Prime was the standard look for Prime in the show

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:25 pm

If they wanna do another Leader Optimus but don't wanna do the Powermaster again, they could always do the other really big Optimus of G1, Star Convoy.

And we all know how much John Warden loves him some obscure Japanese G1 stuff.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:06 pm

Sabrblade wrote:If they wanna do another Leader Optimus but don't wanna do the Powermaster again, they could always do the other really big Optimus of G1, Star Convoy.

And we all know how much John Warden loves him some obscure Japanese G1 stuff.

That would make a good fit actually, have him fold out into a base like TR Leaders did!

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:25 pm

Skritz wrote:Rodimus is a very stressed bot, given he has to walk in Optimus' footsteps.

He's only got himself to blame for that for getting involved in a fight that wasn't his to begin with.

by **Skritz** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:31 pm

Burn wrote:
Skritz wrote:Rodimus is a very stressed bot, given he has to walk in Optimus' footsteps.

He's only got himself to blame for that for getting involved in a fight that wasn't his to begin with.

Uh, something something chosen one?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:36 pm

Skritz wrote:
Burn wrote:
Skritz wrote:Rodimus is a very stressed bot, given he has to walk in Optimus' footsteps.

He's only got himself to blame for that for getting involved in a fight that wasn't his to begin with.

Uh, something something chosen one?

Destiny struck out with Anakin, so... Hot Rod made up for that? :lol:

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:37 pm

If they ever do a proper Star Convoy I would pre-order him and I never pre-order Hasbro Transformers.

Skritz wrote:
Burn wrote:
Skritz wrote:Rodimus is a very stressed bot, given he has to walk in Optimus' footsteps.

He's only got himself to blame for that for getting involved in a fight that wasn't his to begin with.

Uh, something something chosen one?

There is a good argument made about how Optimus would have died anyway and Hot Rod was the only one brave enough to try to help him instead of stand back and watch like everyone else.

The local Target still hasn't gotten Siege stuff in yet.

Emerje

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:40 pm

Emerje wrote:The local Target still hasn't gotten Siege stuff in yet.

Emerje

Patience, one of my local ones got the Battle Masters on the pegs. It's pretty normal for anything new to pop up after Black Friday after older stock has been cleared... Except in my neighbourhood there hasn't been much clearing in the TF department :lol:

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:43 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Emerje wrote:The local Target still hasn't gotten Siege stuff in yet.

Emerje

Patience, one of my local ones got the Battle Masters on the pegs. It's pretty normal for anything new to pop up after Black Friday after older stock has been cleared... Except in my neighbourhood there hasn't been much clearing in the TF department

Yeah, seriously, I'm sure that we'll all be complaining about how siege wave 1 is shelfwarming by the end of december :lol:

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:49 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Emerje wrote:The local Target still hasn't gotten Siege stuff in yet.

Emerje

Patience, one of my local ones got the Battle Masters on the pegs. It's pretty normal for anything new to pop up after Black Friday after older stock has been cleared... Except in my neighbourhood there hasn't been much clearing in the TF department

Seriously, I was at Target just after opening Black Friday and they still have the same stuff on the shelves today, except someone moved all of the Dragonstorm figures over to the Jurassic Park section. Probably hoping nobody would notice and put something new in their place.

Emerje