The Energon Pub

[william-james88]

Sorry, but that's really funny or was it meant to be sarcastic?

Does that really need an answer?

Also, please reread what I wrote about TFwiki, I want to change what it currently says since it's wrong.

[Lunatic Prime]

And the BotCon version isn't really an "official" release to me.

But it’s official to Hasbro.

REALLY?

Also, Sabrblade, you think its worth changing the wiki that says this new Impactor's body is IDW based? Because I sure dont see it.

It already DOES

Also, please reread what I wrote about TFwiki, I want to change what it currently says since it's wrong.

Uh
I read that with completely wrong accentuation. My bad

[william-james88]

And the BotCon version isn't really an "official" release to me.

But it’s official to Hasbro.

REALLY?

Also, Sabrblade, you think its worth changing the wiki that says this new Impactor's body is IDW based? Because I sure dont see it.

It already DOES

Also, please reread what I wrote about TFwiki, I want to change what it currently says since it's wrong.

Uh
I read that with completely wrong accentuation. My bad

All good man, and yes all designs from the club are official and Hasbro has to approve all those designs. Hasbro was especially involved with those CW molds since some were actually Hasbro designs (like Reflector and Ratchet) and others completed Hasbro teams (like Bluestreak).

[CreolePrime]

l have one question: Will the tank mode ride around the track?

[bluecatcinema]

The New Omega Supreme looks amazing! Pairing him up with Countdown was an interesting choice, but also quite fitting.

[Wireless_Phantom]

l have one question: Will the tank mode ride around the track?

It will almost certainly have wheels, but I wouldn't bet on a motor, especially considering that Omega isn't too much more expensive than the other titans.

[Wolfman Jake]

Has anyone translated the writing on Siege Mirage yet? It doesn't look like standard Autobot (or Decepticon) lettering.

[Nemesis Primal]

Has anyone translated the writing on Siege Mirage yet? It doesn't look like standard Autobot (or Decepticon) lettering.

Looks like a stylized "Citanes" to me, it probably doesn't need translating.

[Overcracker]

If you mean the writing on his legs, it appears to just be a stylized version of "Citanes 26" his old sponsor and number from the G1 figure which was itself a modified "Gitanes" the cigarette brand that sponsored that car in Formula 1.

Can't really have a Cigarette brand on a children's toy now can you?

[RodimusConvoy13]

Has anyone translated the writing on Siege Mirage yet? It doesn't look like standard Autobot (or Decepticon) lettering.

It says “If you build the wall, crime will fall.”

[Cobotron]

It says: "Be smart, don't start!"

In Cybertronian of course.

[Deadput]

Oh man I wish I could do these mental gymnastics to be ok with it, I really do. But my favorite TF story of all time (and what I have argue to be THE BEST of all time as well) happens to feature a young Impactor before he became the Impactor we know today and he doesnt look like that either:

Fiction wise, thats the earliest look of Impactor and it doesnt look like that toy either.

I get what you mean, I wasn't saying that's his official younger look in IDW nor was I really saying that was his "young" design, I just meant that this was his look pre war and what he spent for the first bit of it.

But expecting IDW is probably just going to lead to disappointment, IDW's first run is over and done with

With the IDW comics being over I see Hasbro trying to distance themselves away, the IDW look good as it is was probably not the look Hasbro wanted to make for a more Sunbow style line, because looking at all the other designs, their all the same blocky cartoon look.

We have had different looks for characters over the years, this is just another one of them, and I'm sure like with everything else this is what Impactor is going to look like in the new comics.

At least it still looks like Impactor and actually gets his body right for the most part, the head is the only thing that really stands out and even then it's still based on an Impactor design.

[Hellscream9999]

Oh man I wish I could do these mental gymnastics to be ok with it, I really do. But my favorite TF story of all time (and what I have argue to be THE BEST of all time as well) happens to feature a young Impactor before he became the Impactor we know today and he doesnt look like that either:

Fiction wise, thats the earliest look of Impactor and it doesnt look like that toy either.

I get what you mean, I wasn't saying that's his official younger look in IDW nor was I really saying that was his "young" design, I just meant that this was his look pre war and what he spent for the first bit of it.

But expecting IDW is probably just going to lead to disappointment, IDW's first run is over and done with

With the IDW comics being over I see Hasbro trying to distance themselves away, the IDW look good as it is was probably not the look Hasbro wanted to make for a more Sunbow style line, because looking at all the other designs, their all the same blocky cartoon look.

We have had different looks for characters over the years, this is just another one of them, and I'm sure like with everything else this is what Impactor is going to look like in the new comics.

At least it still looks like Impactor and actually gets his body right for the most part, the head is the only thing that really stands out and even then it's still based on an Impactor design.

That's like trying to say that the G1 cartoon is over so we shouldn't reference that, and yet here we are



Look, I get it, some people like the whole bland, g1 rectangle thing, and I'm happy they're getting a figure that became popular from out of no where, but don't try and take it away from the rest of us, that this just isn't his most iconic design, and that trying to quash that notion (that IDW was nothing to anyone so we won't represent it) is kinda flying in the face of the line that's supposed to be touting the phrase 'we care about more than geewun, scout's honor';

They could have absolutely blended in idw design elements into this figure, hell, most people are saying that they'd like it if it had a different (more idw-esque) head, so clearly I'm not too far off from something.

I'm just sick of people defending stuff by making excuses when acknowledging that maybe hasbro missed the mark would go so much further in discussions as opposed to shouting 'you're obliged to like this, because it's what we're getting'

[Deadput]

That's like trying to say that the G1 cartoon is over so we shouldn't reference that, and yet here we are


Look, I get it, some people like the whole bland, g1 rectangle thing, and I'm happy they're getting a figure that became popular from out of no where, but don't try and take it away from the rest of us, that this just isn't his most iconic design, and that trying to quash that notion (that IDW was nothing to anyone so we won't represent it) is kinda flying in the face of the line that's supposed to be touting the phrase 'we care about more than geewun, scout's honor';

They could have absolutely blended in idw design elements into this figure, hell, most people are saying that they'd like it if it had a different (more idw-esque) head, so clearly I'm not too far off from something.

I'm just sick of people defending stuff by making excuses when acknowledging that maybe hasbro missed the mark would go so much further in discussions as opposed to shouting 'you're obliged to like this, because it's what we're getting'

I'm not saying that IDW should be forgotten myself (despite it's abysmal final couple years) but that Hasbro would probably be distancing themselves from it, which they clearly are doing in preparation for the reboot by using new designs influenced by the toys.

The only reason G1 is getting reused over and over is because it is the original and what most people in the fandom enjoy, that's why we get revisits to that and not Beast Wars, Rid 2001, Unicron Trilogy, TFA, Aligned for the most part and even in most of those other continuities starting from TFA they are using G1 inspirations.

Even the Movies that for the longest time were their own thing (and most people hated it) are now starting to put in more G1 influences as the Bee movie have shown, because G1 is the face of this franchise and that's how it will always be.

If Impactor shows up in the comics he will be using that design not the IDW one.

Also never have ever said that anyone "had" to like it, people are free to have their own opinions but just because you have the opinion that "this should be like that" doesn't mean it has to be that way.

They could of put IDW references into this toy but they did not because that's not the intention they were going for, they were clearly going for the original Impactor from the Marvel comics which basically is the "G1 Impactor" and the IDW version isn't nor will it ever be.

The IDW version may be more iconic but that isn't what made the character, that was his original appearances which I will argue were better then his IDW portrayal, he would never have been given such spotlight in IDW if he didn't make his mark in those original comics, Impactor would be nothing today without those comics, the IDW version simply expanded on an already existing character.

[chuckdawg1999]

Somebody has already mentioned it but Jetfire's armor bits look to partially be recolors of Shockwaves'.

They're not: Shockwave's has raised ridges on top of the barrels, while Jetfire's do not. It's a bit of a measly armor tbh: just the chest piece, the helmet, the arm guards and guns, all of which are stored on top of the jet.

Some are speculating that the armor is a nod to the GBP armor from Macross

[bodrock]

Of all the newly announced bots, I must have that Skyfire! He looks perfect.

I am spending a lot more on Siege than I ever planned....it's been so much fun.

Das Bot

[MechaMan Blade]

Hey guys. I wanted to give my Siege Optimus Prime a trailer, so I dug up the old BTS trailer for Classics Optimus Prime (which has the Fansproject Trailer instead). It's not a perfect fit, but it rests well enough.

[Wolfman Jake]

If you mean the writing on his legs, it appears to just be a stylized version of "Citanes 26" his old sponsor and number from the G1 figure which was itself a modified "Gitanes" the cigarette brand that sponsored that car in Formula 1.

Can't really have a Cigarette brand on a children's toy now can you?

I can definitely see the stylized font mimmicing "CITANES," but how on earth are those last two characters a "2" and a "6"? That's not stylization, that's completely made up. If they are established numerals from somewhere in the Transformers lore, I can't find them. I understand why "CITANES" had to be changed, but why not just use the proper Arabic numerals for 26? What would that hurt?

[ZeroWolf]

That's like trying to say that the G1 cartoon is over so we shouldn't reference that, and yet here we are


Look, I get it, some people like the whole bland, g1 rectangle thing, and I'm happy they're getting a figure that became popular from out of no where, but don't try and take it away from the rest of us, that this just isn't his most iconic design, and that trying to quash that notion (that IDW was nothing to anyone so we won't represent it) is kinda flying in the face of the line that's supposed to be touting the phrase 'we care about more than geewun, scout's honor';

They could have absolutely blended in idw design elements into this figure, hell, most people are saying that they'd like it if it had a different (more idw-esque) head, so clearly I'm not too far off from something.

I'm just sick of people defending stuff by making excuses when acknowledging that maybe hasbro missed the mark would go so much further in discussions as opposed to shouting 'you're obliged to like this, because it's what we're getting'

I'm not saying that IDW should be forgotten myself (despite it's abysmal final couple years) but that Hasbro would probably be distancing themselves from it, which they clearly are doing in preparation for the reboot by using new designs influenced by the toys.

The only reason G1 is getting reused over and over is because it is the original and what most people in the fandom enjoy, that's why we get revisits to that and not Beast Wars, Rid 2001, Unicron Trilogy, TFA, Aligned for the most part and even in most of those other continuities starting from TFA they are using G1 inspirations.

Even the Movies that for the longest time were their own thing (and most people hated it) are now starting to put in more G1 influences as the Bee movie have shown, because G1 is the face of this franchise and that's how it will always be.

If Impactor shows up in the comics he will be using that design not the IDW one.

Also never have ever said that anyone "had" to like it, people are free to have their own opinions but just because you have the opinion that "this should be like that" doesn't mean it has to be that way.

They could of put IDW references into this toy but they did not because that's not the intention they were going for, they were clearly going for the original Impactor from the Marvel comics which basically is the "G1 Impactor" and the IDW version isn't nor will it ever be.

The IDW version may be more iconic but that isn't what made the character, that was his original appearances which I will argue were better then his IDW portrayal, he would never have been given such spotlight in IDW if he didn't make his mark in those original comics, Impactor would be nothing today without those comics, the IDW version simply expanded on an already existing character.

First off, abysmal final years is an opinion, and for me the only weak part in the last few years was the unicron mini (for not doing more with unicron).

Secondly, yes G1 was the original and should be respected as such, just like Nintendo should be respected for saving the video games industry after its crash in the eighties. However, just because some thing came first, doesn't make it best. I feel like you're being disrespectful to other people's opinions that idw us better l, probably just because you yourself didn't like it. I don't like G1 but I'm not going to hold it against people who do like it and deify it. If people don't like this impactor because it's not IDW then give them that (as he isn't).

[Deadput]

First off, abysmal final years is an opinion, and for me the only weak part in the last few years was the unicron mini (for not doing more with unicron).

Secondly, yes G1 was the original and should be respected as such, just like Nintendo should be respected for saving the video games industry after its crash in the eighties. However, just because some thing came first, doesn't make it best. I feel like you're being disrespectful to other people's opinions that idw us better l, probably just because you yourself didn't like it. I don't like G1 but I'm not going to hold it against people who do like it and deify it. If people don't like this impactor because it's not IDW then give them that (as he isn't).

Your not telling me something like Lost Light was actually good compared to the first season of MTMTE are you? Or that RID wasn't stronger in story telling then Optimus Prime was?

The whole crossover thing with other franchises like Mask or GI Joe being shoved in an already existing universe did not help the quality of the stories going forward besides the stuff with Rom because that was genuinely written well and actually fit with the Transformers

Visionaries existed and was a disservice to both the original material and the Transformers.


As a whole I like IDW and I certainly never said that IDW was worse then G1 but I judge each continuity by each individual issue or scene alone and not as a whole, and the last couple years of IDW sure had some very weak/bad scenes but just like how the G1 cartoon had some bad scenes/episodes or how the original comics had bad issues themselves.


This wasn't about my opinion if IDW was bad or not, this was about how this Impactor toy was not made with the IDW version in mind but the original Marvel comics one which I will argue is the iconic Impactor, he wouldn't have had such a big role in IDW otherwise, people remember IDW Impactor more because he was newer as well as involved with one of the best stories IDW has ever put out.

I actually think Last Stand of the Wreckers was actually too good because most of the stories that came afterwards in that continuity for the most part didn't come close.


IDW Impactor isn't the only Impactor to exist, I think it's silly that just because it doesn't share the headsculpt of him that it suddenly means this is a horrible Impactor figure, it being a bad figure is more on things like the hollow legs.

[ZeroWolf]

But to the people complaining, the iconic impactor is the IDW one now, its their opinion and isn't something that can be argued as fact...

Also I had (successfully it seems) forgotten about visionaries (which was story content that killed that for me, the new designs rocked in my opinion),so thank you for reminding me...

[Overcracker]

I can definitely see the stylized font mimmicing "CITANES," but how on earth are those last two characters a "2" and a "6"? That's not stylization, that's completely made up. If they are established numerals from somewhere in the Transformers lore, I can't find them. I understand why "CITANES" had to be changed, but why not just use the proper Arabic numerals for 26? What would that hurt?

Hard to say, maybe having actual numbers there would just seem out of place amongst the pseudo Cybertronian, so they went with some random characters there.

If there's something more there, maybe a black light can reveal it when he's in hand.

[Lunatic Prime]

If there's something more there, maybe a black light can reveal it when he's in hand.

As of speaking black light:

The only "new" I can spot (besides the usual stuff) is that (Autobot) faction symbol above the half-track.

[ThunderThruster]

With all this bickering about Impactor, I think we only deserve this version of him:

[_ThatsJustPrime_]

Omega Supreme looks SO good but he's gonna be really expensive