Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:03 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Tying into SIEGE, specifically to the upcoming Omega Supreme (I vaguely recall there was a more relevant thread, but I've been away and can't seem to find it) I have two related questions:

1) To compliment the release of a new Omega, does this guy deserve a New figure in this line too?

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That would work really well as a redeco of Impactor with a new head.


Indeed. I thought of Impactor or Brunt. Applying a redeco of the mold to Demolisher too would work, while we're at it.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:08 pm

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Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron Prime is still looking amazing. Still disappointed that Hasbro decided to make it just G1 Prime but with armor instead of going all out and doing a new Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron Prime. Hope some 3rd Party company is already planning an upgrade kit for him to give him Cybertron Prime's base head and better cannons or at least cannon fillers
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:19 pm

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron Prime is still looking amazing. Still disappointed that Hasbro decided to make it just G1 Prime but with armor instead of going all out and doing a new Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron Prime.

Wasnt the original similar to that? I remember it being the most G1 prime since G1 prime.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:23 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron Prime is still looking amazing. Still disappointed that Hasbro decided to make it just G1 Prime but with armor instead of going all out and doing a new Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron Prime.

Wasnt the original similar to that? I remember it being the most G1 prime since G1 prime.


Kinda, aside from the mouth slit and accented crest:

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:30 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron Prime is still looking amazing. Still disappointed that Hasbro decided to make it just G1 Prime but with armor instead of going all out and doing a new Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron Prime.

Wasnt the original similar to that? I remember it being the most G1 prime since G1 prime.


Hardly! Cybertron Prime is as far removed from the G1 design as it gets:
-Cybertronian Fire Truck vs '80 Square Cab with trailer
-Silver and yellow head details
-Optimus Primal-esque mouth
-Arm wheels
-Fake chest windows of a completely different shape
-Has the shoulders made from the front of the cab

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:30 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron Prime is still looking amazing. Still disappointed that Hasbro decided to make it just G1 Prime but with armor instead of going all out and doing a new Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron Prime.

Wasnt the original similar to that? I remember it being the most G1 prime since G1 prime.

I'm just meaning the inner bot, specifically the head. It's a small thing, but for some reason it really bothers me that even in a big new non-G1 figure, there still had to be some G1 for it to be made. Cause Cybertron Prime had a mouthplate similar to Optimus Primal where he still had the mouth, but also plating around it, and this new version is just G1 Prime inside armor that makes him look like Cybertron Prime, rather than Cybertron Prime and his Supermode
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:32 pm

Sentinel_Primal wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron Prime is still looking amazing. Still disappointed that Hasbro decided to make it just G1 Prime but with armor instead of going all out and doing a new Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron Prime.

Wasnt the original similar to that? I remember it being the most G1 prime since G1 prime.

I'm just meaning the inner bot, specifically the head. It's a small thing, but for some reason it really bothers me that even in a big new non-G1 figure, there still had to be some G1 for it to be made. Cause Cybertron Prime had a mouthplate similar to Optimus Primal where he still had the mouth, but also plating around it, and this new version is just G1 Prime inside armor that makes him look like Cybertron Prime, rather than Cybertron Prime and his Supermode


I'm sure 3P and/or Shapeways will try to rectify this as best they can. >:oP
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:33 pm

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron Prime is still looking amazing. Still disappointed that Hasbro decided to make it just G1 Prime but with armor instead of going all out and doing a new Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron Prime.

Wasnt the original similar to that? I remember it being the most G1 prime since G1 prime.

I'm just meaning the inner bot, specifically the head. It's a small thing, but for some reason it really bothers me that even in a big new non-G1 figure, there still had to be some G1 for it to be made. Cause Cybertron Prime had a mouthplate similar to Optimus Primal where he still had the mouth, but also plating around it, and this new version is just G1 Prime inside armor that makes him look like Cybertron Prime, rather than Cybertron Prime and his Supermode


I'd like to think of him as G1 Prime, but with armor and power derived from his Galaxy Force counterpart... Like Kamen Rider Zi-O :lol:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:34 pm

Frankly the G1-esque chest does not bother me, I understand the limitations of retooling. However the lack of Cybertron Optimus/Galaxy Convoy head in the smaller mode really bugs me.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:35 pm

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Skritz wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron Prime is still looking amazing. Still disappointed that Hasbro decided to make it just G1 Prime but with armor instead of going all out and doing a new Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron Prime.

Wasnt the original similar to that? I remember it being the most G1 prime since G1 prime.


Hardly! Cybertron Prime is as far removed from the G1 design as it gets:
-Cybertronian Fire Truck vs '80 Square Cab with trailer
-Silver and yellow head details
-Optimus Primal-esque mouth
-Arm wheels
-Fake chest windows of a completely different shape
-Has the shoulders made from the front of the cab

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I mean, Bayverse Prime or Armada Prime would probably take the title of "Farthest Removed from G1" because Armada Prime doesn't have the chest windows in any capacity, with yellow and more angular designs, and Bayverse Prime is... Well, as much as I love the Bayverse designs (pre AOE and TLK), even I can't really find any outstanding similarities until it gets to the mouthplate and ears
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:37 pm

I find early Bayverse Prime to be more G1-accurate in the kibble placement than Cybertron Optimus, but that's just me.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:57 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:07 pm

Sentinel_Primal wrote:
Skritz wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron Prime is still looking amazing. Still disappointed that Hasbro decided to make it just G1 Prime but with armor instead of going all out and doing a new Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron Prime.

Wasnt the original similar to that? I remember it being the most G1 prime since G1 prime.


Hardly! Cybertron Prime is as far removed from the G1 design as it gets:
-Cybertronian Fire Truck vs '80 Square Cab with trailer
-Silver and yellow head details
-Optimus Primal-esque mouth
-Arm wheels
-Fake chest windows of a completely different shape
-Has the shoulders made from the front of the cab

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I mean, Bayverse Prime or Armada Prime would probably take the title of "Farthest Removed from G1" because Armada Prime doesn't have the chest windows in any capacity, with yellow and more angular designs, and Bayverse Prime is... Well, as much as I love the Bayverse designs (pre AOE and TLK), even I can't really find any outstanding similarities until it gets to the mouthplate and ears


No that would be Beast Wars bat Optimus because that was intended to be Optimus Prime. Pretty sure he’s got that title if there was one
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Ultra Markus » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:39 pm

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Randomhero wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:
Skritz wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron Prime is still looking amazing. Still disappointed that Hasbro decided to make it just G1 Prime but with armor instead of going all out and doing a new Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron Prime.

Wasnt the original similar to that? I remember it being the most G1 prime since G1 prime.


Hardly! Cybertron Prime is as far removed from the G1 design as it gets:
-Cybertronian Fire Truck vs '80 Square Cab with trailer
-Silver and yellow head details
-Optimus Primal-esque mouth
-Arm wheels
-Fake chest windows of a completely different shape
-Has the shoulders made from the front of the cab

Image
vs
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I mean, Bayverse Prime or Armada Prime would probably take the title of "Farthest Removed from G1" because Armada Prime doesn't have the chest windows in any capacity, with yellow and more angular designs, and Bayverse Prime is... Well, as much as I love the Bayverse designs (pre AOE and TLK), even I can't really find any outstanding similarities until it gets to the mouthplate and ears


No that would be Beast Wars bat Optimus because that was intended to be Optimus Prime. Pretty sure he’s got that title if there was one

I think the most far removed optimus prime would be machine wars optimus prime and the first transmetal optimus primal as there is nothing similar to compare with any other optimus prime
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:47 pm

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Ultra Markus wrote:I think the most far removed optimus prime would be machine wars optimus prime and the first transmetal optimus primal as there is nothing similar to compare with any other optimus prime
Optimus Primal in any of his forms can get away with it by virtue of his being a separate person from Optimus Prime.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:00 pm

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Ultra Markus wrote:I think the most far removed optimus prime would be machine wars optimus prime and the first transmetal optimus primal as there is nothing similar to compare with any other optimus prime


Don't forget G2 Go-Bot Optimus Prime and the G2 Autoroller General Optimus Prime. ;)

But you know? Those two plus Machine Wars get a pass because they were redecos of non-Optimus Prime figures. :lol:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:04 pm

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Ultra Markus wrote:I think the most far removed optimus prime would be machine wars optimus prime and the first transmetal optimus primal as there is nothing similar to compare with any other optimus prime


The farthest I can thing of from G1 Optimus is the Movie KNIGHT Optimus as seen in AoE and TlK. That Optimus is a long nose truck, but the bot is a dude wearing a wetsuit with absolutely no hint of a truck anywhere on his body.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:07 pm

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Y'all are forgetting the most radically-designed Optimus (Prime or otherwise) of them all. ;)

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Postby Ultra Markus » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:28 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Y'all are forgetting the most radically-designed Optimus (Prime or otherwise) of them all. ;)

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:40 pm

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Wave 3: Thundercracker(?) and Springer
Wave 4: Thundercracker(?) and Apeface(?)
Wave 5: Apeface(?)


How did you come up with this projection for the Voyager waves? I would just assume Wave 4 is Apeface for now. Why repeat Thundercracker and then have have a fifth wave with Apeface again?

I was trying to base these off the release dates. All of the classes have some wonky release dates really.

also, Galaxy Prime looks fantastic! And Smashdown as the mascot of the Wreckers who happens to be a Minotaur Hammer is everything I could ever have wanted. I'm buying 3.

Also got Shockwave this weekend. Passed on him upon seeing him initially Friday night, but went back and got him tonight. They even added the SS leaders in that time, so triple leader score!

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:04 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:So we're looking at the following for the classes, right?
Voyagers
Wave 1: Prime and Megatron
Wave 2: Starscream and Soundwave
Wave 3: Thundercracker(?) and Springer
Wave 4: Thundercracker(?) and Apeface(?)
Wave 5: Apeface(?)


How did you come up with this projection for the Voyager waves? I would just assume Wave 4 is Apeface for now. Why repeat Thundercracker and then have have a fifth wave with Apeface again?

I was trying to base these off the release dates. All of the classes have some wonky release dates really.


I think it's because those are actually the release dates for the character specific cases. So, when you see "September" for Springer or something like that, it's the release date for the all-Springer case, not the retail wave that goes to brick-and-mortar stores that will contain Springer and Thundercracker together, for instance.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wireless_Phantom » Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:09 pm

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron Prime is still looking amazing. Still disappointed that Hasbro decided to make it just G1 Prime but with armor instead of going all out and doing a new Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron Prime. Hope some 3rd Party company is already planning an upgrade kit for him to give him Cybertron Prime's base head and better cannons or at least cannon fillers


If you want to really go deep with third party and have some patience I believe Make Toys teased a Galaxy Force Convoy. I know I would go for that if I could justify spending that much on a figure like that (still might try to anyway)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:14 pm

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Wireless_Phantom wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron Prime is still looking amazing. Still disappointed that Hasbro decided to make it just G1 Prime but with armor instead of going all out and doing a new Galaxy Convoy/Cybertron Prime. Hope some 3rd Party company is already planning an upgrade kit for him to give him Cybertron Prime's base head and better cannons or at least cannon fillers


If you want to really go deep with third party and have some patience I believe Make Toys teased a Galaxy Force Convoy. I know I would go for that if I could justify spending that much on a figure like that (still might try to anyway)

I unfortunately can't even justify MP figures, let alone 3rd Party MP scaled figures. Upgrade kits are as far as I can go without BBTS' insane discounts on some older figures, and even then I can really only justify the upgrade kits ones for figures that truly need one like Optimal Optimus from POTP and Predaking, or figures that Hasbro won't ever do like Paddles
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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:SICK: ..You had to go there, didn't you?

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