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by **LegacyPrime** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:08 pm

I'm a Decepticon, and I have been with the HMW for a while know and have noticed that almost every mission I put my robots in, there are up to three times as many Autobots as there are Decepticons. This happens no matter what time I put them in. Even when no one else is in the mission and I join, the slot for the Autobots fill up almost immediately. I don't want to be alone so is this has happened to you, please leave a response.

News Credits: 1 · by **Absolute Zero** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:35 pm

It's because the autobots greatly outnumber every other faction, and the former coder was short bus special when he put the missions together, and even specialer when he adjusted the missions.

The only advice I can offer you is to hit Darkmount and find out when the other cons who are still playing are on. If you can't get back up, go to the arena. And hang in there. Hopefully V2 will by out in about 2 months and all the beast factions will be gone, so you'll get some more back up then.

News Credits: 3 · by **Archanubis** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:28 pm

Absolute Zero wrote:all the beast factions will be gone, so you'll get some more back up then.

Not much!

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:43 am

legoman06524 wrote:I'm a Decepticon, and I have been with the HMW for a while know and have noticed that almost every mission I put my robots in, there are up to three times as many Autobots as there are Decepticons. This happens no matter what time I put them in. Even when no one else is in the mission and I join, the slot for the Autobots fill up almost immediately. I don't want to be alone so is this has happened to you, please leave a response.

Welcome to the HMW forums Legoman!
AZ's response hit the nail on the head. The mission structure for the current game is all over the place, and the bots have always had the largest faction in the game - but that's not always an advantage. Drop into the Darkmount forum and have a read, there may well be other 'cons with the same issue in your timezone that can help.

News Credits: 1 · by **Absolute Zero** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:57 pm

Archanubis wrote:
Absolute Zero wrote:all the beast factions will be gone, so you'll get some more back up then.

Not much!

It's better then nothing.

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:28 pm

Absolute Zero wrote:
Archanubis wrote:
Absolute Zero wrote:all the beast factions will be gone, so you'll get some more back up then.

Not much!

It's better then nothing.

Cybertron War Room wrote:1. revengeofstarscream - 59255952
2. Name_Violation - 55853659
3. Galvatron Supreme - 51283600
4. SNAPCASE - 39943215
5. Fearless Echoes - 39620661
6. Absolute Zero - 39238816

That's 4 Preds in the top 6 right now.

And all of those will go Con come V2 I'd imagine.
What the cons will lack in numbers, they will (as usual) make up in dedication, skill, quality and general awesomness... even if we also have Galvatron Supreme too...

News Credits: 3 · by **DISCHARGE** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:46 am

Absolute Zero wrote:
Archanubis wrote:
Absolute Zero wrote:all the beast factions will be gone, so you'll get some more back up then.

Not much!

It's better then nothing.

Leave the beast factions, the traitors that they are.

Just worry about putting some hurt onto any opponents you come across.
Grrr.

by **Bloodlust** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:18 am

DISCHARGE wrote:
Absolute Zero wrote:
Archanubis wrote:
Absolute Zero wrote:all the beast factions will be gone, so you'll get some more back up then.

Not much!

It's better then nothing.

Leave the beast factions, the traitors that they are.

Just worry about putting some hurt onto any opponents you come across.
Grrr.

Now, now, they've seen the light (or is it the darkness since we're the *evil* faction?), even if they were forced to, that makes it more likely that somebody ELSE will take the energy weapons and sword blows before us....

Heheheheh

Welcome back cannon fodder!!

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:04 pm

Pfft, who are you calling cannon fodder?

News Credits: 1 · by **Absolute Zero** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:17 pm

Redimus GTS wrote:Pfft, who are you calling cannon fodder?

Themselves I'd guess.

by **Bloodlust** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:23 am

Absolute Zero wrote:
Redimus GTS wrote:Pfft, who are you calling cannon fodder?

Themselves I'd guess.

Quiet, had about 4 aneurysms that day......

News Credits: 1 · by **Blackstreak** » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:57 pm

I've noticed the huge number of Autobots in the missions too, and the lack of opponents in arena also. That is perhaps the biggest reason I don't play nearly as much as I use to. When one side is swamped w/ fighters and the other side a bit skimpy only a couple hog the xp.
And don't ask me to change sides cuz I'm autobot all the way.

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:39 pm

Blackstreak wrote:I've noticed the huge number of Autobots in the missions too, and the lack of opponents in arena also. That is perhaps the biggest reason I don't play nearly as much as I use to. When one side is swamped w/ fighters and the other side a bit skimpy only a couple hog the xp.
And don't ask me to change sides cuz I'm autobot all the way.

That and, you know, you cant switch sides at all...

by **Bloodlust** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:23 am

Redimus GTS wrote:
Blackstreak wrote:I've noticed the huge number of Autobots in the missions too, and the lack of opponents in arena also. That is perhaps the biggest reason I don't play nearly as much as I use to. When one side is swamped w/ fighters and the other side a bit skimpy only a couple hog the xp.
And don't ask me to change sides cuz I'm autobot all the way.

That and, you know, you cant switch sides at all...

That and why would we want a coward that hides behind numbers on our team?

We pride ourselves on taking you out when it's 3 on 1

by **Naked Magnus** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:26 am

Blackstreak wrote:I've noticed the huge number of Autobots in the missions too, and the lack of opponents in arena also. That is perhaps the biggest reason I don't play nearly as much as I use to. When one side is swamped w/ fighters and the other side a bit skimpy only a couple hog the xp.
And don't ask me to change sides cuz I'm autobot all the way.

When the game reset in the summer of 2008, the Autobots were the ones who were outnumbered. For a long time the top 50 transformers were ALL Decepticons.

The Autobots were eventually able to turn the tide.

by **Bloodlust** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:42 am

revengeofstarscream wrote:
Blackstreak wrote:I've noticed the huge number of Autobots in the missions too, and the lack of opponents in arena also. That is perhaps the biggest reason I don't play nearly as much as I use to. When one side is swamped w/ fighters and the other side a bit skimpy only a couple hog the xp.
And don't ask me to change sides cuz I'm autobot all the way.

When the game reset in the summer of 2008, the Autobots were the ones who were outnumbered. For a long time the top 50 transformers were ALL Decepticons.

The Autobots were eventually able to turn the tide.

Because a bunch of Cons tried to infiltrate and bring you down from the inside, but unfortunately they were corrupted by your goodie-two-shoes ways

by **darkfalz32** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:06 pm

I've noticed the huge number of Autobots in the missions too

Same here. its almost impossible for my team to lose because when I'm in a mission ther are so few Decepticons. Honestly, its getting kind of boring

News Credits: 1 · by **crazyfists** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:37 pm

At least bots have back-ups in missions. When I started playing it was common place to be out numbered and half the time to be the only bot in a mission against a full con team.

Sometimes time plays a factor, othertimes it's level breakdown or a lack of active players.

by **slip** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:51 pm

Having the odds against you has always been great to me I learned to thrive on it.
Examples of why as follows.
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... _id=115808
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... _id=115771
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... _id=116267
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... _id=115818
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... _id=116271
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... _id=115770
Now what do these have in common well A over base scores B lots of meager scores on the opposition side.
Conclusion I grow stronger they grow weak.

News Credits: 7 · by **alldarker** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:10 am

slip wrote:(...)A over base scores B lots of meager scores on the opposition side.
Conclusion I grow stronger they grow weak.

Wrong. In the hour you will need to get your 'Con back online from the CR-chamber, the 'Bots, especially the ones with no or little damage, are able to enter missions again, kill more 'Cons and gain more XP.
Conclusion 'Bots grow stronger while you stay weak.

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:31 am

alldarker wrote:In the hour you will need to get your 'Con back online from the CR-chamber, the 'Bots, especially the ones with no or little damage, are able to enter missions again, kill more 'Cons and gain more XP.
Conclusion 'Bots grow stronger while you stay weak.

You keep believing that, and whist you fight over the scraps in the half empty missions, us outnumbered cons can haul the xp taking you down with us and take a well deserved nap for an hour. :twisted:

News Credits: 7 · by **alldarker** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:48 pm

Psychout wrote:You keep believing that, and whist you fight over the scraps in the half empty missions, us outnumbered cons can haul the xp taking you down with us and take a well deserved nap for an hour.

Oh, you must mean scraps like these or these (all missions done in the last 4 hours)?
Sleep tight, 'Cons...

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:27 am

kiteblackrose32 wrote:
I've noticed the huge number of Autobots in the missions too

Same here. its almost impossible for my team to lose because when I'm in a mission ther are so few Decepticons. Honestly, its getting kind of boring

Try being a (low) level 4 Pred.... Either no oposition or very low level oposition in the missions (seriously, Ive been outnumbered 4v1 and won yet got only 600xp...), and next to no xp in the arena cuase the *only* oposition is a bunch of transformers owned by revengeofstarscream and galvatron supreme who should be level 5 with that xp...

alldarker wrote:
Psychout wrote:You keep believing that, and whist you fight over the scraps in the half empty missions, us outnumbered cons can haul the xp taking you down with us and take a well deserved nap for an hour.

Oh, you must mean scraps like these or these (all missions done in the last 4 hours)?
Sleep tight, 'Cons...

Yet oddly the top 10 is awash with Cons and Preds. Strange....

News Credits: 7 · by **alldarker** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:56 am

Redimus GTS wrote:Yet oddly the top 10 is awash with Cons and Preds. Strange....

Total shenanigans. The Smelting Pool gave a lot of XP away that was never actually earned in battle. More 'Cons and 'Preds must have chosen this easy way out. If you were able to take all that extra XP away, you'd get a real picture. Nowadays, due to the Smelting Pool, top X lists don't mean a thing in HMW.

Me, I never took part in the Smelting Pool. I remember being surprised when my team went from being the nr. 33 team to the nr. 75 team. That means at least 40 teams benefitted from the extra Smelting Pool XP.

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:26 pm

alldarker wrote:
Redimus GTS wrote:Yet oddly the top 10 is awash with Cons and Preds. Strange....

Total shenanigans. The Smelting Pool gave a lot of XP away that was never actually earned in battle. More 'Cons and 'Preds must have chosen this easy way out. If you were able to take all that extra XP away, you'd get a real picture. Nowadays, due to the Smelting Pool, top X lists don't mean a thing in HMW.

Me, I never took part in the Smelting Pool. I remember being surprised when my team went from being the nr. 33 team to the nr. 75 team. That means at least 40 teams benefitted from the extra Smelting Pool XP.

That's an almost entirly irelivent point, as most (possibly all) of the current top 10 were already in the top 10 before the smelting pool happened. It'd be very surprising if *anybody* who spent enough time to get to the top 10 on this game would decide after all that work that they wanted to lose their place rather than get more xp to play with.