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It is still great improvoement over Unicron Energon/Cybertron, where all great ideas where ruined by solving them all the same way aka "kill character and restore it with no memories."Evil_the_Nub wrote:BeastProwl wrote:Silas Breakdown was a 10/10 badass character and idea, they should have kept him longer.
That's why I didn't like Prime. They had a lot of great concepts that were resolved way too quickly.
To be honest, I belive that Phase Shifter was a terrible idea, mostly because creators never explain what is Shifter's weakness or downside. It's seems to be a perfect weapon. And this bring question why Smokescreen won't use it all the time. For me Phase Shfter should have some kind of drawback and don't protect from Predacon's fire.Phase Shifter: Became Smokescreen's signature weapon, and saved him from death probably more times that G1 quotes have been uttered in the series.
The worst party about Apex Armor is that later against better judgement, they decide to give it to Miko.The Apex Armor: Used to distract Soundwave so he would be trapped in the Shadowzone, also saving Jack's life.
TurboMMaster wrote:And this bring question why Smokescreen won't use it all the time.
The worst party about Apex Armor is that later against better judgement, they decide to give it to Miko.The Apex Armor: Used to distract Soundwave so he would be trapped in the Shadowzone, also saving Jack's life.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
Dead Metal wrote:The original Marvel comics are crap, and have horrible artwork for the robots.
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Dead Metal wrote:The original Marvel comics are crap, and have horrible artwork for the robots.
Agreed 150%. Those comics are pieces of trash.
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Well, here's another one from me. The 1986 movie is a piece of utter crap, with barely-connected scenes, two huge things-Unicron and the Matrix-pulled out the writer's asses, almost complete disrespect to the previous two seasons and generally is pretty much horrid.
And most of the season three G1 cast can go straight to hell.
Blast Cannon wrote:RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Well, here's another one from me. The 1986 movie is a piece of utter crap, with barely-connected scenes, two huge things-Unicron and the Matrix-pulled out the writer's asses, almost complete disrespect to the previous two seasons and generally is pretty much horrid.
And most of the season three G1 cast can go straight to hell.
Get out.
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Well, here's another one from me. The 1986 movie is a piece of utter crap, with barely-connected scenes, two huge things-Unicron and the Matrix-pulled out the writer's asses, almost complete disrespect to the previous two seasons and generally is pretty much horrid.
And most of the season three G1 cast can go straight to hell.
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Blast Cannon wrote:RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Well, here's another one from me. The 1986 movie is a piece of utter crap, with barely-connected scenes, two huge things-Unicron and the Matrix-pulled out the writer's asses, almost complete disrespect to the previous two seasons and generally is pretty much horrid.
And most of the season three G1 cast can go straight to hell.
Get out.
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Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
kaijuguy19 wrote:I actually like the Alilenged countinuity. Yes it has problems but at the same time we still have time to have it more fleshed out. Besides wasn't the movie universe had this similer problem before Barber went and patched things up? Or most of IDW's troubles like AHM? The same can be done for the Aligend universe with careful writing.
SlyTF1 wrote:kaijuguy19 wrote:I actually like the Alilenged countinuity. Yes it has problems but at the same time we still have time to have it more fleshed out. Besides wasn't the movie universe had this similer problem before Barber went and patched things up? Or most of IDW's troubles like AHM? The same can be done for the Aligend universe with careful writing.
I just don't care for how the universe portrays Cybertron. Having it be a caste system seems stupid and takes away the impact of Optimus and Megatron rising from their previous positions.
njb902 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:kaijuguy19 wrote:I actually like the Alilenged countinuity. Yes it has problems but at the same time we still have time to have it more fleshed out. Besides wasn't the movie universe had this similer problem before Barber went and patched things up? Or most of IDW's troubles like AHM? The same can be done for the Aligend universe with careful writing.
I just don't care for how the universe portrays Cybertron. Having it be a caste system seems stupid and takes away the impact of Optimus and Megatron rising from their previous positions.
Really? I think it makes for a more compelling story. I like that Megatron just doesn't want to be just rid of Optimus, he hates him on a visceral level. His anger is so all consuming it makes him terrifying and blind on occasion. As for Optimus I find his spirit to continue the fight after all he has lost to be epic.
However those are just my feelings, don't let me tell you how to feel.
Actually, I belive that Megatron's primary objective was to capture Sam. This is why he didn't use his fool power to beat Optimus badly. And turned around from Optimus each time he saw Sam running. Megatron hoped that he may capture Sam and gain acces to he's knowledge before Fallen could be released, so he could have all the glory and become independent from he's master. With energon gathered from our Sun, he become too powerfull even for Fallen. However, he consider Grindor's demise as a humiliation, and in anger decide to kill Optimus. So, Forest Battle was well calculated, yet Megatron suffer vilianous breakdown for a moment and screw everything...SlyTF1 wrote:I think the movies did that better. Megatron never exactly went out of his way to kill Optimus, until The Fallen needed him dead.
MightyMagnus78 wrote:Nothing Hasbro does surprises me anymore, their ineptitude is legendary!
Burn wrote:Shadowstream wrote:It's quite clear they dun dropped the ball, but did they have to drop it so far and so hard?
It's FunPub. It's their specialty.
Cyber Bishop wrote:kaijuguy19 wrote:While the movies are far from perfect they aren't really on Batman and Robin levels of awful though ROTF comes close.
There are not many movies that are the level of Batman and Robin.
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Dead Metal wrote:The original Marvel comics are crap, and have horrible artwork for the robots.
Agreed 150%. Those comics are pieces of trash.
mrmonkey wrote:I still think the first Bayformers is the worst of the 3.
Slashercon wrote:the fact that as a film itself, you can't really enjoy it unless you had previously watched the cartoon, Optimus' death (how it happened, why it happened) etc.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
SlyTF1 wrote:mrmonkey wrote:I still think the first Bayformers is the worst of the 3.
What a relief. I thought I was the only one. The entire movie is nothing but humans running around doing nothing but aimless ****, while we await the Autbot's arrival only halfway through the movie, and when they finally get here... all they do is stand around in the background as humans do even more aimless ****, until the last 10 minutes when they actually start fighting... in the background while Sam runs around a city. Plus, the fight scenes that it does have are so shaky, I can still barely tell what's going on. I truly cannot understand how people can like the first movie and not ROTF and DOTM.
mrmonkey wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:mrmonkey wrote:I still think the first Bayformers is the worst of the 3.
What a relief. I thought I was the only one. The entire movie is nothing but humans running around doing nothing but aimless ****, while we await the Autbot's arrival only halfway through the movie, and when they finally get here... all they do is stand around in the background as humans do even more aimless ****, until the last 10 minutes when they actually start fighting... in the background while Sam runs around a city. Plus, the fight scenes that it does have are so shaky, I can still barely tell what's going on. I truly cannot understand how people can like the first movie and not ROTF and DOTM.
Yeah, same here. All the movies have their issues, but at least the sequels aren't 80% filler.
PrymeStriker wrote:Slashercon wrote:the fact that as a film itself, you can't really enjoy it unless you had previously watched the cartoon, Optimus' death (how it happened, why it happened) etc.
That's not entirely true. When the 20th anniversary DVD came out, I had watched the Transformers Movie and had no idea the cartoon existed, and I still thoroughly enjoyed it for its character development and plot, especially the latter's deviation from the cartoon's light and cheesy tone.
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