Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
Posted by Sabrblade Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:25 pm
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers:_The_Last_Knight_App_timeline/src
After reading through it, it draws heavily from the Aligned continuity and IDW G1, but also blatantly contradicts a good deal of backstory detail that was given in ROTF and DOTM.
Like, it claims that Sentinel Prime was assassinated in Iacon by the Decepticons on Cybertron, mentioning nothing about him and the Ark crash-landing on Earth's moon. And it claims that Optimus inherited the Matrix on Cybertron instead of the Primes hiding it from The Fallen on Earth. No master/apprentice relationship between Megatron and The Fallen is established, either.
Oh, and just for full clarity's sake, any and all events from the IDW movie comics and novels are likewise omitted/contradicted, but this was to be expected.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
Posted by Insurgent Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:36 am
That article looks poorly written. I'll wait for Mcfeely to come and fix it all.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
Posted by Sabrblade Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:41 am
Blame everything else that used the Thirteen outside of the movies. Or blame ROTF for going against the norm in the first place, as somewhere along the production there were supposed to be 13 in that movie before it was changed to 7.Insurgent wrote:The movies only had 7 Original Primes, not 13. Why does everyone forget that?
I added a cleanup template at the top to address all the typos, but as that page is a Source Material page, it must accurately reflect the text transcribed from the app.Insurgent wrote:That article looks poorly written. I'll wait for Mcfeely to come and fix it all.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
Posted by Insurgent Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:03 am
Source material? But... It's for the movie timeline an it's all wrong. It says the ark crashed on earth with bots and cons ala g1 continuity. Among many..... MANY other errors for the movie timeline. By all means say that's what the app says, but should have a disclaimer at the start that it doesn't match what is shown on screen
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
Posted by Sabrblade Sun Nov 05, 2017 9:06 am
The Thirteen concept came about in 2004.Insurgent wrote:Which came first? The concept of the thirteen or rotf?
It's the app that should have that disclaimer. This Wiki page is just a mirroring of the app's text (typos and all), just like all its other Source Material pages.Insurgent wrote:Source material? But... It's for the movie timeline an it's all wrong. It says the ark crashed on earth with bots and cons ala g1 continuity. Among many..... MANY other errors for the movie timeline. By all means say that's what the app says, but should have a disclaimer at the start that it doesn't match what is shown on screen
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New Transformers: The Last Knight Concept Images from Furio Tedeschi and James Paick
Posted by Bounti76 Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:30 am
In initial concepts such as this, Hot Rod is heavily based on Lockdown- being that they shared Lamborghini altmodes (though not of the same model, obviously), it was a good starting point. The image below shows us that Hot Rod originally had the name "Sidekick", or at least was referred to as a "sidekick". Either way, his body is quite similar to Lockdown's, with the various bits of Hot Rod's Lamborghini Centenario altmode incorporated into the concept. We can also see that his concept feet are also similar to Lockdown's, and given that Lockdown's toy was heavily retooled into Hot Rod's, it was easy enough to keep those without straying too far from the original.

Of special interest is the concept's head, shown below, which is a modified version of Lockdown's night vision helmet.

Now, from James Paick, we have an image of a Cybertronian ship of some sort-whether a piloted ship or perhaps a concept for a Transformer altmode isn't clear- but it is pretty sweet looking.

And finally, also from Mr. Paick, we have concept art of everyone's favorite warlord burning a human town to the ground- vestiges of which likely survived into the final movie as the "abandoned" town that Cade and the Autobots set their trap in and battled Megatron's crew.

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
Posted by Stuartmaximus Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:41 am
please ignore my post(most of you do anyway)
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
Posted by Stuartmaximus Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:03 am

y'know it's weird? coz had all these concepts been used in the film...we might've got a half decent movie out of it, instead of what they went with
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
Posted by Qwan Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:33 am
Stuartmaximus wrote:actually two Cybertronian ships(one in the background, but of the same type)
y'know it's weird? coz had all these concepts been used in the film...we might've got a half decent movie out of it, instead of what they went with
I dunno, I personally feel like adding more stuff to TLK would've been the exact wrong direction to go with it. I found the movie insanely overcrowded already in terms of plot points, characters, and design. (Hey they're knights! Also Optimus is evil! New Suicide Squad Decepticons that immediately live up to their name! French robot! Mark Wahlberg is the last whatever! Bumblebee can't talk but now he can! Transformers were created by a shiny metal lady who wants to kill Earth! By the way Earth is Unicron! ...etcetera.)
If there's one thing these movies tend to do right already, it's their stunning visual effects. Not always effects that convey any kind of narrative, nor even necessarily ones that have anything to do with the accepted aesthetic of Transformers as a whole, but stunning nonetheless. I totally agree that it would've been cool to see some of these in fully-rendered "live-action" motion, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it would've been beneficial to the overall quality of The Last Knight.
Besides, we all know that had these concepts been in the movie after all, they would've shown up for 3 frames before being engulfed in pyrotechnic insanity

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
Posted by Stuartmaximus Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:53 am
Bumblebee did talk...kinda? was it not in the first one
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
Posted by Qwan Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:09 am
Stuartmaximus wrote:Optimus was evil in the previous one! by wanting to kill people
Bumblebee did talk...kinda? was it not in the first one
You remember correctly, Bumblebee totally talked in the first movie, and I always thought it was implied that he simply chose not to in the following movies. Of course as we're all well aware by this point the Transformers movies play very fast and loose with the idea of canon, or continuity between films, heck, even continuity within films seems like it's pushing the boundaries of what can be expected (still looking at you TLK).
Regardless, those events occurring in previous movies doesn't change the fact that they happened again in this one - and they're arguably even more egregious for it. I stand by my assessment that TLK had waaaay too much going on, even if some of it was semi-familiar.

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
Posted by Deadput Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:21 am
Stuartmaximus wrote:Optimus was evil in the previous one! by wanting to kill people
One god damn person who was pretty much leading military teams to slaughter Autobots.
He also did not end up killing any human out of vengeance and the guy he did was to save Cade while he was also at the time fighting Lockdown.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
Posted by Bronzewolf Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:36 pm
Also, what was the point of the baby Dinobots? It's never explained how they got there (did the bigger Dinobots reproduce? That just opens a whole new can of worms), and they don't have any big pay off moment where they're important later on in the movie. You can't even say they were a BB-8-style cashgrab for the "Cute" characters because they didn't make any fricking merchandise for them! No toys, no plush, nothing. Urgghhh.
I really dislike this movie.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
Posted by Sabrblade Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:20 pm
Preach it!Bronzewolf wrote:So I finally saw TLK a couple weeks ago when it came out on DVD, and what an awful film. It's excruciatingly long, but it doesn't feel like it goes anywhere. It's just a bunch of scenes sewn together that don't have enough of an over-arching storyline to hold on to.
Also, what was the point of the baby Dinobots? It's never explained how they got there (did the bigger Dinobots reproduce? That just opens a whole new can of worms), and they don't have any big pay off moment where they're important later on in the movie. You can't even say they were a BB-8-style cashgrab for the "Cute" characters because they didn't make any fricking merchandise for them! No toys, no plush, nothing. Urgghhh.
I really dislike this movie.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
Posted by TulioDude Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:34 am
Deadput wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:Optimus was evil in the previous one! by wanting to kill people
One god damn person who was pretty much leading military teams to slaughter Autobots.
He also did not end up killing any human out of vengeance and the guy he did was to save Cade while he was also at the time fighting Lockdown.

fruityrobo wrote:the cybertronian ship kinda reminds me of the alt mode of Megatron in Transformers Prime. The wings and even the block gun thing i think in the middle. but then there is a second one so it throws the thought out the window
True,but I like the jet mode we've gotten
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
Posted by Sabrblade Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:38 am

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Takara Tomy Promoting Transformers: The Last Knight and Merchandise at Tokyo Comic Con 2017
Posted by Va'al Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:25 am
Before you think of exclusive toys, the merchandise is entirely non-toy based, and features the likes of keychains, apparel, clothing, battery packs, and the sorts, all of which can be found in the images mirrored below. Pricing is as follows, and includes Japanese Tax:
Battery pack - 550 Yen (5 USD)
Acrylic Keychain (Optimus Prime, Sqweeks, Megatron, Bumblebee) - 1100 Yen (10 USD)
Acrylic Carabiner (Seibertron, Destron) - 1500 Yen (13 USD)
Aluminium keyholder (Seibertron, Destron) - 850 Yen (7,50 USD)
Oval keyholder (Seibertron, Destron) - 850 Yen (7,50 USD)
Temuguri (Japanese wash cloth) - 1600 Yen (14 USD)
T-shirts (various designs) - 4500 Yen (40 USD)
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
Posted by DeathReviews Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:55 am
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
Posted by Va'al Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:09 am
DeathReviews wrote:It's a little late to be 'promoting' TLK isn't it? The movie went in and out of theaters, and it's been on DVD for a few weeks. Seems to me the ship set sail a long time ago. Unless of course, they're trying to lure people into buying all the TLK figures that they made too much of...
It's not out in Japan until December 13.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
Posted by Emerje Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:34 pm
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
Posted by Nexus Knight Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:22 pm
Everything Wrong With Transformers The Last Knight
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