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[Shocked]

Well this is my 1st post here.

I saw AOE today and I am not sure what to think of it. For the most part I liked it, and will probably buy it in one form or another when it comes out. I would probably had enjoyed it more if the theater had better seats, and the guy next to me wasn't checking Facebook every 5 minutes. There were only 20 people or so, and him and his woman sits right next to me and my wife.

So far I like it here, and I hope to post more

[VirusCarnage]

I personally think that people hate the TF movies because it's 'cool' to hate them and because critics like to crap on Michael Bay.

On a more positive note AoE is #1 on the 2014 Box Office charts!

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/cha ... 014&p=.htm

[Shocked]

I personally think that people hate the TF movies because it's 'cool' to hate them and because critics like to crap on Michael Bay.

On a more positive not AoE is #1 on the 2014 Box Office charts!

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/cha ... 014&p=.htm

I agree too. I know once I see it again it will grow on me, watch it over and over, and have my wife get sick of me lol

[Sub-Prime]

Wow!!! In 17 days Transformers 4 has overtaked every single movie for 2014! What's even funny is the movie has another month and a half to go! I know this will make the haters real mad and I love to see their anger control them..lol

[Sub-Prime]

Another thing I find interesting is that with so much hate this franchise has endured and with 4 movies it has generated 3.4 Billion dollars and counting, you have to wonder if the movie was made by someone the critics loved would it hit 4 Billion plus for 4 movies.

[SlyTF1]

I personally think that people hate the TF movies because it's 'cool' to hate them and because critics like to crap on Michael Bay.

On a more positive not AoE is #1 on the 2014 Box Office charts!

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/cha ... 014&p=.htm

That's exactly what it is. Especially with AOE. It fixed everything that everyone complained about with the first 3, and they still love to attack it. All they ever say is that it's "long and loud." And the people who have tried to explain why the movie was "dumb" or "stupid," I've been able to disprove them. None of them ever said a word back to me about it. Even a professional.

[Shocked]

Not sure if this was talked about, but what happened to the main humans from the last 3 movies?

[Burn]

I personally think that people hate the TF movies because it's 'cool' to hate them and because critics like to crap on Michael Bay.

On a more positive not AoE is #1 on the 2014 Box Office charts!

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/cha ... 014&p=.htm

That's exactly what it is. Especially with AOE. It fixed everything that everyone complained about with the first 3, and they still love to attack it. All they ever say is that it's "long and loud." And the people who have tried to explain why the movie was "dumb" or "stupid," I've been able to disprove them. None of them ever said a word back to me about it. Even a professional.

It was too long.

[SlyTF1]

Not sure if this was talked about, but what happened to the main humans from the last 3 movies?

They probably got killed.

I personally think that people hate the TF movies because it's 'cool' to hate them and because critics like to crap on Michael Bay.

On a more positive not AoE is #1 on the 2014 Box Office charts!

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/cha ... 014&p=.htm

That's exactly what it is. Especially with AOE. It fixed everything that everyone complained about with the first 3, and they still love to attack it. All they ever say is that it's "long and loud." And the people who have tried to explain why the movie was "dumb" or "stupid," I've been able to disprove them. None of them ever said a word back to me about it. Even a professional.

It was too long.

If you ask me, it wasn't long enough.

[Sub-Prime]

I felt it could've been 10 minutes more longer at best to try to give a little more explanation on certain plot points to the people that can't read between the lines.

[Evil_the_Nub]

I personally think that people hate the TF movies because it's 'cool' to hate them and because critics like to crap on Michael Bay.

On a more positive not AoE is #1 on the 2014 Box Office charts!

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/cha ... 014&p=.htm

That's exactly what it is. Especially with AOE. It fixed everything that everyone complained about with the first 3, and they still love to attack it. All they ever say is that it's "long and loud." And the people who have tried to explain why the movie was "dumb" or "stupid," I've been able to disprove them. None of them ever said a word back to me about it. Even a professional.

It was too long.

The Lord of the Rings movies are just as long, if not longer, and they're some of the most highly praised movies of all time. Gone with the Wind is even longer. Why do the critics suddenly have a problem with a movie being too long?

It's been this way since the first movie, everything they complain about there's a movie out there that's far worse, but higher rated. They don't like the humor, but loved Ted. They don't like the shaky came, but Cloverfield was good. Some things they complain about just don't make any logical sense. Like too much action, in an action movie? That's like giving a comedy a bad review because it's too funny.

It's just a bunch of high school level social circle bullshit. Michael Bay is the most popular guy in school and the critics are the nerds in the AV club who just can't stand him for no real reason.

[Sub-Prime]

I personally think that people hate the TF movies because it's 'cool' to hate them and because critics like to crap on Michael Bay.

On a more positive not AoE is #1 on the 2014 Box Office charts!

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/cha ... 014&p=.htm

That's exactly what it is. Especially with AOE. It fixed everything that everyone complained about with the first 3, and they still love to attack it. All they ever say is that it's "long and loud." And the people who have tried to explain why the movie was "dumb" or "stupid," I've been able to disprove them. None of them ever said a word back to me about it. Even a professional.

It was too long.

The Lord of the Rings movies are just as long, if not longer, and they're some of the most highly praised movies of all time. Gone with the Wind is even longer. Why do the critics suddenly have a problem with a movie being too long?

It's been this way since the first movie, everything they complain about there's a movie out there that's far worse, but higher rated. They don't like the humor, but loved Ted. They don't like the shaky came, but Cloverfield was good. Some things they complain about just don't make any logical sense. Like too much action, in an action movie? That's like giving a comedy a bad review because it's too funny.

It's just a bunch of high school level social circle bullshit. Michael Bay is the most popular guy in school and the critics are the nerds in the AV club who just can't stand him for no real reason.

My favorite post! I'm glad some folks have seen the critics BS that I have noticed for a while.

[SKYWARPED_128]

I personally don't think the runtime was too long. Well, it really depends on the movie. Many years ago when I was watching Revenge of the Sith, I kept staring at my watch waiting for the finale, and wishing I could fast-forward through Hayden Christensen's "acting" like I could with a DVD. Same thing with ROTF.

That didn't happen with AOE. Whatever it was, it certainly wasn't boring.

They'd better fully explain the knights thing in TF5, though.

[Sub-Prime]

Let me see if I can find a few of them that critics bitch about.

1. Micheal Bay showed ass shots in TF films? Ok we're not gonna talk about how Avengers had a nice as shot of Black Widow that wasn't mentioned as a negative.

2. Micheal Bay likes pretty women in his movies only? So every chick in other movies are all down right ugly then.

3. Women wear skimpy stuff in his movies? A lot of women wear skimpy stuff in real life and in other movies that the same critics don't complain about.

4. All I see is explosions!explosions! and too much destruction? Why yes of course the Transformers aren't regular men fighting martial arts. They are big giant robots with futuristic weaponry for fighting.

5. Incoherent plot? Yet numerous folks understood what was going on.

6. Unlikable characters? I actually liked Cade, Harold,Joshua,Tessa and Savoy's characters. 5/6 main characters.

7.Micheal Bay believes in statutory rape? Smdh with this one.

8. The dialogue is terrible? Not every character is gonna speak like a super intelligent character.

9. Micheal Bay is racist? Just because a character is called Lucky Charms it makes him racist. How about Cade just having a weird sense of humor? He plays a character with a bad temper. He is also a very angry dad in this so I could see him being kind of f'd up to Shane.

10. In Transformers 2 the twins was considered racist robots for their words to Leo? The twins was obviously stupid bots who mirrored their mannerism through the world wide web . I understand that little kids are watching the movie and it might come across as vulgar. But let's be real these kids is going to learn hateful words irregardless and their parents probably already taught them it. I remember when Obama first ran for president and the things folks had their kids saying on TV about Obama was f'd up.

Society is just too sensitive about a lot of things.

[Sabrblade]

*sigh*

If it's not fans bashing Bay, it's fans bashing critics bashing Bay.

[SKYWARPED_128]

*sigh*

If it's not fans bashing Bay, it's fans bashing critics bashing Bay.

Nothing new, frankly. It's been happening since the first live-action movie.

[Sabrblade]

*sigh*

If it's not fans bashing Bay, it's fans bashing critics bashing Bay.

Nothing new, frankly. It's been happening since the first live-action movie.

One of the reasons I don't go to the movie section of the forum that often.

[SKYWARPED_128]

*sigh*

If it's not fans bashing Bay, it's fans bashing critics bashing Bay.

Nothing new, frankly. It's been happening since the first live-action movie.

One of the reasons I don't go to the movie section of the forum that often.

I don't either, but then my PS3 got the YLOD recently, and I got bored.

[Noideaforaname]

Honestly, why do people even care about the critics' opinions? Really I do not understand this bizarre obsession with relentlessly attacking these strawmen "haters" over and over instead of, y'know, just enjoying the film for what it is.


I don't necessarily mind the runtime of AoE, but it sure felt like it could've been split into 2 separate films: one for Lockdown and the Creators/Knights, a second for Galvatron and KSI.

[Burn]

Honestly, why do people even care about the critics' opinions?

Some people like to be told what to think? I dunno.

I may listen to the opinions of others, but even if I'm warned not to watch a movie I'll still watch it anyway out of morbid curiosity.

E.g. Sharknado.

[Autobot032]

Thanks to Seibertron.com member VirusCarnage we have a link showing that not only is Age Of Extinction the biggest film of the year (so far, Apes or Guardians could take first place), but it did it in 2.4 weeks! That beats the previous 2014 record holder, X-Men: Days Of Future Past, by $21,158,000 and 5 weeks! For awhile there, we had some good news and some semi- bad news when it came to the box office, because domestic numbers are still down, but they're getting better. The film's close to breaking even with it's domestic total currently at $209,031,000, which is very close to the $210 million it cost to make it. If nothing else, it'll at least break even domestically, which won't make it a total dud here. This also doesn't account for the impending home video sales that'll be coming this fall.

To see this year's chart, click here: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/cha ... 014&p=.htm

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[Slashercon]

It scored lower than ROTF on Rotten Tomatoes, the guys who only like The Godfather II and Amelie.

Rotten Tomatoes gave X-Men Days of Future Past a 92% rating; they gave the Matrix an 87%. Just because someone doesn't like the Michael Bay Transformers movies doesn't mean that they don't enjoy sci-fi/action movies.

Take me for instance. I like Star Wars, Pacific Rim, Aliens, Robocop, Terminator, Predator, the Matrix, the Avengers, Iron Man, and Batman Begins. However, I can't stand the live-action Transformers movies. To me, they have sporadic moments of entertaining action and cool-looking robots, but for the most part I just find them to be unbearable. All of those other movies I mentioned, I can watch from start to finish and enjoy them in their entirety. On the rare occasions where I watch one of the Transformers films, I pretty much have to skip about 75% of each movie.

Love all the movies you mentioned with the exceptions of Pacific Rim (it was just okay for me) , Robobcop and The Matrix only because I haven't seen them (yet). You also make very valid points on people liking action oriented movies that aren't the live action movies.

[Slashercon]

Let me see if I can find a few of them that critics bitch about.

1. Micheal Bay showed ass shots in TF films? Ok we're not gonna talk about how Avengers had a nice as shot of Black Widow that wasn't mentioned as a negative.

The shot wasn't in advertising lol. Not only that, but I can't even remember what scene it was where as with the Transformers films, I can sadly recall several times where I've seen these shots.

2. Micheal Bay likes pretty women in his movies only? So every chick in other movies are all down right ugly then.

There's only maybe 2-3 "pretty women" in these movies. I don't get it.

3. Women wear skimpy stuff in his movies? A lot of women wear skimpy stuff in real life and in other movies that the same critics don't complain about.

This is just petty. Half agree here.

4. All I see is explosions!explosions! and too much destruction? Why yes of course the Transformers aren't regular men fighting martial arts. They are big giant robots with futuristic weaponry for fighting.

Honestly, James Cameron seems to have more explosions in his films than Bay (IMO of course). Then again, I like Cameron's films more-so than Bay's. Pacific Rim had bigger robots and still had seemingly less explosions though.

5. Incoherent plot? Yet numerous folks understood what was going on.

Point for you. People often only think of movies via trailers and clips without actually watching them in their entirety. They make assumptions.

6. Unlikable characters? I actually liked Cade, Harold,Joshua,Tessa and Savoy's characters. 5/6 main characters.

N/A for me.

7.Micheal Bay believes in statutory rape? Smdh with this one.

I've never even heard of this complaint before.

8. The dialogue is terrible? Not every character is gonna speak like a super intelligent character.

Often characters will speak as in previous directors' works. There's "Bay-talk", "Whedon-talk", "Shyamalan-talk" (the worst of the bunch), etc.

9. Micheal Bay is racist? Just because a character is called Lucky Charms it makes him racist. How about Cade just having a weird sense of humor? He plays a character with a bad temper. He is also a very angry dad in this so I could see him being kind of f'd up to Shane.

Bay clearly isn't racist, otherwise he wouldn't keep making movies with diverse casts in them.

10. In Transformers 2 the twins was considered racist robots for their words to Leo? The twins was obviously stupid bots who mirrored their mannerism through the world wide web . I understand that little kids are watching the movie and it might come across as vulgar. But let's be real these kids is going to learn hateful words irregardless and their parents probably already taught them it. I remember when Obama first ran for president and the things folks had their kids saying on TV about Obama was f'd up.

Um, ok then. Agreed for the www part.

Society is just too sensitive about a lot of things.[/quote] Including negativity.

[Clunker]

There was a shot near the beginning where it was the dad talking to his daughter and all you saw was the daughters in short shorts and her tanned legs, it was like trying to redo the whole megan fox scene where she's leaning over bumblebee's engine all over again.

[Slashercon]

I personally think that people hate the TF movies because it's 'cool' to hate them and because critics like to crap on Michael Bay.

On a more positive not AoE is #1 on the 2014 Box Office charts!

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/cha ... 014&p=.htm

That's exactly what it is. Especially with AOE. It fixed everything that everyone complained about with the first 3, and they still love to attack it. All they ever say is that it's "long and loud." And the people who have tried to explain why the movie was "dumb" or "stupid," I've been able to disprove them. None of them ever said a word back to me about it. Even a professional.

It was too long.

The Lord of the Rings movies are just as long, if not longer, and they're some of the most highly praised movies of all time. Gone with the Wind is even longer. Why do the critics suddenly have a problem with a movie being too long?

It's been this way since the first movie, everything they complain about there's a movie out there that's far worse, but higher rated. They don't like the humor, but loved Ted. They don't like the shaky came, but Cloverfield was good. Some things they complain about just don't make any logical sense. Like too much action, in an action movie? That's like giving a comedy a bad review because it's too funny.

It's just a bunch of high school level social circle bullshit. Michael Bay is the most popular guy in school and the critics are the nerds in the AV club who just can't stand him for no real reason.

My favorite post! I'm glad some folks have seen the critics BS that I have noticed for a while.

I"m going to be the odd one here.
1. The Lord of The Rings warranted a long run time due to everything in those movies actually being important to the story and characters as well as epic battles. I can't speak about AOE, but for DOTM, that movie definitely felt a tad long to me. Not because of its running time, but because it was trying my patience. Some scenes were pointless, unnecessary and the scenes I would like the makers to focus on weren't. The ending was the biggest offender. No aftermath at all. Just a sudden stop. Reminds me of that terrible Halloween remake by Rob Zombie. I would prefer a movie to focus on the important aspects first and foremost.
2. What works/doesn't work for one movie may or not necessarily work for another. For example, Saving Private Ryan also utilized a shaky cam effect but it was used to better effect there to put emphasis on the horrors of war. Whereas an action film that focus on running and hand to hand fights is instantly muted by the shaky cam. If a film has great choreography, it won't be fully appreciated when you can see the action clearly.
3. Ted is a raunchy comedy whose target audience is purposely for those who enjoy that kind of humor, while the Transformers films are meant to reach a broader demographic. Not everyone is going to go into a movie and enjoy the brand of humor presented.
4. An action film CAN have too much action. More and more action =/= a good movie. Your argument is very illogical as a comedy can't theoretically be "too funny". It can however have too many jokes and slapstick, which can or cannot work depending on how humorous it may be.
5. More often then not, I find the high school "social circle" stereotype to be the nerds wanting to BE the most popular guy.

My two cents.