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[blackeyedprime]

Out of the WFC figures I think I've lucked out and only Springer might have been a waste of money depending on the studio series figure and that it has some more room to be g1 accurate in a furture update.

Has there been a leak or rumor about SS 86 Springer? Because as G1 Springer is one of the few Transformers from the cartoon and movie who has a Cybertronian alt mode. And therefore SIEGE Springer is already pretty G1 accurate. I could only think of a redeco without the battle damage.

Yep, rumour is just a straight up repaint of Siege so the shoulders in bot mode and copter wing placement etc etc will still be wrong.

Has any figure been truly 100% correct, to all variant designs at once?

Probably not, even the third partys have had mixed attempts at cartoon springer (at varying sizes too) but a few stand out being more accurate than hasbros. At least hasbros thrilling 30 Springer was pretty good along with their non cartoon non tripple changing Springers. So there is still hope for a more accurate toon version yet, if not I have the hero masher...j/k

[william-james88]

We received from a source wishing to remain anonymous a full wave breakdown of the toys coming out in Transformers War for Cybertron Kingdom. None of these should be new but we now get to see when they will be coming out and most important of all, which beasts will be at the tail end (pun intended). What some may find noteworthy is the absence of certain characters. Everyone who has seen the lineup confirms there is no Terrorsaur or beast Inferno coming in the 2021 line. Hopefully if this sells well, we get more beasts, including those. We also have rumours for the Generations selects toys coming out next year.

So, here is the line up beyond wave 1:

Wave 2 Due on Shelves April-June

Core: Megatron, Starscream
Deluxe: Airazor, Ractonite, Huffer, Arcee (repack)
Voyager: Inferno (G1), Dinobot
Leader: Ultra Magnus

Wave 3 Due on Shelves July-September

Core: Dracodon, Soundwave
Deluxe: Tracks, Wingfinger, Scorponok, Wheeljack (repack)
Voyager: Rhinox
Leader: Galvatron

Wave 4 Due on Shelves October-December

Deluxe: Waspinator, Pipes, Shadow Panther, Slammer
Voyager: Tigatron, Starscream (rapack)


The Commander is said to be Rodimus Prime (voyager sized bot with trailer that turns into weapon platform)

The Titan is the ark, which you can see in the poster below.

Generations Selects: Deep Cover, Transmutate, G2 Ramjet, Artfire, Galvatron in toy colours

[william-james88]

But infos like yours and the ones below summarized as a little intermediate summary/preliminary result would be worthy of a news post on the main page (to me at least). Just to keep the type of fans, who are not constantly watching every possible forum for tidbits of news, up to date.

The thing is, news can only be news'd if it's from an official source. As reliable as these leakers have been, they are not official and actually go against Hasbro's wishes by giving away info that Hasbro doesn't want out yet until they themselves announce it.

Eh, I'll make you all happy and write the possible rumour of Rodimus in the latest post I news. I don't see the harm it could do. Also, I thought we did news Rodimus but I checked and turns out we didn't since he was TBA at the time of my previous rundown.

[o.supreme]

I really hope the Rodimus CC rumor is false. After all, for Siege and ER. Voyager+ accessories= Leader, not CC. There are so many other bots that would make a great CC toy.

[bacem]

The Commander is said to be Rodimus Prime (voyager sized bot with trailer that turns into weapon platform)

The Titan is the ark, which you can see in the poster below.

Generations Selects: Deep Cover, Transmutate, G2 Ramjet, Artfire, Galvatron in toy colours

I've heard the rodimus rumor several times by now, but until i saw official image or official announcement by hasbro, i still gonna wait n see, because i still cannot imagine how many accsessories did they have to include to make him believable on a commander class range, considering the robot itself is just voyager sized, which means even with inclusion of trailer and several accessories, it will still only puts him on leader class range, at most.

As for selects, i can already see what mold everyone will be based of, except transmutate. I imagine she will be fembot, but can't figure out which fembot mold will be used yet.

[Hellscream9999]

The Commander is said to be Rodimus Prime (voyager sized bot with trailer that turns into weapon platform)

The Titan is the ark, which you can see in the poster below.

Generations Selects: Deep Cover, Transmutate, G2 Ramjet, Artfire, Galvatron in toy colours

I've heard the rodimus rumor several times by now, but until i saw official image or official announcement by hasbro, i still gonna wait n see, because i still cannot imagine how many accsessories did they have to include to make him believable on a commander class range, considering the robot itself is just voyager sized, which means even with inclusion of trailer and several accessories, it will still only puts him on leader class range, at most.

As for selects, i can already see what mold everyone will be based of, except transmutate. I imagine she will be fembot, but can't figure out which fembot mold will be used yet.

It was said that she uses one of the skeleton dino molds I believe

[Sabrblade]

Rodimus Prime was one of the first figures rumored back when the earliest Kingdom leaks came about, even before any of the size classes were revealed.

His being the Commander class figure became a process of elimination after all of the Voyager and Leader leaks were revealed.

The Voyager class is taken up by seven figures: Optimus Primal, Cyclonus, G1 Inferno, Dinobot, Rhinox, Tigatron, and a repackaged reissue of Earthrise Starscream.

The Leader class is taken up by four figures: BW Megatron, G1 Galvatron, G1 Ultra Magnus, and a repackaged reissue of Earthrise Optimus Prime.

There is no other place for Rodimus Prime (who was revealed before almost all of the above) to go besides the Commander class.

Plus, the Commander class would allow for Rodimus's trailer to be full size instead of the shrunken down trailer size that Earthrise Leader Optimus got. And a Takara Selects redeco of this Rodimus could yield us this Primus:

[Lunatic Prime]

I really hope the Rodimus CC rumor is false.
There are so many other bots that would make a great CC toy.

I totally agree with you on these two.

After all, for Siege and ER. Voyager+ accessories= Leader, not CC.

If he'll be a Commander class he needs to have a better trailer than Leader class would allow him to have.I imagine a way improved realization of the concept of PotP Rodimus Prime. With a crap ton of accessories of course.
As already rumored the trailer having a battle station mode and becoming an armor to evolve Hot Rod into Rodimus Prime. But there's word that his alt mode with the trailer detached won't look that good:

[...]; it's not the best looking on its own, but it at least doesn't blatantly look like literally half of a vehicle.

The Commander is said to be Rodimus Prime (voyager sized bot with trailer that turns into weapon platform)

The Titan is the ark, which you can see in the poster below.

Generations Selects: Deep Cover, Transmutate, G2 Ramjet, Artfire, Galvatron in toy colours

I've heard the rodimus rumor several times by now, but until i saw official image or official announcement by hasbro, i still gonna wait n see, because i still cannot imagine how many accsessories did they have to include to make him believable on a commander class range, considering the robot itself is just voyager sized, which means even with inclusion of trailer and several accessories, it will still only puts him on leader class range, at most.

As for selects, i can already see what mold everyone will be based of, except transmutate. I imagine she will be fembot, but can't figure out which fembot mold will be used yet.

It was said that she uses one of the skeleton dino molds I believe

I read that she'll be a redeco of one the Deluxe class Fossilizer figures in one of the rumor news posts, too.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

I have mixed feelings about the Commander Class Rodimus Prime rumor.
On the one hand, there are other characters I think could use the Commander size more, like Overlord and Ultra Magnus (the latter because there is no chance in hell a post-DOTM Leader can hold 4 Deluxe cars) and Roddy's camper shell battle platform is light enough that they might have been able to get away with making him a Leader, especially with a true-to-G1 cab robot.

But at the same time, they might not have. SIEGE Magnus' inner robot is only Voyager-height by WFC standards. And Shockwave and Astrotrain are similarly-short. WFC Voyagers come up a bit short compared to, say, Prime Wars voyagers (it's why I prefer CW Optimus to either SIEGE or ER).
And the thing about Rodimus Prime is that he needs to be on par with Galvatron height-wise. Since Galvy is a Leader, he's probably going to be as tall as the TR version if not taller. So Rodimus might need the extra mass to match.


On a different note, I'm looking forward to getting smol Optimus Prime. He'll be good for scaling with standard CW combiners and citybot Titan-class figures. I don't think he works as well with Devy and Omega since they were designed to be Omega's full size and Devy's mass-shifted size relative to normal figures.

[Lucky Logician]

I like this list. I could see this list being true.

BUUUUTTTTTTTT....... Polar Claw is in the picture. Polar Claw is not on the list.

[Pax XilThalon]

Anyone else disappointed that there seems to be no Gears in this lineup? We get the art.

[shadowapook]

Kinna bummed there doesnt appear to be a Road Rage retool of Tracks. If the Commander Class Rodimus is basically a Leader Class with extra accessories I'd be fine with that. I don't like Rodimus being too big. Just a personal preference.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

I like this list. I could see this list being true.

BUUUUTTTTTTTT....... Polar Claw is in the picture. Polar Claw is not on the list.

The poster also has Cyclonus as his G1 toy, Waspinator as his T30 toy, and Wheeljack, Tracks, Cheetor, Ultra Magnus, and possibly Inferno as their Masterpiece toys. The poster may not be 100% reliable.

[Emerje]

I like this list. I could see this list being true.

BUUUUTTTTTTTT....... Polar Claw is in the picture. Polar Claw is not on the list.

Anyone else disappointed that there seems to be no Gears in this lineup? We get the art.

Word is that Polar Claw and Gears were canceled due to budget issues.

Kinna bummed there doesnt appear to be a Road Rage retool of Tracks.

Rumors say Road Rage and Loud Pedal are coming as exclusives.

Emerje

[Jeddostotle7]

Anyone else disappointed that there seems to be no Gears in this lineup? We get the art.

I like this list. I could see this list being true.

BUUUUTTTTTTTT....... Polar Claw is in the picture. Polar Claw is not on the list.

I know it wasn't posted here, but we've known for some time thanks to the leakers over on TFW that Gears and Polar Claw were originally planned to be in the line, but got bumped.

[Mohtrek]

Here's hoping for a Kingdom Selects SG Megatron

[chuckdawg1999]

I really hope the Rodimus CC rumor is false. After all, for Siege and ER. Voyager+ accessories= Leader, not CC. There are so many other bots that would make a great CC toy.

I can't wait for the day that Micromasters or Core Class are sold as Commander Figures.

[o.supreme]

I really hope the Rodimus CC rumor is false. After all, for Siege and ER. Voyager+ accessories= Leader, not CC. There are so many other bots that would make a great CC toy.

I can't wait for the day that Micromasters or Core Class are sold as Commander Figures.

Coming in 2022 Commander Class Erector! A Micromaster with 15 accessories ( that also happen to be Micromasters)

[Sabrblade]

I really hope the Rodimus CC rumor is false. After all, for Siege and ER. Voyager+ accessories= Leader, not CC. There are so many other bots that would make a great CC toy.

I can't wait for the day that Micromasters or Core Class are sold as Commander Figures.

Coming in 2022 Commander Class Erector! A Micromaster with 15 accessories ( that also happen to be Micromasters)

He also turns into a beaver and combines with the Constructicons to form "the pants".

[ScottyP]

Anyone else disappointed that there seems to be no Gears in this lineup? We get the art.

I like this list. I could see this list being true.

BUUUUTTTTTTTT....... Polar Claw is in the picture. Polar Claw is not on the list.

I know it wasn't posted here, but we've known for some time thanks to the leakers over on TFW that Gears and Polar Claw were originally planned to be in the line, but got bumped.

Would really like to see both end up in the next line if that's the case. Not holding my breath for more Beast Wars (repaints aside) until '22 or '23 though, it's clear as day that Kingdom's testing the waters rather than serving as a true revival so there's gonna be lag time even if its beasts do sell well.

[william-james88]

I like this list. I could see this list being true.

BUUUUTTTTTTTT....... Polar Claw is in the picture. Polar Claw is not on the list.

The poster is preliminary art, done even before the toys are fully designed. It's how the line is pitched and then they choose who they keep and who they cut. If it's not on the lust, then it was cut.

[Bounti76]

Who the scrap is "Wingfinger"?

[Jeddostotle7]

Who the scrap is "Wingfinger"?

A Fossilizer, iirc one who was some kind of pterosaur.

[Autobot N]

Who the scrap is "Wingfinger"?

Pteranodon Fossilizer

[Tranzilla]

Who the scrap is "Wingfinger"?

The word comes from the Latin Pterodactylus, the creatures' genus name, which originated in the Greek pteron, meaning “wing,” and daktulos, meaning “finger.”

Most likely this will be a Fossilizer, but I'm still hoping for it to be a placeholder for Terrorsaur. Mainly because I also want Lazorbeak/Hydrar and Fractyl repaints.