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Postby william-james88 » Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:17 pm

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While no direct sources can be given, we wanted to let you all in on the latest Transformers toys rumour. The last reissue we got of an older toy was Blaster, and since then fans have been wondering what's next. Well, two different sources have brought up reissues of figures from the 90s, with further clarification from one source that these would be the Beast Wars Transmetal figures.
If the rumours are true, these should be coming out later this year. With the Kingdom line giving us most of the Beast Wars season 1 bots, many were wondering if Hasbro would redo the Transmetals next and the point that always comes up is that those toys still hold up. They are show accurate (unlike most of the season 1 toys) and have articulation/complexity that would satisfy fans today. Reissues may be easier than redoing them completely in this case.
While first coming out in the mid 90s, the last time these molds were used was in the Armada line. All I can think of right now is the prospect of finally having a Transmetal Megatron that won't crumble in my hands. Let us know what you think, and of course please remember, this is just a rumour.

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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Transmetal Figures Rumoured for Reissue

Postby TulioDude » Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:36 pm

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Hopefully this is true,especially for Transmetal Megatron.
Maybe even this eventually lead to other lines getting reissues!

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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Transmetal Figures Rumoured for Reissue

Postby Emerje » Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:56 pm

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I would love to see some of the GPS prone figures get reissued for sure. I don't dare to touch my TM Megatron or Torca for fear of breaking, and my Magnaboss Silverbolt crumbled in my hands only a few years ago. My Grimlock's legs started falling apart only a couple years after I got him, but he wont get reissued so I have to wait for the Dinobot repaint.

Likewise it would be nice to have some figures with good, non-flakey chrome.

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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Transmetal Figures Rumoured for Reissue

Postby Bumblevivisector » Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:25 am

Yeah, fix all the longevity issues they mentioned, and special attention to Rampage:
He's one of the most tragic cases of red-chrome flaking, I've heard reports of his legs inexplicably shattering, and those rubber treads you have to fold up into his claws then stretch around his wheel assembly ain't gonna' last forever either. Maybe they could even retool him so all his crab legs end up on his shoulder pads like on the show.

I haven't handled Magnaboss in years, but out of curiosity, do the Japanese and Korean releases of BWII Skywarp have GPS too?

At least with Transmetal Megs you have the Metals option. Since my rare-ish pinkish-purple-chrome variant broke, I've regretted not buying that Easter basket with the chrome-swap TM Primal vs. Megatron KO in Kmart 15+ years ago.
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Transmetal Figures Rumoured for Reissue

Postby Ultra Markus » Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:31 am

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i would like to see some transmetal 2 figures like optimal optimus and dragon megatron ;)
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Transmetal Figures Rumoured for Reissue

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:51 am

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The GPS and chrome flaking are big issues that dogged this line. If they are remedied then all is good. Also a couple of quality of life changes would help, but it is doubtful these would happen IE increasing the size of Terrorsaur's shoulder ball joints to cope with the extra weight of his arms.
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Transmetal Figures Rumoured for Reissue

Postby Munkky » Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:19 am

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If this happens, it'll likely just be kept to a small handful, Optimus, Megatron, Cheetor, Rattrap and Tarantulus. I can't see re-issues of Depth Charge or Rampage happening at any point unfortunately. While the Transmetaltoys I've had since I was seven are still in good shape and haven't had the GPS issues that I've heard about on here, re-issues would still be nice for those who don't have the originals.
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Transmetal Figures Rumoured for Reissue

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:23 am

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Megatron and Rampage were my only GPS casualties. Each losing a leg. In contrast, Tarantulas and Waspinator haven't even lost a flake of chrome. One of the pegs on Primal's forearm also snapped at some point in storage. I don't really feel the need to buy any of these again though, to be fair.
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Transmetal Figures Rumoured for Reissue

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:22 am

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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Transmetal Figures Rumoured for Reissue

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:30 am

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Thinking in broader terms this line isn't very big. Twelve figures (thirteen with OpOp). So maybe that was the rationale behind the potential reissues?
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Transmetal Figures Rumoured for Reissue

Postby Lunatic Prime » Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:27 am

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william-james88 wrote:All I can think of right now is the prospect of finally having a Transmetal Megatron that won't crumble in my hands.

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...this YES.
BUT Transmetals Megatron is pretty much the only Transmetals figure that needs a re-do for the new Generations Beast Wars figures as he is not in scale with what we have gotten so far and he hasn't been in scale with what we had gotten back then. I'm also curious if they will reissue all TM figures or only the ones that appeared in the show. I have gotten all of the old TM figures I wanted with Cheetor being the last one I got last year. The only other one I might still be interested is Airazor.
But especially some more foot articulation and accurate accessories for these figures would be nice.
And I really hope they remake the TM2 characters. I want a Voyager Dinobot 2 and maybe a Leader or even Commander class TM2 Megatron with a great robot mode to display next to my original TM2 Megs in dragon mode :michaelbay: .
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Transmetal Figures Rumoured for Reissue

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:11 am

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If we’re talking strict reissues, new accessories, scaling and articulation are Never going to happen. Something to fix the chrome flaking and GPS is likely as far as they will go.
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Transmetal Figures Rumoured for Reissue

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:19 am

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There is rumours that we will see a leader class tm2 megs next year but take them with a mountain of salt
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Transmetal Figures Rumoured for Reissue

Postby Lunatic Prime » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:19 am

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:If we’re talking strict reissues, new accessories, scaling and articulation are Never going to happen. Something to fix the chrome flaking and GPS is likely as far as they will go.

Yea, what I mean is that some need remakes, NOT reissues.
I am kind of indecisive if I'd prefer a reissue or remake of TM2 Tigerhawk :-?
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Transmetal Figures Rumoured for Reissue

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ZeroWolf wrote:There is rumours that we will see a leader class tm2 megs next year but take them with a mountain of salt


I hope not. Unless they fix the floppy arm...

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:If we’re talking strict reissues, new accessories, scaling and articulation are Never going to happen. Something to fix the chrome flaking and GPS is likely as far as they will go.

Yea, what I mean is that some need remakes, NOT reissues.
I am kind of indecisive if I'd prefer a reissue or remake of TM2 Tigerhawk :-?



Remakes are doubtful, as Japan didn't care for the Transmetals. Reissues would be more likely, as they come from Hasbro.

Tigerhawk's main issue was a completely lack of a paintjob. Although his show model wasn't exactly awash with colour to begin with.
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Transmetal Figures Rumoured for Reissue

Postby Lunatic Prime » Sun Feb 07, 2021 8:35 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:There is rumours that we will see a leader class tm2 megs next year but take them with a mountain of salt
I hope not. Unless they fix the floppy arm...
We are talking about a completely new figure here. Otherwise it would be an Ultra class.

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:If we’re talking strict reissues, new accessories, scaling and articulation are Never going to happen. Something to fix the chrome flaking and GPS is likely as far as they will go.

Yea, what I mean is that some need remakes, NOT reissues.
Remakes are doubtful, as Japan didn't care for the Transmetals. Reissues would be more likely, as they come from Hasbro.
I'm not convinced that we can rule out remakes only because Takara didn't care about something back then. Things change!
And they designed stuff like Hellscream, Max B, Dirgegun and Thrustor which are kind of homages to the TM2 design concept. But I'd be happy with remakes of these figures, too. I mean there are rumours about a Generations Lio Convoy in 2022, too.
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Transmetal Figures Rumoured for Reissue

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Lunatic Prime wrote:We are talking about a completely new figure here. Otherwise it would be an Ultra class.


Except that classification doesn't exist anymore. So he would naturally defer to 'Leader Class'.

Lunatic Prime wrote:I'm not convinced that we can rule out remakes only because Takara didn't care about something back then. Things change!
And they designed stuff like Hellscream, Max B, Dirgegun and Thrustor which are kind of homages to the TM2 design concept. But I'd be happy with remakes of these figures, too. I mean there are rumours about a Generations Lio Convoy in 2022, too.



Wishful thinking aside. The Japanese fanbase is the primary focus of HasTak. There is a reason the Beast Wars Masterpiece line was given a fixed end point of Season One. Why both Cyberverse and WFC Kingdom focus on Season One designs of Beast Wars. Because those designs were liked, the Transmetals were not. So in that respect, nothing has changed.

It is a bit of a stretch to link those figures with TM2. Especially considering Japan didn't even get all of that line.

Plus Lio Convoy was neither TM1 or TM2. So that rumour doesn't really have anything to do with anything.
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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:We are talking about a completely new figure here. Otherwise it would be an Ultra class.

Except that classification doesn't exist anymore. So he would naturally defer to 'Leader Class'.
Still exists in Cyberverse.

Lunatic Prime wrote:I'm not convinced that we can rule out remakes only because Takara didn't care about something back then. Things change!
And they designed stuff like Hellscream, Max B, Dirgegun and Thrustor which are kind of homages to the TM2 design concept. But I'd be happy with remakes of these figures, too. I mean there are rumours about a Generations Lio Convoy in 2022, too.

Wishful thinking aside. The Japanese fanbase is the primary focus of HasTak.
I doubt that especially considering the SIEGE line.

There is a reason the Beast Wars Masterpiece line was given a fixed end point of Season One. Why both Cyberverse and WFC Kingdom focus on Season One designs of Beast Wars.
The only true BW character in Cyberverse was Cheetor. Maybe Sky-Byte if you include base molds. And Kingdom is kind of a test run of how much interest is still there in American Beast Wars stuff.

Because those designs were liked, the Transmetals were not. So in that respect, nothing has changed.
Only in Japan or the Western markets, as well?

It is a bit of a stretch to link those figures with TM2. Especially considering Japan didn't even get all of that line.

Plus Lio Convoy was neither TM1 or TM2. So that rumour doesn't really have anything to do with anything.
What I mean is that Lio Convoy is a BW 2nd character like the other four mentioned ones. So if they see that there's interest in Lio Convoy they might do more from BW 2nd like Hellscream, Max B, Dirgegun and Thrustor for example.

No offense but do you have reliable facts here or old data and mix in your own opinion?
Because without any relevant/up-to-date facts and data I don't see the need to discuss this any further and say: Let's just see what we will actually get and not cloud the mood about it.
I am just hoping that I/we will get what we want and if it doesn't happen I'll of course be disappointed but it's not the end of the world.
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Transmetal Figures Rumoured for Reissue

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:19 am

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I wouldn't say Hasbro are fixated on the Japanese Marketing, given their domestic market is much larger. So just because the Japanese didn't care for anything after season 1 doesn't mean that Transmetals remakes won't be remade at some point. So yes, a Transmetals 2 Dragon Megs could happen. After all they already did Optimal Optimus ;)

Of course something else I wanted to address, it was said that because the ultra class no longer existing that a theoretical tm2 megs reissue would be knocked to Leader Class...the reissues don't stick to size classes as such like normal releases, as seen by the Walmart Reissues, if anything the proce will be higher
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Takara are fixated on the Japanese Market, not Hasbro. Between the two of them, the world doesn't exist beyond Japan and the US though... :roll:
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You said the Japanese market is the primary market of HasTak...which it isn't as both companies have their own to please (hence why the Transformers Movie Masterpiece Series is
Hasbro initiative, and not Takara's)

I do think nothing more can really be said at this point in time till more information is gleamed.
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Bumblevivisector wrote:Yeah, fix all the longevity issues they mentioned, and special attention to Rampage:
He's one of the most tragic cases of red-chrome flaking, I've heard reports of his legs inexplicably shattering, and those rubber treads you have to fold up into his claws then stretch around his wheel assembly ain't gonna' last forever either. Maybe they could even retool him so all his crab legs end up on his shoulder pads like on the show.

I haven't handled Magnaboss in years, but out of curiosity, do the Japanese and Korean releases of BWII Skywarp have GPS too?

At least with Transmetal Megs you have the Metals option. Since my rare-ish pinkish-purple-chrome variant broke, I've regretted not buying that Easter basket with the chrome-swap TM Primal vs. Megatron KO in Kmart 15+ years ago.


I'd love it if we could get a Rampage reissue with some chrome that won't die (a Shokaract that won't cost me an arm, leg, and both kidneys just to shed its chrome like a tree sheds leaves would be nice too). Skywarp has the same plastics as Silverbolt unfortunately.
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Postby Lunatic Prime » Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:17 am

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Takara are fixated on the Japanese Market, not Hasbro. Between the two of them, the world doesn't exist beyond Japan and the US though... :roll:

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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Transmetal Figures Rumoured for Reissue

Postby william-james88 » Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:25 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:There is rumours that we will see a leader class tm2 megs next year but take them with a mountain of salt


I hope not. Unless they fix the floppy arm...

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:If we’re talking strict reissues, new accessories, scaling and articulation are Never going to happen. Something to fix the chrome flaking and GPS is likely as far as they will go.

Yea, what I mean is that some need remakes, NOT reissues.
I am kind of indecisive if I'd prefer a reissue or remake of TM2 Tigerhawk :-?



Remakes are doubtful, as Japan didn't care for the Transmetals. Reissues would be more likely, as they come from Hasbro.

Tigerhawk's main issue was a completely lack of a paintjob. Although his show model wasn't exactly awash with colour to begin with.


The rumor for TM2 Megatron is a remake, not a reissue.

And Hasbro makes toys for their distribution channels, what Japan wants is irrelevant, Hasbro has no say or interest in that market in relations to Transformers.
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Re: Transformers Beast Wars Transmetal Figures Rumoured for Reissue

Postby Immortal Starscream » Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:26 am

I guess I was lucky with transmetals. Normally I am the guy that gets every factory defect that makes it to the shelf. But with BW transmetals I had almost none of the issues other people had. The oy chrome flaking I had was transmetals Rhinox and Beast Machines mega Jetstorm. In fact the only paint issues I had was the orange chipping off TM Primal's robot mode chest, some of the orange and yellow paint rubbing off leaving the shiney silver chrome underneath on Cheetor and Tarantula respectively. Now TM2 Megatron absolutely suffered crotch rot, as did Depth Charge's pin joints. Same with the pin joints on my TM2 Blackarachnia. Too thin of a plastic that required too much force. Once oxidation started on the pins it was over. Now as for gps, ya the Magnaboss Silverbolt and Rampages robot legs both crumbled. Guessing the flecks in Rampages legs are to blame there. Not transmetals, but my Inferno came with every ball socket cracked in the package. So was really hoping we would see our mad ant lad in Kingdom
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