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Re: Rumours Abound: New Transformers Legacy Line and Studio Series Priorities in 2022

Postby The_Cryptid_Person » Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:24 pm

This frankly does nothing for me, as someone who has owned the original since childhood. Looks like the only upgrades are the size, ankle pivot, and opening handles on the weapon. Also it doesn't look like he comes with a cyber key, which is a terrible shame.

Why couldn't they have made tidal wave instead? Are the budgets spread so thin a transformation beyond crawling is impossible?
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Re: Rumours Abound: New Transformers Legacy Line and Studio Series Priorities in 2022

Postby Flashwave » Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:34 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:If that Metroplex dosent disintegrate in transformation like The Ark and have the satisfying clickity-clackytack joints of the original, I'll preorder him day one. :BOWDOWN:


What do you mean disintegrate? Should I be worried about how much mine gets used?
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-Kanrabat- wrote:So this time around, unless Blitzwing get some forced accessory pushed on him, he may turn out like a mini MP.
Like a miniature Kup figure to ride his tank mode? ;)

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It would be nice if Blitzwing's tank mode is large enough so that it just about scales with Kup and you can recreate that scene. I doubt it will be of course, I'm expecting Blitzwing to be only slightly bigger than Voyager with extra parts and maybe some complex engineering to justify the Leader price point. But I am clinging to the feint hope that he is a big Leader, Hasbro heard the feedback on Siege Astrotrain and are making another, larger one.


What, AGAIN? That Astrotrain was great! Awesome even that they bothered to include him a tender for his locomotive mode
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Re: Rumours Abound: New Transformers Legacy Line and Studio Series Priorities in 2022

Postby Cyber Bishop » Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:40 pm

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Re: Rumours Abound: New Transformers Legacy Line and Studio Series Priorities in 2022

Postby Nemesis Primal » Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:42 pm

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VERY eager to see better images of this guy, although that price stings. The fact that the saw end of his weapon actually looks more saw-like and they seem to have taken at least some steps to make the alt mode better looks promising and the fact that he even exists at all still doesn't feel real.

I wonder if he doesn't come with Drill Bit because they're planning to release him as a stand-alone Weaponizer like all the recent Titan partner characters, or if he does come with him and it just isn't shown on this slide that very obviously isn't intended to be used in/as an actual reveal. It's not like the PotP leak revealed every single detail of the leaked figures, after all.
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Re: Rumours Abound: New Transformers Legacy Line and Studio Series Priorities in 2022

Postby Sowndwave76 » Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:49 pm

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Wow, this is an easy, easy pass for me…
Hastak really thinks this is going to have major appeal?
No joke, I wouldn’t buy this if it were on sale for $50.
I am all for branching-out to cover/revisit various series, but this seems like a mis-step.
Which, sure, personally I can say, “Money, saved, & looks like the new Stunticons/Menasor are an even more likely purchase for me”.
But that doesn’t mean I’m in favor of things that could be bad for Hastak.
I don’t see that thing anywhere close to being worth $200.
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Re: Rumours Abound: New Transformers Legacy Line and Studio Series Priorities in 2022

Postby Mistaken_Table » Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:52 pm

Its not great, but at least its different. This'll be an easy pass for most, but they're trying which is nice.

I'm still hoping for a Titan Class Optimal Optimus and a Commander Class Transmetal Rampage.
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Re: Rumours Abound: New Transformers Legacy Line and Studio Series Priorities in 2022

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:14 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:If that Metroplex dosent disintegrate in transformation like The Ark and have the satisfying clickity-clackytack joints of the original, I'll preorder him day one. :BOWDOWN:


What do you mean disintegrate? Should I be worried about how much mine gets used?
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-Kanrabat- wrote:So this time around, unless Blitzwing get some forced accessory pushed on him, he may turn out like a mini MP.
Like a miniature Kup figure to ride his tank mode? ;)


When The Ark is in ship mode, there's those two small panels on the underside at the front. Those panels WILL pop off no matter what I do when transforming. Those things are annoying to deal with and WILL get lost sooner or later.

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Re: Rumours Abound: New Transformers Legacy Line and Studio Series Priorities in 2022

Postby o.supreme » Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:21 pm

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For those that are excited, I am happy for them. For me, its an easy pass. I'm kind of sad as this will be the first Titan I don't own. But the good side is that is money reallocated to get the MP Raiden. (or at least one component of him) :lol: .
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Re: Rumours Abound: New Transformers Legacy Line and Studio Series Priorities in 2022

Postby WiseMan » Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:25 pm

Was someone actually asking for this? I can't remember ever seeing a post asking for a Cybertron Metroplex. I have, however, seen many, many posts asking for an Animated Omega Supreme. I'm just wondering what kind of research Hasbro has done to justify this Titan instead of something else.
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Re: Rumours Abound: New Transformers Legacy Line and Studio Series Priorities in 2022

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:33 pm

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WiseMan wrote:Was someone actually asking for this? I can't remember ever seeing a post asking for a Cybertron Metroplex. I have, however, seen many, many posts asking for an Animated Omega Supreme. I'm just wondering what kind of research Hasbro has done to justify this Titan instead of something else.


The answer is simple, really.
Legacy will revive the Unicron Trilogy. Even if there's not much UC characters, the introduction is strong with that Metroplex. I do hope the titan for 2023 will be Cybertron Menasor to pit against him.
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Re: Rumours Abound: New Transformers Legacy Line and Studio Series Priorities in 2022

Postby primalxconvoy » Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:44 pm

What an absolutely idiotic waste of plastic. The first iteration of this toy was on clearance when it first came out, possibly due to its basic transformation and lack of significantly different modes. I even sold my original shortly after I got it as it was such a poor toy.

I sincerely doubt this will sell in any significant numbers. Seriously, as a fan of Galaxy Force, this is just as badly realised as the equally poor Galaxy Force Prime that was just released in Siege. In both cases, you might as well get the originals, which I think still sell for reasonable prices in collectors' shops or online.
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Re: Rumours Abound: New Transformers Legacy Line and Studio Series Priorities in 2022

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:54 pm

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primalxconvoy wrote:What an absolutely idiotic waste of plastic. The first iteration of this toy was on clearance when it first came out, possibly due to its basic transformation and lack of significantly different modes. I even sold my original shortly after I got it as it we such a poor toy.

I sincerely doubt this will sell in any significant numbers. Seriously, as a fan of Galaxy Force, this is just as badly realised as the equally poor Galaxy Force Prime that was just released in Siege. In both cases, you might as well get the originals, which I think still sell for reasonable prices in collectors' shops or online.


Explain "reasonable".

Because the only way for the price to be "reasonable" is for an incomplete toy. And that damn minicon seem to be made out of cotton candy underwater.
I've got mine. It was stated as "mostly complete". And unlike my Cybertron Menasor (no key) that was found at a flea market for 15$CAN, there's no secret compartment where the minicon is hidden.

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Re: Rumours Abound: New Transformers Legacy Line and Studio Series Priorities in 2022

Postby First-Aid » Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:56 pm

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Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


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Re: Rumours Abound: New Transformers Legacy Line and Studio Series Priorities in 2022

Postby primalxconvoy » Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:01 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:What an absolutely idiotic waste of plastic. The first iteration of this toy was on clearance when it first came out, possibly due to its basic transformation and lack of significantly different modes. I even sold my original shortly after I got it as it we such a poor toy.

I sincerely doubt this will sell in any significant numbers. Seriously, as a fan of Galaxy Force, this is just as badly realised as the equally poor Galaxy Force Prime that was just released in Siege. In both cases, you might as well get the originals, which I think still sell for reasonable prices in collectors' shops or online.


Explain "reasonable".

Because the only way for the price to be "reasonable" is for an incomplete toy. And that damn minicon seem to be made out of cotton candy underwater.
I've got mine. It was stated as "mostly complete". And unlike my Cybertron Menasor (no key) that was found at a flea market for 15$CAN, there's no secret compartment where the minicon is hidden.

So the only option is to buy the thing mint in box for actual titan price.


I disagree. However, as a disclaimer, I'll acknowledge that I'm going on observations from around a year or two ago. That said, I saw Galaxy Force Metroplex going for around 10,000 yen or less at Madarake and other similar shops in Akihabara, and I've seen the odd one in Book Off (or equiv) for a bit less. I've seen two-packs for Big Convoy and Magmatron, Galaxy Force Optimus Prime, Korean Beast Wars 2 figures, etc also keep fairly stable prices (just above retail or staying around 10,000 yen).

Here's some info that might be useful too?

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(Source: - https://www.transformerland.com/price/C ... 20Drillbit )
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Re: Rumours Abound: New Transformers Legacy Line and Studio Series Priorities in 2022

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:07 pm

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I disagree. However, as a disclaimer, I'll acknowledge that I'm going on observations from around a year or two ago. That said, I saw Galaxy Force Metroplex going for around 10,000 yen or less at Madarake and other similar shops in Akihabara, and I've seen the odd one in Book Off (or equiv) for a bit less. I've seen two-packs for Big Convoy and Magmatron, Galaxy Force Optimus Prime, Korean Beast Wars 2 figures, etc also keep fairly stable prices (just above retail or staying around 10,000 yen).


A year is a LOOOONG time for prices to change.

Also, Mandarake still only ship by "no deal" DHL only for Canada. Meaning that contrary to Amazon.jp, shipping that Metroplex would cost close to 10K yen. Plus, since they don't charge any tax deposit, customs hit every single time. So that's 20$CAN plus the federal tax of the total order, plus the provincial tax (and that tax taxes the federal tax on top! Yay Québec!)

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Re: Rumours Abound: New Transformers Legacy Line and Studio Series Priorities in 2022

Postby primalxconvoy » Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:13 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
I disagree. However, as a disclaimer, I'll acknowledge that I'm going on observations from around a year or two ago. That said, I saw Galaxy Force Metroplex going for around 10,000 yen or less at Madarake and other similar shops in Akihabara, and I've seen the odd one in Book Off (or equiv) for a bit less. I've seen two-packs for Big Convoy and Magmatron, Galaxy Force Optimus Prime, Korean Beast Wars 2 figures, etc also keep fairly stable prices (just above retail or staying around 10,000 yen).


A year is a LOOOONG time for prices to change.

Also, Mandarake still only ship by "no deal" DHL only for Canada. Meaning that contrary to Amazon.jp, shipping that Metroplex would cost close to 10K yen. Plus, since they don't charge any tax deposit, customs hit every single time. So that's 20$CAN plus the federal tax of the total order, plus the provincial tax (and that tax taxes the federal tax on top! Yay Québec!)

So until Mandarake finally allow EMS and small packets to Canada, any deals over there are nil and void.


Incorrect.

Although I agree with your point about price fluctuations over a year, your point about Mandarake is completely wrong. I live in Japan and they're relevant to me and anyone who has easy access to the Japanese market and seems ethnicentric to me (EDITED).

This is also why I included an American price info link, as it seems that the original version still sells fairly cheaply in (many?) markets.
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Re: Rumours Abound: New Transformers Legacy Line and Studio Series Priorities in 2022

Postby o.supreme » Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:24 pm

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The original Cybertron Metroplex was what..$50 USD when it came out? I never collected Cybertron. I was tempted to get Primus, but never got it. I'm not sure if this one is 100%,but it seems mostly complete.

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Re: Rumours Abound: New Transformers Legacy Line and Studio Series Priorities in 2022

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:29 pm

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primalxconvoy wrote: your point about Mandarake is completely wrong. I live in Japan and they're relevant to me and anyone who has easy access to the Japanese market and seems ethnicentric to me (EDITED).


"Duuuurrrrr, I live in Florida so it's not expensive to travel to Disney Land, duuuurrrrr."

Were you actually joking, trolling, or are you completely oblivious?

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o.supreme wrote:The original Cybertron Metroplex was what..$50 USD when it came out? I never collected Cybertron. I was tempted to get Primus, but never got it. I'm not sure if this one is 100%,but it seems mostly complete.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hasbro-Transfo ... 632-2357-0


That's a reasonable price, for sure. But...
"Does not ship to Canada."

Sigh... I just need the Drill-Bit minicon to complete mine. And if found, I bet the damn thing will cost 50$+ shipped.
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Re: Rumours Abound: New Transformers Legacy Line and Studio Series Priorities in 2022

Postby o.supreme » Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:40 pm

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I appreciate your frustration 100%. I guess the best takeaway is that while Cybertron Metroplex may be difficult to obtain for some, that's not the case for everyone. For some fans this new Titan will be a welcome addition. For some, seeking out the original toy ( if they don't want something so big) may be the less expensive option.

Also just for the record, (I know you were joking but...) I only live about a 7 hour car drive from Disneyland in Anaheim, ( 1 hour to fly) and it is darn expensive to go there. ;) . I haven't been since 2013, and I seriously doubt I'll ever go back.
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Postby Triggerdick Megatron » Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:45 pm

This Cybertron Metroplex looks alright in robot mode, though it appears the excavator mode will thankfully look more like a truck than the submissive looking original.
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Re: Rumours Abound: New Transformers Legacy Line and Studio Series Priorities in 2022

Postby Nemesis Reformatted » Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:48 pm

Typical Hasbro! We all wanted a new G1 Metroplex, Tidal Wave or The Nemesis so they give us this piece of crap. Cybertron Metroplex has one of the worst alt modes in the history of the franchise. :roll:
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Re: Rumours Abound: New Transformers Legacy Line and Studio Series Priorities in 2022

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:58 pm

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Nemesis Reformatted wrote:Typical Hasbro! We all wanted a new G1 Metroplex, Tidal Wave or The Nemesis so they give us this piece of crap. Cybertron Metroplex has one of the worst alt modes in the history of the franchise. :roll:


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Re: Rumours Abound: New Transformers Legacy Line and Studio Series Priorities in 2022

Postby primalxconvoy » Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:59 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote: your point about Mandarake is completely wrong. I live in Japan and they're relevant to me and anyone who has easy access to the Japanese market and seems ethnicentric to me (EDITED).


"Duuuurrrrr, I live in Florida so it's not expensive to travel to Disney Land, duuuurrrrr."

Were you actually joking, trolling, or are you completely oblivious?

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o.supreme wrote:The original Cybertron Metroplex was what..$50 USD when it came out? I never collected Cybertron. I was tempted to get Primus, but never got it. I'm not sure if this one is 100%,but it seems mostly complete.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hasbro-Transfo ... 632-2357-0


That's a reasonable price, for sure. But...
"Does not ship to Canada."

Sigh... I just need the Drill-Bit minicon to complete mine. And if found, I bet the damn thing will cost 50$+ shipped.


Again, your comments are borderline ethnocentric. Please refrain from further comments of this type. You are a staff member; please act like one.

I highlighted the fact that in two markets (the US and Japan) there is the possibility of cheaper, more affordable original versions. Your own, finite and limited experiences are irrelevant to my points, as my points were to highlight the (possible) general states of things. Please understand the differences.

My points, quite obviously, still stand. If you're unable to grasp such simple points, then I'm afraid I cannot help you.
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Re: Rumours Abound: New Transformers Legacy Line and Studio Series Priorities in 2022

Postby ScottyP » Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:05 pm

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It's only one tiny image, but I'm pretty excited. It's like a properly scaled version for the original Cybertron line! Hope Drill Bit's included. Will expect not, but can still hope so.

This gives me some hope for supporting media as well, colonies and not-Cybertron-itself planets full of Transformers are a super fun concept that doesn't get visited enough.

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Re: Rumours Abound: New Transformers Legacy Line and Studio Series Priorities in 2022

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:06 pm

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primalxconvoy wrote:
Again, your comments are borderline ethnocentric. Please refrain from further comments of this type. You are a staff member; please act like one.

I highlighted the fact that in two markets (the US and Japan) there is the possibility of cheaper, more affordable original versions. Your own, finite and limited experiences are irrelevant to my points, as my points were to highlight the (possible) general states of things. Please understand the differences.

My points, quite obviously, still stand. If you're unable to grasp such simple points, then I'm afraid I cannot help you.


Right back at ya with your "ethnocentricity".
YOUR personal experience is totally irrelevant for EVERYONE outside Japan.
So your point "stand" only for you.

As for Americans, appart that single listing, finding a complete original with his Minicon for a reasonable price is pretty rare.
Come see my latest creation, a Galvatron Combiner using 4 SS86 Sweeps as limbs


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