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Seibertron wrote:Kudos to Hasbro and Takara Tomy for finally doing Huffer right. Can't wait to see the inevitable Pipes get the same proper treatment. Hope they can get the cab right for Pipes in robot mode.

Pretty sure one of the leakers said Huffer and Pipes were designed in tandem so that both could have their respective proper bot modes. Pipes also seems to come with two large arm canons that I assume act as extra exhaust pipes, I'm guessing he wont come with the shield then.

Rogue-Primal wrote:Based on the ammount of figures revealed does anyone think they will make a Kingdom Beast Wars Silverbolt in this line?

There's been some speculation that he might be Airrazor's retool for a potential Magnaboss down the road since she has those strange square holes on her back that don't seem to serve a purpose. She also has all those extra joints in her wings that don't have a purpose other than letting her fold her wings forward and she doesn't even use all of them for that.



Of course we also need an elephant lion mold to complete the set and that isn't happening in Kingdom. Maybe next Trilogy?

I do love that they gave her beak articulation!

As far as Ultra Magnus' exposed hands go it really annoys me that they couldn't have come up with something to cover them considering they removed the big black side guns from the Siege version. Stick a box over them or some side panels that can plug into the hands and double as shields in bot mode.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:
As far as Ultra Magnus' exposed hands go it really annoys me that they couldn't have come up with something to cover them considering they removed the big black side guns from the Siege version. Stick a box over them or some side panels that can plug into the hands and double as shields in bot mode.

Emerje

I like where you're going with that! It would've been cool if he had pieces that would plug into his hands to later become the magnus hammer or something, and they could just be boxy looking to seem as if part of the truck

Emerje wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Kudos to Hasbro and Takara Tomy for finally doing Huffer right. Can't wait to see the inevitable Pipes get the same proper treatment. Hope they can get the cab right for Pipes in robot mode.

Pretty sure one of the leakers said Huffer and Pipes were designed in tandem so that both could have their respective proper bot modes. Pipes also seems to come with two large arm canons that I assume act as extra exhaust pipes, I'm guessing he wont come with the shield then.

Rogue-Primal wrote:Based on the ammount of figures revealed does anyone think they will make a Kingdom Beast Wars Silverbolt in this line?

There's been some speculation that he might be Airrazor's retool for a potential Magnaboss down the road since she has those strange square holes on her back that don't seem to serve a purpose. She also has all those extra joints in her wings that don't have a purpose other than letting her fold her wings forward and she doesn't even use all of them for that.



Of course we also need an elephant lion mold to complete the set and that isn't happening in Kingdom. Maybe next Trilogy?

I do love that they gave her beak articulation!

As far as Ultra Magnus' exposed hands go it really annoys me that they couldn't have come up with something to cover them considering they removed the big black side guns from the Siege version. Stick a box over them or some side panels that can plug into the hands and double as shields in bot mode.

Emerje

I could be wrong but I think that they meant Fuzor Silverbolt instead of the magnaboss combiner (which would be awesome)

review for Verterbreak!

Not 100% Kingdom related, but one of the leakers said Hasbro has started preliminary work on a Voyager Lio Convoy for after WFC if Kingdom does well. As always, take with a grain of salt.

I have mixed feeling on Lio Convoy (and also Big Convoy). I like the design ideas behind him, but I wish he wasn't so derivative of Optimus with both the red torso and Optimus Prime's head. Still, it'll be interesting to see what that design work is if he comes out

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I have mixed feeling on Lio Convoy (and also Big Convoy). I like the design ideas behind him, but I wish he wasn't so derivative of Optimus with both the red torso and Optimus Prime's head. Still, it'll be interesting to see what that design work is if he comes out

In those stories the Convoys are all sort of made up the same way as unit commanders rather than being a Prime in the sense that we think of it in G1.

sol magnus wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I have mixed feeling on Lio Convoy (and also Big Convoy). I like the design ideas behind him, but I wish he wasn't so derivative of Optimus with both the red torso and Optimus Prime's head. Still, it'll be interesting to see what that design work is if he comes out

In those stories the Convoys are all sort of made up the same way as unit commanders rather than being a Prime in the sense that we think of it in G1.

Yeah, in Japanese Beast Wars, being a "Supreme Commander" is nothing special.

Now, being a "Great Convoy", in the other hand, that is special, as it's the position of those who sit on the Convoy Council.

Autobot N wrote:Not 100% Kingdom related, but one of the leakers said Hasbro has started preliminary work on a Voyager Lio Convoy for after WFC if Kingdom does well. As always, take with a grain of salt.

I would love a new voyager Lio and a leader Big Convoy. I love Big Convoy, like a lot

sol magnus wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I have mixed feeling on Lio Convoy (and also Big Convoy). I like the design ideas behind him, but I wish he wasn't so derivative of Optimus with both the red torso and Optimus Prime's head. Still, it'll be interesting to see what that design work is if he comes out

In those stories the Convoys are all sort of made up the same way as unit commanders rather than being a Prime in the sense that we think of it in G1.

I know, I'm just meaning in terms of my preference. Cause it's always felt weird to me that the leaders had to look like Optimus despite being a different character. Granted, I could probably justify Lio Convoy as suffering from that psychological thing from IDW where the patient thinks they're a Prime

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I have mixed feeling on Lio Convoy (and also Big Convoy). I like the design ideas behind him, but I wish he wasn't so derivative of Optimus with both the red torso and Optimus Prime's head. Still, it'll be interesting to see what that design work is if he comes out

In those stories the Convoys are all sort of made up the same way as unit commanders rather than being a Prime in the sense that we think of it in G1.

I know, I'm just meaning in terms of my preference. Cause it's always felt weird to me that the leaders had to look like Optimus despite being a different character. Granted, I could probably justify Lio Convoy as suffering from that psychological thing from IDW where the patient thinks they're a Prime

It's all about that iconography. Gotta make all of the new Convoys look like the original Convoy.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Autobot N wrote:Not 100% Kingdom related, but one of the leakers said Hasbro has started preliminary work on a Voyager Lio Convoy for after WFC if Kingdom does well. As always, take with a grain of salt.

I would love a new voyager Lio and a leader Big Convoy. I love Big Convoy, like a lot

Seconded!!!

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I have mixed feeling on Lio Convoy (and also Big Convoy). I like the design ideas behind him, but I wish he wasn't so derivative of Optimus with both the red torso and Optimus Prime's head. Still, it'll be interesting to see what that design work is if he comes out

In those stories the Convoys are all sort of made up the same way as unit commanders rather than being a Prime in the sense that we think of it in G1.

I know, I'm just meaning in terms of my preference. Cause it's always felt weird to me that the leaders had to look like Optimus despite being a different character. Granted, I could probably justify Lio Convoy as suffering from that psychological thing from IDW where the patient thinks they're a Prime

In my headcanon, he'd be a Prime from the ancient past who is Optimus' "ancestor" (thinking in terms of the new IDW's mentor-mentee relationship, you'd be able to trace a line of mentors and mentees from Optimus all the way back to Lio Convoy).

I really like my TL Lio Convoy though I never bothered with TR Alpha Trion, doubftul that I'd bother with a new lio.

Might be interesting if lio and big convoy sculpts could some how be used for magnaboss tho.

I have the Legend Commander Collection version that uses the RobotMasters Lio Convoy mold, and it works well for me even if it is a small Deluxe.

blackeyedprime wrote:Might be interesting if lio and big convoy sculpts could some how be used for magnaboss tho.

Makes a lot of sense.

Bone Age wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Might be interesting if lio and big convoy sculpts could some how be used for magnaboss tho.

Makes a lot of sense.

Agreed! Come to think of it, it makes more sense that magnaboss would be composed of convoys considering tripredacus is composed of predacon council members. And if im not mistaken the maximal council was most if not all convoys lol

Sabrblade wrote:I have the Legend Commander Collection version that uses the RobotMasters Lio Convoy mold, and it works well for me even if it is a small Deluxe.

Lio wise, I have the club repaint of T30 Orion Pax, the Prime version, and the original, who is soon to be at long last complete.

Big Convoy wise I have both of the recent figures, the toon accurate one (one of my all time favorite figures) and the Matrix Buster one, who is in beast mode and the matrix buster is with the toon one

Hmm could be a case of completing Magnaboss over a couple of years then, big question is really how they could manage it for Tripedacus

Razorbeast88 wrote:

Bone Age wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Might be interesting if lio and big convoy sculpts could some how be used for magnaboss tho.

Makes a lot of sense.

Agreed! Come to think of it, it makes more sense that magnaboss would be composed of convoys considering tripredacus is composed of predacon council members. And if im not mistaken the maximal council was most if not all convoys lol

It kinda would, although I personally like more the idea that he's just made up of G1 Ironhide, Prowl, and Silverbolt, but in post-upgrade bodies. I find the Optimus Prime derivation a bit boring, despite liking Lio Convoy and Big Convoy as toys.

Rtron wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:

Bone Age wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Might be interesting if lio and big convoy sculpts could some how be used for magnaboss tho.

Makes a lot of sense.

Agreed! Come to think of it, it makes more sense that magnaboss would be composed of convoys considering tripredacus is composed of predacon council members. And if im not mistaken the maximal council was most if not all convoys lol

It kinda would, although I personally like more the idea that he's just made up of G1 Ironhide, Prowl, and Silverbolt, but in post-upgrade bodies. I find the Optimus Prime derivation a bit boring, despite liking Lio Convoy and Big Convoy as toys.

What makes the most sense to me is that Ironhide could be a retool of Big and Prowl could be a retool of Lio. With Silverbolt as an Airazor retool, you got the whole team.

I know the dinossurs mode aren't the same but with Ractonite,we can pretend he is a zombie version of Guiledart

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TulioDude wrote:Wonder if the Kingdom cartoon will use Ultra Magnus?

Optimus:I thought Megatron had killed you!

Ultra Magnus:Yeah,but I got better.

Day 336 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

Just wrong man, just wrong. We should've seen more of that Armada Prime by now, heard it had to be pulled.

Yeah, whatever happened to that Armada Prime Takara teased with the Star Convoy retool or PotP Prime?

Long story short, the cab robot that we saw would cost at least $80 alone and Has/Taks felt collectors wouldn't pay that much.

Translation: they don't think there's a Unicron Trilogy collector's market.
After all, we've seen what they're willing to do with G1 and BW-based MPs... Especially G1-based MPs that jump through 5-million hoops to duplicate things that, on the cartoon design, were simplifications from the toy.

I'm sure that HasTak will realize the untapped potential of revisiting the Unicron Trilogy.

Rtron wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:

Bone Age wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Might be interesting if lio and big convoy sculpts could some how be used for magnaboss tho.

Makes a lot of sense.

Agreed! Come to think of it, it makes more sense that magnaboss would be composed of convoys considering tripredacus is composed of predacon council members. And if im not mistaken the maximal council was most if not all convoys lol

It kinda would, although I personally like more the idea that he's just made up of G1 Ironhide, Prowl, and Silverbolt, but in post-upgrade bodies. I find the Optimus Prime derivation a bit boring, despite liking Lio Convoy and Big Convoy as toys.

I see where you're coming from. It'd be fun to have lio Convoy, big Convoy, AND the original magnaboss characters. Especially because you can have BW ironhide, prowl, silverbolt, and hopefully grimlock along with the G1 versions of the characters

In the pack-in manga that came with the Legends Blue Big Convoy, it was explained that the reason for all of these Convoys existing is that they were created in memory of Optimus Primal's sacrifice at the end of Beast Machines. He himself already had an Optimus/Convoy-styled head (in his BW Season 1 body, that is), so each of the new Convoys got one as well in his honor.

Razorbeast88 wrote:It'd be fun to have lio Convoy, big Convoy, AND the original magnaboss characters. Especially because you can have BW ironhide, prowl, silverbolt, and hopefully grimlock along with the G1 versions of the characters

Yes please. Grimlock too.

Sabrblade wrote:In the pack-in manga that came with the Legends Blue Big Convoy, it was explained that the reason for all of these Convoys existing is that they were created in memory of Optimus Primal's sacrifice at the end of Beast Machines. He himself already had an Optimus/Convoy-styled head (in his BW Season 1 body, that is), so each of the new Convoys got one as well in his honor.

See I didn't know that. That's cool.