Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Indeed, Will and I were bemoaning Terrorsaur. Tigatron, however, looks fantastic and is a contender for the "Mini Masterpiece" mantel. I want one yesterday!
God Sunstreaker wrote:AcademyofDrX wrote:God Sunstreaker wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:God Sunstreaker wrote:I pre-ordered the kingdom deluxe wave 4 grouping on BBTS yesterday when it was listed with Pipes and Slammer. Today they changed the listing and instead of Pipes and Slammer there are secret characters listed in the place of Pipes and Slammer.
I attempted to find out what was going on. Despite the fact that Pipes and Slammer were a part of my order yesterday, BBTS won't confirm that today. Although apparently it's ok if cancel my order.
I'm pretty sure BBTS just jumped the gun using the original wave 4 case breakdown instead of the revised one that is actually being delivered. Pipes and Slammer were moved to wave 5 and replaced with Paleotrex and Tracks re-issues in wave 4. I'd cancel now.
That's an interesting point and while I can empathize with mistakes my point is different.
It's a question of moral and legal ethics. Is it morally ok or even legally ok to change someone's order? BBTS and I entered into an agreement. I pose that changing that agreement is ethically wrong and charging me for something I didn't agree to purchase is legally wrong. I also pose that ignoring their mistake and having the customer take action to correct the mistake is unethical.
Now I don't doubt that someone on Hasbro's payroll messed up it seems to me there were mistakes all around.
I'm sorry, there's nothing immoral or illegal going on here. It would have been good customer service for BBTS to notify you proactively, but that they didn't is not a moral failing and certainly doesn't qualify for any legal remedy.
I apologize that you're not getting the toy you wanted when you wanted it that everyone knew was listed an error, but if you're looking for a professional to help you with it, I would recommend a therapist before an ethicist or lawyer.
You seem very sure of yourself.
I have to ask was your answer coming from some insider knowledge at Hasbro? Do you have some perspective in retail where you empathize with a retailer?
It's interesting how your argument starts out with an apology directed at me and then implies that the only help I can get is to change my perspective. Also, implying in insult, which is unfortunate. Although this is the internet.
In a debate about morality and ethics addressing the issue's specifics would help me or anyone else understanding your position. I understand the attacking the person posing the question is the easy approach and by doing so, it makes you or others think the question itself is invalid.
So let's try again with your response and see if you can come up with something a little more useful.
Questions:
1. For what reason is a seller's position to change an products order after it's placed morally ok?
2. How is it legally ok to charge someone for what they didn't agree to?
Thanks.
TF-fan kev777 wrote:I would add:
1.1b) In the event 1.1a happens, you don't complain. You put that on eBay as quickly as possible.
william-james88 wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:I would add:
1.1b) In the event 1.1a happens, you don't complain. You put that on eBay as quickly as possible.
Not as hot as he once was it seems
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/294357015599?ha ... SwoYZhErUO
william-james88 wrote:Attempting to transform Kingdom Rhinox without the instructions is one of my dumber decisions.
Wolfman Jake wrote:william-james88 wrote:Attempting to transform Kingdom Rhinox without the instructions is one of my dumber decisions.
Indeed. I had to cave-in and use the instructions pretty early on, despite having watched several reviews which showed the transformation. Kingdom Rhinox is perhaps the most difficult conversion to learn in the whole War for Cybertron Trilogy.
Nuclearxpotato wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:william-james88 wrote:Attempting to transform Kingdom Rhinox without the instructions is one of my dumber decisions.
Indeed. I had to cave-in and use the instructions pretty early on, despite having watched several reviews which showed the transformation. Kingdom Rhinox is perhaps the most difficult conversion to learn in the whole War for Cybertron Trilogy.
It's not Difficult in an interesting way, it's difficult in a "clearance wasn't designed". He really feels like the ER Arcee of Kingdom (which is funny because she's also in Kingdom).
-Kanrabat- wrote:I may had a brain fart but I don't remember at all if the tower of the Ark's spaceship mode was in my box or if I ever plugged it in.
Moonshot wrote:Thru all the reveals I kept waiting for an actual Golden Disc to be in these and finally it showed up.
Gauntlet101010 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:I may had a brain fart but I don't remember at all if the tower of the Ark's spaceship mode was in my box or if I ever plugged it in.
It's inside a panel that flips out. It's not a separate accessory. Look beside that nub in spaceship mode.
-Kanrabat- wrote:I may had a brain fart but I don't remember at all if the tower of the Ark's spaceship mode was in my box or if I ever plugged it in. One thing is sure is that after seeing a video about the upgrade kit, I was aware of that tower's existence and I went to check on my Ark. There was none and the part was nowhere to be found.
Because he's annoying to transform due to those popping underbelly panels, the overall feel was just ordinary, and I just HATE having an incomplete toy of that price, I returned the whole thing to Amazon for a full refund.
No matter if the initial deal was good, I'm not buying the Ark back.
Haslab Victory Saber X2 won't pay themselves after all.
o.supreme wrote:The tower on the ark isn't a separate piece. It just is packaged already folded down into the Ark.
o.supreme wrote:I'm pretty sure you won't have an issue with the return. I'd agree that The Ark is probably my least favorite Titan but the ship mode is neat enough to keep it for me. I'd agree that after BZ, I'm pretty much done with Titans, unless Cybertron Metroplex really impresses me next year.
Wolfman Jake wrote:Nuclearxpotato wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:william-james88 wrote:Attempting to transform Kingdom Rhinox without the instructions is one of my dumber decisions.
Indeed. I had to cave-in and use the instructions pretty early on, despite having watched several reviews which showed the transformation. Kingdom Rhinox is perhaps the most difficult conversion to learn in the whole War for Cybertron Trilogy.
It's not Difficult in an interesting way, it's difficult in a "clearance wasn't designed". He really feels like the ER Arcee of Kingdom (which is funny because she's also in Kingdom).
What sets Rhinox apart from Arcee, though, is everything else. He's a sturdy figure, the kibble backpack is minimal, and most everything does tab together well once it's in place. Arcee is made of thin plastic, the origami is easy to understand, but doesn't fit together well because of tolerance issues, and most of the robot is literally just crammed into the car shell however you can manage. It's trash.
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