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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:46 pm

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In my collection CW Cyclonus represents the IDW version. I think the paint shade matches the closest between them. I swapped his cannon with Motormaster's sword so he can have his great sword and Menasor can have a big cannon. And I do have Generations Tailgate to go with him. If I do get the Kingdom version, he'll go on my TF:TM shelf. I'm not impressed by him so far, I don't like his legs and feet, and his paint is too pale from what I've seen. He'll be an in-hand decision.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Seibertron » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:50 pm

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You can basically turn Blackarachnia into the Spider-Man symbol. It was fun.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby PerfectVision » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:03 am

Seibertron wrote:The space jet mode of Cyclonus reminds me a lot of Transformers Prime Vehicon. While out of scale, I'd love to see Cyclonus remolded into Vehicon. Maybe they can repurpose that character into something else for the line.


Cyclonus has a special head,i don't like it a lot but the vehicon's one is very dull,in general, he's it compared to the flesh eaters from TUROK or even...Those from BEAST MACHINES.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Emerje » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:04 am

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WeatherManNX01 wrote:Dinobot, Airizor, Huffer, and Inferno look great (as far as we can tell, at least). Ultra Magnus looks pretty good, but I need to see better images and size comparisons of both modes to determine if I'm going to replace the CW version.

Dinobot's head is gorgeous.

I'm most chuffed by Huffer out of that lot, which definitely looks better compared to his CW figure.

He looks like a partial retool of the trailer and a full retool of the cab. I want to see his head, the eyes look different.

I'm seeing half of both. The "cab" of the truck (i.e. the bot mode torso) appears to be entirely new while the arms and legs are the same. White "Prime" head is probably the same as well and they seem to have fixed the gap between his "hips" and wheels in truck mode, at least according to the art. The top half of the trailer as armor (torso and shoulders including pylons) seems to be altered to be more G1 without the greeble judging from what we can see through the window, but the art shows the legs are completely the same. Not seeing any sign of the Galaxy Upgrade side guns, I hope they replaced them with something and didn't just drop them.

Other thoughts: Airrazor looks great from what we can see, can't wait to see what the bird mode looks like. Huffer is very nice, but I still hope he can pull a Prime trailer, maybe that's why the shield is needed on back, to give it some lift? Curious why Pipes needs those extra exhaust guns on his arms. Ractonite looks great, can't wait to see what secrets he holds, really love the head sculpt. Inferno will be good, just hope they fixed the peg issue. Dinobot is better than I was expecting. One leak said he'd be in original toy colors and I'm very thankful that he's in cartoon colors (skin is a little pale, but that's fine).

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Emerje » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:29 am

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I can't be the only one that wishes Blackarachnia was a Core class, but then again I guess they'd have to make Airrazor smaller and that could be even more difficult. Still, they don't scale too great.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Seibertron » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:34 am

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More Beast Megatron and Optimus Primal fun ...

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Seibertron » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:39 am

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I really like Optimus Primal. My only gripe after doing his photo shoot, other than his legs are a little odd in gorilla-mode, is that I wish he had a "snarling" face that exposed his beast fangs. I think that would be much better than the standard static face (which I normally prefer for robot modes) than for "beast" modes.

I think the same for Cheetor. He basically always has the Cheetor-"shocked" face when the beast mode jaw is opened. I would prefer some more movement with Cheetor. His beast mode doesn't seem that different from the original. The lack of head movement and the shorter neck kind of kills this being an update from the original. Yes, his legs are poseable, but without a poseable neck, Cheetor feels very much like his original version from 1996 unfortunately.

As does Rattrap in beast mode, though you can stand him up on his hind legs, but it's not much of an improvement over the original in beast mode.

Optimus Primal is definitely the improvement of this group.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Seibertron » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:42 am

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Seibertron wrote:As does Rattrap in beast mode, though you can stand him up on his hind legs, but it's not much of an improvement over the original in beast mode.


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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:00 am

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Out of curiosity, how does Megatron's rubber-y plastic feel?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Seibertron » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:03 am

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This is the photo that I took where I thought Optimus Primal should have a snarling face instead of the static face that I normally prefer for ROBOT modes.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Seibertron » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:06 am

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:Out of curiosity, how does Megatron's rubber-y plastic feel?


Awesome. Honestly, I thought he had "die-cast" on him somewhere because of how heavy he felt when I first handled the "beast" Megatron action figure from Kingdom.

I wish all of the "beasts" had the same feel, like Blackarachnia's spider abdomen and others, even if it's not realistic. Hell, I'd like Cheetor with that "feel" as well, but maybe not appropriate for a "cheetah" versus a "t-rex". However, I'd argue that you get the "beast" feel when the "beasts" have a special touch/feel versus the mechanical vehicle-mode Transformers.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:08 am

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:Out of curiosity, how does Megatron's rubber-y plastic feel?


Awesome. Honestly, I thought he had "die-cast" on him somewhere because of how heavy he felt when I first handled the "beast" Megatron action figure from Kingdom.

I wish all of the "beasts" had the same feel, like Blackarachnia's spider abdomen and others, even if it's not realistic. Hell, I'd like Cheetor with that "feel" as well, but maybe not appropriate for a "cheetah" versus a "t-rex". However, I'd argue that you get the "beast" feel when the "beasts" have a special touch/feel versus the mechanical vehicle-mode Transformers.

That's good to hear. I wasn't really worried, but it's good that it seems to be good quality
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:13 am

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If you own the 10th anniversary 2-pack of Primal and Megatron, could we get a few comparison shots with the new figures? If not, no biggie. I love that set (especially Megatron) and I would be hard-pressed to have the Kingdom figures replace them. Maybe I'll get them to display the characters in both modes.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:19 am

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Just a note, for those of you with or interested in Vertabreak, the other day I went to transform it from robot to skeleton beast and almost broke a hand trying to get the tail sword out. There was some sudden and rapid weather changes in NYC so that might be it, but I think it has to do more with the sword being soft rubber. Had a hard time pegging it into dino mode too.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Seibertron » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:20 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:If you own the 10th anniversary 2-pack of Primal and Megatron, could we get a few comparison shots with the new figures? If not, no biggie. I love that set (especially Megatron) and I would be hard-pressed to have the Kingdom figures replace them. Maybe I'll get them to display the characters in both modes.


Of course. Absolutely. Will be photographing the rest tomorrow.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Lunatic Prime » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:13 am

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OK, where is that picture gallery?
And where did you get these figures from?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:30 am

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Wireless_Phantom » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:00 am

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Obviously we can't quite tell exactly just yet, but it seems like Magnus isn't going to be very changed as far as vehicle mode parts go, and I think that's going to be a bit of a shame. he'll look rather odd.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Seibertron » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:44 am

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Lunatic Prime wrote:OK, where is that picture gallery?


Working on them. I hope to have Cyclonus' gallery finished later today (tonight?). It's taking longer than desired because I'm doing all of the alt mode pics first for all of these figures before turning them into robot modes. I'll do the comparison pic group shots first so that I can knock out robot mode pics over the next few days. Here's my progress so far ...

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Lunatic Prime wrote:And where did you get these figures from?


Hasbro was kind enough to send some of us influencers Kingdom Wave 1 so that we can share pics or other content with all of you.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Autobot N » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:53 am

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Seibertron wrote:Hasbro was kind enough to send some of us influencers Kingdom Wave 1 so that we can share pics or other content with all of you.
Do you get to keep them, or do you have to send them back?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby King Kuuga » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:01 am

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Lunatic Prime wrote:OK, where is that picture gallery?
And where did you get these figures from?
Come on! Tell me!
Don't hide it!
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A bunch of reviewers and fansite admins received care packages from Hasbro the other day with the first wave of Kingdom figures in them.



So. These things look great and I will be getting pretty much all of wave 1. Primal being shorter than Prime bothers me a little bit but I can live with it, as others have said it allows for other voyager class figures to be taller than him who are canonically bigger.

The wave 2 leaks look good as well. The solution to Dinobot's chest is certainly better than what the Masterpiece came up with, I look forward to seeing more and better pics of him. Airazor looks great even if we can't see her wings. I want more pictures of Ractonite, since that's the biggest unknown here. Of course, I realize all of these are coming several months before Hasbro is likely to show them to us. I assume wave 2 was intended for a Toy Fair reveal.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Seibertron » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:13 am

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Autobot N wrote:
Seibertron wrote:Hasbro was kind enough to send some of us influencers Kingdom Wave 1 so that we can share pics or other content with all of you.
Do you get to keep them, or do you have to send them back?


I get to keep them. :)
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Lunatic Prime » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:28 am

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Lunatic Prime wrote:OK, where is that picture gallery?
And where did you get these figures from?
Come on! Tell me!
Don't hide it!
:-D


Working on them. I hope to have Cyclonus' gallery finished later today (tonight?). It's taking longer than desired because I'm doing all of the alt mode pics first for all of these figures before turning them into robot modes. I'll do the comparison pic group shots first so that I can knock out robot mode pics over the next few days. Here's my progress so far ...

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Looks great!
Keep on the good work ;)^
And clever system to take those pictures. I'd do it like that, too.

I am really curious to see if Optimus Primal got details in his alt mode belly flap that resemble his jetpack in robot mode. It would be huge bummer and missed opportunity of the designers if they didn't incorporate that.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Autobot N » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:43 am

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Seibertron wrote:Hasbro was kind enough to send some of us influencers Kingdom Wave 1 so that we can share pics or other content with all of you.
Do you get to keep them, or do you have to send them back?


I get to keep them. :)
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:42 pm

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Seibertron wrote:I really like Optimus Primal. My only gripe after doing his photo shoot, other than his legs are a little odd in gorilla-mode, is that I wish he had a "snarling" face that exposed his beast fangs. I think that would be much better than the standard static face (which I normally prefer for robot modes) than for "beast" modes.
To be fair, the neutral expression is a better fit for Optimus' temperament in the show than snarling. Although it's not as perfect as giving the gorilla mode an annoyed or exasperated expression.

Seibertron wrote:I think the same for Cheetor. He basically always has the Cheetor-"shocked" face when the beast mode jaw is opened. I would prefer some more movement with Cheetor. His beast mode doesn't seem that different from the original. The lack of head movement and the shorter neck kind of kills this being an update from the original. Yes, his legs are poseable, but without a poseable neck, Cheetor feels very much like his original version from 1996 unfortunately.
Honestly, I think that's to be expected. There's only so much you can do with the designs on a regular toy this size, especially with the tighter limits of today.

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Besides, do we really want a repeat of this? Kingdom Cheetor looks to stray a little into that in robot mode as it is.

Seibertron wrote:As does Rattrap in beast mode, though you can stand him up on his hind legs, but it's not much of an improvement over the original in beast mode.
Is it at least not a downgrade compared to the original in any respects?

Seibertron wrote:Optimus Primal is definitely the improvement of this group.
It's to be expected considering he had the least cheated design of the Season 1 Maximals and the main thing holding the original toy back in beast mode was a gimmick.
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