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Same, the Fans Hobby Athena I got the other day was the first time I had to look at the instructions for a Transformer in years.Hellscream9999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:bacem wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Is it safe to say Thy Kingdom Come?!!?
It's a shame they couldn't figure out weapon storage in Rat mode.
Or there could actually be one, but tonton didn't figure out, as he gets no instructions.
What?! But then how does he know how it transforms?
He fiddles with it? It works for me just fine as I don't normally use instructions ever
Sabrblade wrote:william-james88 wrote:bacem wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Is it safe to say Thy Kingdom Come?!!?
It's a shame they couldn't figure out weapon storage in Rat mode.
Or there could actually be one, but tonton didn't figure out, as he gets no instructions.
What?! But then how does he know how it transforms?
TulioDude wrote:I'm liking the look of this Rattrap better than the T30 one,he feels more show accurate.
Burn wrote:For me personally, after the sub-par T30 figures (personal opinion, calm the **** down and save yourself the hassle of trying to tell me I'm "wrong"), I was wary of "modern" BW figures, considering the originals still hold up really well.
Wolfman Jake wrote:Burn wrote:For me personally, after the sub-par T30 figures (personal opinion, calm the **** down and save yourself the hassle of trying to tell me I'm "wrong"), I was wary of "modern" BW figures, considering the originals still hold up really well.
Eh, I think you're looking at the original Beast Wars figures through some thick, rose-colored glasses. They were great at the time and still decent now, but T30 Rattrap is leaps and bounds superior to the original Basic Class toy in the 90's. The same goes for Waspinator, and even Rhinox. What is it about the T30 versions that is inferior to the original 1996 toys besides "not as nostalgic?"
SpikeyTigertron wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Burn wrote:For me personally, after the sub-par T30 figures (personal opinion, calm the **** down and save yourself the hassle of trying to tell me I'm "wrong"), I was wary of "modern" BW figures, considering the originals still hold up really well.
Eh, I think you're looking at the original Beast Wars figures through some thick, rose-colored glasses. They were great at the time and still decent now, but T30 Rattrap is leaps and bounds superior to the original Basic Class toy in the 90's. The same goes for Waspinator, and even Rhinox. What is it about the T30 versions that is inferior to the original 1996 toys besides "not as nostalgic?"
That Cheetor was hot garbage for one.... To a degree they also cut features (like the mutant face). I think the main argument is "better" eh? Articulation-wise with the pre-existing ball joints they were pretty decent.
I still think the MPs blow everything else out of the water... they literally look like they walked out of the morning cartoon show.
william-james88 wrote:TulioDude wrote:I'm liking the look of this Rattrap better than the T30 one,he feels more show accurate.
I don't see how, there is absolutely nothing show accurate with the lower legs. In many ways, this new rattrap seems to take more inspiration from the original toy than the show.
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Wolfman Jake wrote:I didn't mention Cheetor, nor Dinobot, from the Universe 2008 line. I'm specifically talking about the Thrilling 30 figures that Burn said he has issue with.
I beg to differ. T30 Rattrap is a fiddly mess that is anything but fun to transform with sorely limited elbow articulation and is just too darn big for the little guy.Wolfman Jake wrote:but T30 Rattrap is leaps and bounds superior to the original Basic Class toy in the 90's.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
william-james88 wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:I didn't mention Cheetor, nor Dinobot, from the Universe 2008 line. I'm specifically talking about the Thrilling 30 figures that Burn said he has issue with.
Yup, because boy did I want to make a meme with the Optimus Primal we got in POTP and put him next to the one from 1996 and write "superior/inferior". Unfair, for sure, but still true.
Sabrblade wrote:I beg to differ. T30 Rattrap is a fiddly mess that is anything but fun to transform with sorely limited elbow articulation and is just too darn big for the little guy.Wolfman Jake wrote:but T30 Rattrap is leaps and bounds superior to the original Basic Class toy in the 90's.
I have the Takara show-accurate redeco of the original 1996 Basic mold with the copper-painted face and hands, and while simplistic to transform since it's a springloaded flipchanger, it is far more fun to handle, has a full range of ball-joined articulation, and sizes much better to not only the other original figures but also the Deluxe class BW Telemocha Series Primal and the Generations Rhinox figure.
Visual example (not my pic, but these are the right molds):
The gorgeously show-accurate Henkei! Henkei! redeco of the Universe mold.SpikeyTigertron wrote:which Dinobot is that... that's not the original...
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I beg to differ. T30 Rattrap is a fiddly mess that is anything but fun to transform with sorely limited elbow articulation and is just too darn big for the little guy.Wolfman Jake wrote:but T30 Rattrap is leaps and bounds superior to the original Basic Class toy in the 90's.
I have the Takara show-accurate redeco of the original 1996 Basic mold with the copper-painted face and hands, and while simplistic to transform since it's a springloaded flipchanger, it is far more fun to handle, has a full range of ball-joined articulation, and sizes much better to not only the other original figures but also the Deluxe class BW Telemocha Series Primal and the Generations Rhinox figure.
Sabrblade wrote:Visual example (not my pic, but these are the right molds):
Wolfman Jake wrote:Burn wrote:For me personally, after the sub-par T30 figures (personal opinion, calm the **** down and save yourself the hassle of trying to tell me I'm "wrong"), I was wary of "modern" BW figures, considering the originals still hold up really well.
Eh, I think you're looking at the original Beast Wars figures through some thick, rose-colored glasses. They were great at the time and still decent now, but T30 Rattrap is leaps and bounds superior to the original Basic Class toy in the 90's. The same goes for Waspinator, and even Rhinox. What is it about the T30 versions that is inferior to the original 1996 toys besides "not as nostalgic?"
SpikeyTigertron wrote:I'd have swore the cat head sat flusher to the body... so there's some rose-tinted nostalgia glasses I suppose...
Emerje wrote:Forgot I was going to comment to this.SpikeyTigertron wrote:I'd have swore the cat head sat flusher to the body... so there's some rose-tinted nostalgia glasses I suppose...
That's the "alternate" position for the head, the instructions say to point the head down.
Admittedly it isn't a good look, but it's what the cartoon model is based on and it doesn't stick out as far. Strangely (and somehow fittingly for such an odd figure), the Universe version went for the alternate head up look.
Emerje
Vindicated!D-Maximal_Primal wrote:the T30 one has a nice rat mode, but robot mode is not as articulated as it could be and is very fiddly to transform.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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