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AcademyofDrX wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Finally got Waspinator and Shadow Panther today from Hasbro Pulse. I'm a little disappointed that Waspinator has a bit of a fiddly transformation. The legs don't really "tab" securely into the forearms in beast mode, nor do the forearms stay in place, even with the tiny pegs pushed into the holes of the inner "spine" piece. Is it a tolerance issue with the plastic used? Shadow Panther is great, but I knew I would love it because I already love the mold as Cheetor.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I got Waspinator yesterday and mine doesn't want to stay tabbed at the waist. Sounds like it might be a common problem. Otherwise it's a pretty good figure.

william-james88 wrote:My waspinator doesntbtab securely in alt mide neither

King Kuuga wrote:I got Waspinator today as well. Found a healthy supply of Waves 3 and 4 deluxes at a target on the way back from seeing a movie. Passed on Shadow Panther and Rhinox. No Tigatron yet. I actually had to go back and put the first Waspinator I grabbed back on the peg when I noticed the waist was untabbed and grabbed the other one. Came home, messed with it, and found out that's a pretty easy point of separation. Why universe hate Waspinator indeed.

I saw Waspy a few times last week, but kept passing. I have the T-30 version and all this feedback reinforces my decision to skip him in Kingdom.

Whew, for once I successfully resisted the pull of plastic crack.

The robot waist tab doesn't seem to lock, but I don't know how that would be an issue unless you're trying to have him in-flight suspended by the torso instead of by the waist, but maybe I need to test that.

For the alt-mode, my arms lock securely and only pop out if I'm using too much force in the transformation. I can't tell if the top of the robot legs are locked to the abdomen, but the tabs in the lower legs don't seem to be designed to lock to the arms, just to slot in. At any rate, it took some fiddling, but my alt-mode is very secure, and I can handle the bug from any position and it stays in place.

my waspy has none of these problems. well, the waist tab could be tighter, but otherwise everything locks into place securely. for people that are having issues with the robot arms tabbing in, make sure you rotate his hands the right way. they wont fit right if you dont, which will keep the legs from tabbing in correctly.

Spider5800 wrote:Hmm, don't think those are stock images, Terrorsaur looks really mistransformed there. Hips in robot mode look way too skinny, and I'm pretty sure his legs should be further up the body in beast mode. It's like the person who transformed him didn't know what to do from the waist down.

They look absolutely legit to me. Take a brief look at the history of Hasbro stock photos and you'll see the figures being mistransformed is a bit of a running thing. Almost like they just give the toy to a photographer that has no experience with them and say "do your thing".

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Spider5800 wrote:Hmm, don't think those are stock images, Terrorsaur looks really mistransformed there. Hips in robot mode look way too skinny, and I'm pretty sure his legs should be further up the body in beast mode. It's like the person who transformed him didn't know what to do from the waist down.

They look absolutely legit to me. Take a brief look at the history of Hasbro stock photos and you'll see the figures being mistransformed is a bit of a running thing. Almost like they just give the toy to a photographer that has no experience with them and say "do your thing".

Whether they're truly stock photos or not, the waist is definitely mistransformed in robot mode, and may even be in alt mode. The announcement images have the waist configured correctly, which also shows the hips in the correct position (e.g. not reversed.)

Spider5800 wrote:Hmm, don't think those are stock images, Terrorsaur looks really mistransformed there.

Are you new in this hobby?
Because mistransformed stock pictures are pretty standard fare for Hasbro.

So it seems like wave 4 is starting to have regular saturation in most areas. Thankfully Tracks is part of that, since it appears distribution of wave 3 was very limited. (never showed up in my area) Although I was able to get what I wanted of it from Amazon. Hopefully Scorponok and Wingfinger will be included with Pipes and Slammer to fill out the 5th and final wave when they are released.

o.supreme wrote:So it seems like wave 4 is starting to have regular saturation in most areas. Thankfully Tracks is part of that, since it appears distribution of wave 3 was very limited. (never showed up in my area) Although I was able to get what I wanted of it from Amazon. Hopefully Scorponok and Wingfinger will be included with Pipes and Slammer to fill out the 5th and final wave when they are released.

I've been seeing cases of both waves 3 and 4 being put out together in a few stores near me.

Also wave 5 is already known, Airrazor and Blackarachnia will be the other 2 figures.

Well that's unfortunate. As popular as BA is, I'm pretty sure everyone who wanted one was able to obtain one as she wasn't hard to find. Airrazor wasn't seen as much, but not sure how much demand there is for her? But who knows, wave 3 could make a reappearance (wave 1 did during the summer which had even more BA's). Like I said, I am set, but for any who are still looking for wave 3 deluxe, I hope you are able to find them.

I pre-ordered Slammer on Amazon as I have little faith that wave 5 will actually show up in stores, but we shall see, I have been surprised before. Perhaps since Legacy isn't scheduled to start until later into 2022, the first quarter of the year could be Kingdom refresh waves.

I've had my Waspinator for at least a month and have had none of these issues people are describing, this sudden wave of "he's crap" comments confuses me. I like Kingdom Waspinator better than the T30 one, even.

Nemesis Primal wrote:I've had my Waspinator for at least a month and have had none of these issues people are describing, this sudden wave of "he's crap" comments confuses me. I like Kingdom Waspinator better than the T30 one, even.

I don't have him yet so I can't comment on his physical qualities, but his proportions look way more accurate, and his beast mode looks outstanding, like most of the Kingdom beast modes. Plus, yellow shoulders at last!

Nemesis Primal wrote:I've had my Waspinator for at least a month and have had none of these issues people are describing, this sudden wave of "he's crap" comments confuses me. I like Kingdom Waspinator better than the T30 one, even.

I don't have him and will be skipping him, but mainly on looks. I really don't like the look of the wasp legs on the Kingdom version. For me, the biggest draw is the transformation, and it sounds like this version is basically the same. So the only way I was going to buy is if it just spoke to me when I saw him on the pegs, and it did not. He doesn't look terrible to me or anything, just not good enough to get when I'm happy with T-30.

I did almost get one last week. I saw him in 3 different Targets on Wednesday and passed. Then on Friday Target added Transformers to the BOGO 50% sale that ended Saturday, but I couldn't find another one. I would have gave him a chance on sale, but instead re-bought Shadow Panther and Road Rage to get the sale price on them and then promptly returned them on my full price receipts instead.

With the holiday sales coming up, who knows, maybe I'll give him another chance, but only on a discount.

.... does anyone else think this pic makes it look like Terrorsaur may need more fiber in his diet.




hes totally taking a squat here

Nemesis Primal wrote:I've had my Waspinator for at least a month and have had none of these issues people are describing, this sudden wave of "he's crap" comments confuses me. I like Kingdom Waspinator better than the T30 one, even.

My only issue is that the tab that connects his waist to his upper torso in robot mode doesn't "lock" and is prone to coming apart if you try to pose him. It can certainly be put right back in there but it's purely friction holding it, not a click tab or anything. Not a deal breaker by any means.

And that Terrorsaur, were the goofiest remold, what I ever did see....

Ohh Terrorsaur, what have they done to thee...

Beast mode:

Legs are too far apart and not pushed up onto the torso enough, giving him a "I'm squatting in the forest" look.

Robot Mode:

Crotch is backwards, feet are backwards, torso is not collapsed down completely.

This is what the sitting beast mode should look like:



As for Waspinator.. yes he's loose. The toros does not lock in in robot mode. And the Wasp legs get in the way.

Outside of that he's fine. But I'm still a bit disappointed with him. Still Megs needs minions to command.

I'll be happy when Terrorsaur ships and can be reunited with his master. Then just hoping for Tarantulas and Inferno to complete the season 1 Predacons.

Overcracker wrote:Ohh Terrorsaur, what have they done to thee...

Beast mode:

Legs are too far apart and not pushed up onto the torso enough, giving him a "I'm squatting in the forest" look.

Robot Mode:

Crotch is backwards, feet are backwards, torso is not collapsed down completely.

This is what the sitting beast mode should look like:

Eagle.jpg

As for Waspinator.. yes he's loose. The toros does not lock in in robot mode. And the Wasp legs get in the way.

Outside of that he's fine. But I'm still a bit disappointed with him. Still Megs needs minions to command.

I'll be happy when Terrorsaur ships and can be reunited with his master. Then just hoping for Tarantulas and Inferno to complete the season 1 Predacons.

I don't care about his alt-mode accuracy, TBH. I'm concerned with his robot mode likeness and that he's a season one Predacon.

sol magnus wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Ohh Terrorsaur, what have they done to thee...

Beast mode:

Legs are too far apart and not pushed up onto the torso enough, giving him a "I'm squatting in the forest" look.

Robot Mode:

Crotch is backwards, feet are backwards, torso is not collapsed down completely.

This is what the sitting beast mode should look like:

Eagle.jpg

As for Waspinator.. yes he's loose. The toros does not lock in in robot mode. And the Wasp legs get in the way.

Outside of that he's fine. But I'm still a bit disappointed with him. Still Megs needs minions to command.

I'll be happy when Terrorsaur ships and can be reunited with his master. Then just hoping for Tarantulas and Inferno to complete the season 1 Predacons.

I don't care about his alt-mode accuracy, TBH. I'm concerned with his robot mode likeness and that he's a season one Predacon.

Then you are covered. The robot mode as we have seen is pretty much spot on to cartoon Terrorsaur.

Here is the correct robot mode for him:

Playing around with Waspinator in robot mode, I the the absence of locking tabs may be intentional. It's not just the waist that doesn't lock, but also the wasp head. If you're twisting him at the waist, depending on the position of the mandibles, they can press against the hips, or the wasp head can press against the front of the pelvis. Leaving these collections loose means that trying to turn the waist too far will push them apart rather than damage any of the plastic. I think it's a reasonable trade-off that enables more poseability while limiting breakage risk.

Got my Waspinator and Shadow Panther. I knew I'd love the panther, I really like the cheetor mold and it looks good in black with the mutant face. Waspinator is a floppy mess, and those bug legs are really getting in the way. I don't know what it is about him, but to me, he is with Rhinox where the kingdom figure just isn't doing it for me too much. I love the colors and sculpt, but he's too finnicky

Nemesis Primal wrote:I've had my Waspinator for at least a month and have had none of these issues people are describing, this sudden wave of "he's crap" comments confuses me. I like Kingdom Waspinator better than the T30 one, even.

I don't think anyone is trying to crap on Waspinator. The universe has that covered already. Seriously, though, I do like the look of the Kingdom Waspinator, it's just that it comes at a price (for me) of a fiddly transformation.

Just one opinion, but I actually really like the robot mode of Terrorsaur...
The peg ankles are my only negative critique.
I really don't even mind that he looks like he's smiling.

For Voyager Wave 5, do we know yet who will be shipping along with Blaster? It can't just be a solid case of 3 Blasters, right?

Wolfman Jake wrote:For Voyager Wave 5, do we know yet who will be shipping along with Blaster? It can't just be a solid case of 3 Blasters, right?

It could, but I would imagine Tigatron since the others had repacks?

sol magnus wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:For Voyager Wave 5, do we know yet who will be shipping along with Blaster? It can't just be a solid case of 3 Blasters, right?

It could, but I would imagine Tigatron since the others had repacks?

I'd be willing to bet that it'd be 2 Tigatrons and a Blaster, with wave 1 of Legacy serving as the main method most fans will be able to get Blaster

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:For Voyager Wave 5, do we know yet who will be shipping along with Blaster? It can't just be a solid case of 3 Blasters, right?

It could, but I would imagine Tigatron since the others had repacks?

I'd be willing to bet that it'd be 2 Tigatrons and a Blaster, with wave 1 of Legacy serving as the main method most fans will be able to get Blaster

Could be.

For Blaster, as long as I get him I don't care what box he comes in since I no longer keep every box.

Absolutely in love with Kingdom! Give me more beasts!