The Energon Pub

o.supreme wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:That Eject is going to be smaller than the Prime Wars Rewind was, right?

Do you mean Titans Return? All Cassettes released during TR were for the TR Leader Blaster & Soundwave.

All Cassettes (included as "micromasters") in the WFC Trilogy have been smaller and compatible with the various voyager Soundwaves/Soundblaster. * And Doubledealer as well. Eject will be the same size as all the others to accommodate Kingdom (and the Legacy repack) Voyager Blaster.

That's pretty much what I thought. Just wanted confirmation.

What? No Terrorsaur? That's right, he's an exclusive... I was hoping it would be easy to complete the main BW characters...

Why?



Why not?

Triggerdick Megatron wrote:What? No Terrorsaur? That's right, he's an exclusive... I was hoping it would be easy to complete the main BW characters...

Terrorsaur had already been revealed. Yes, he’s an exclusive, but one of the easier exclusives to get in and out of the U.S, since he’s an Amazon Exclusive.

He was super easy to pre-order. He’s out of stock now but still.

Its not like a Target Exclusive or Best buy exclusive where you need black magic to pre-order something if you are not in ‘Murrica.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

King Kuuga wrote:It's good to finally have these recognized. It seems weird to have Hasbro state outright that they're retools, usually they don't acknowledge that. I'll get them all and that'll do me for Kingdom.

It is even more odd that they are claiming Slammer is a heavy retool Ironworks. I don't see a single part they chare in common and they definitely don't transform/assemble in the same way.

Could Hasbro be trolling us?

It's got to be the first time I've seen Hasbro do this. I'm impressed.

I might have to get Blaster and cancel my preorder for Perceptor since he’s looking kind of plain. Starting to feel like I’ve got too many bots. Looking forward to more cassette tapes.

Changewinds wrote:Starting to feel like I’ve got too many bots.

We all have that feeling sooner or later.

But know what?

In truth we never have enough!

Changewinds wrote:I might have to get Blaster and cancel my preorder for Perceptor since he’s looking kind of plain. Starting to feel like I’ve got too many bots. Looking forward to more cassette tapes.

Same for Perceptor and also same for too many bots. I need to split my BW shelf into show and non-show characters but I don't have any more shelves, because that case is already made of 4 shelves of G1 and a Prime shelf. And my bookcase that I use for actual books is also holding my Bumblebee movie stuff. So many toys, so little space, and they just keep coming.
And yet I continue.

I'm gonna do an article for the year end review and my toy of the year will go to Rodimus Prime. Sure, I totally get the idea that it's not fun to spend 80$ on a voyager class figure in a chug line.

BUT, what if I told you Hasbro was releasing a new Rodimus Prime in a line called Gen MP, which was a line of toys made to fit a Chug scale but with MP level engineering. And he came with a trailer, turret platform, accessories (matrix, sword of Primus, effect parts) and was only 80$!!!!

Because that's what this Rodimus Prime toy is, truly. More complex than MP-10 with similar number of accessories. And since he's chug scale, he's 80$ instead of 150$ (hell, this released these days in MP scale and MP quality, we'd be looking at $250).

I for one thank our Hasbro overlords for trusting me to understand what I am getting in this 80$ package.

william-james88 wrote:I'm gonna do an article for the year end review and my toy of the year will go to Rodimus Prime. Sure, I totally get the idea that it's not fun to spend 80$ on a voyager class figure in a chug line.

BUT, what if I told you Hasbro was releasing a new Rodimus Prime in a line called Gen MP, which was a line of toys made to fit a Chug scale but with MP level engineering. And he came with a trailer, turret platform, accessories (matrix, sword of Primus, effect parts) and was only 80$!!!!

Because that's what this Rodimus Prime toy is, truly. More complex than MP-10 with similar number of accessories. And since he's chug scale, he's 80$ instead of 150$ (hell, this released these days in MP scale and MP quality, we'd be looking at $250).

I for one thank our Hasbro overlords for trusting me to understand what I am getting in this 80$ package.

Indeed. Having it in hand, Its totally worth the $80. I agree it is a worthy recipient of best toy fo the year award.

Involved transformation with really interesting engineering, without being super complex, lots of accessories, a huge trailer with a huge cannon. He's awesome.

One of the finest examples of what Hasbro can do with the appropriate budget. If they gave us a Commander Class Armada Prime in a similar vein I would be over the moon.

I can totally see Hasbro re-releasing him without the trailer and just a couple of accessories as a Leader Class. And a Select's release as Rodimus Unicronus would also not surprise me.

Its definitely the ultimate Rodimus Prime.

william-james88 wrote:I for one thank our Hasbro overlords for trusting me to understand what I am getting in this 80$ package.

Me too.

Also, I remember that people were bitching about Siege Jetfire for roughly the same reasons. "Too cheap", "Too this", "Too that", "Will only get on sale" and mostly "WAAAAAAAAAHHHHH TOO EXPENSIIIIIIIIIVE!"

Look at it now at eBay.com in US dollars:
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Same thing will happen with Rodimus next year or the one after.

william-james88 wrote:I'm gonna do an article for the year end review and my toy of the year will go to Rodimus Prime. Sure, I totally get the idea that it's not fun to spend 80$ on a voyager class figure in a chug line.

BUT, what if I told you Hasbro was releasing a new Rodimus Prime in a line called Gen MP, which was a line of toys made to fit a Chug scale but with MP level engineering. And he came with a trailer, turret platform, accessories (matrix, sword of Primus, effect parts) and was only 80$!!!!

Because that's what this Rodimus Prime toy is, truly. More complex than MP-10 with similar number of accessories. And since he's chug scale, he's 80$ instead of 150$ (hell, this released these days in MP scale and MP quality, we'd be looking at $250).

I for one thank our Hasbro overlords for trusting me to understand what I am getting in this 80$ package.

This really makes me hope we'll get Optimal Optimus and Armada Optimus Prime in commander class, eventually.

Rtron wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I'm gonna do an article for the year end review and my toy of the year will go to Rodimus Prime. Sure, I totally get the idea that it's not fun to spend 80$ on a voyager class figure in a chug line.

BUT, what if I told you Hasbro was releasing a new Rodimus Prime in a line called Gen MP, which was a line of toys made to fit a Chug scale but with MP level engineering. And he came with a trailer, turret platform, accessories (matrix, sword of Primus, effect parts) and was only 80$!!!!

Because that's what this Rodimus Prime toy is, truly. More complex than MP-10 with similar number of accessories. And since he's chug scale, he's 80$ instead of 150$ (hell, this released these days in MP scale and MP quality, we'd be looking at $250).

I for one thank our Hasbro overlords for trusting me to understand what I am getting in this 80$ package.

This really makes me hope we'll get Optimal Optimus and Armada Optimus Prime in commander class, eventually.

Unlikely will see another Optimal Optimus. We got PotP Optimal and he's a fairly good representation of him all in all. Obviously not as complex and packed as Roddy but still not a bad figure overall.

Armada Prime should rear its head sooner rather than later since its 20th anniversary is coming.

I'd be willing to stab an old lady to get a Commander Class Armada Optimus for sure.

william-james88 wrote:Gen MP

Well... Technically... We kinda-sorta-ish have already had something akin to similar to like that in a way, so to speak.

A number of Hasbro's MP releases were sold under the Generations label and those of its predecessors like Classics and Universe.

Overcracker wrote:Armada Prime should rear its head sooner rather than later since its 20th anniversary is coming.

I'd be willing to stab an old lady to get a Commander Class Armada Optimus for sure.

Hasbro loves their big optimus prime toys, and Armada Prime hasn't been revisited. They are doing G2 Prime for 2022 so we won't see him next year but I am sure he is at some stage of development. And anniversaries don't really count for much, they are more of a coincidence, even if they are mentionned. Beast Wars is a bigger phenomenon within the TF franchise and nothing happened in it's 20th anniversary.

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Armada Prime should rear its head sooner rather than later since its 20th anniversary is coming.

I'd be willing to stab an old lady to get a Commander Class Armada Optimus for sure.

Hasbro loves their big optimus prime toys, and Armada Prime hasn't been revisited. They are doing G2 Prime for 2022 so we won't see him next year but I am sure he is at some stage of development. And anniversaries don't really count for much, they are more of a coincidence, even if they are mentionned. Beast Wars is a bigger phenomenon within the TF franchise and nothing happened in it's 20th anniversary.

Case in point, back at BotCon 2012, there was a panel with Garry Chalk and David Kaye that was advertised as an "Armada 10th Anniversary Voice Actor Panel", but all that Chalk, Kaye, and everyone who asked them questions wanted to talk about was Beast Wars, Animated (since Kaye was Optimus), and ReBoot.

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Armada Prime should rear its head sooner rather than later since its 20th anniversary is coming.

I'd be willing to stab an old lady to get a Commander Class Armada Optimus for sure.

Hasbro loves their big optimus prime toys, and Armada Prime hasn't been revisited. They are doing G2 Prime for 2022 so we won't see him next year but I am sure he is at some stage of development. And anniversaries don't really count for much, they are more of a coincidence, even if they are mentionned. Beast Wars is a bigger phenomenon within the TF franchise and nothing happened in it's 20th anniversary.

True, but here we are in its 25th and we got a pretty full line of BW figures.

Still, I acknowledge the anniversaries aren't quite that important either way.

But yeah, Armada Prime is the only one from the Unicron Trilogy that has not received some type of update. Be it the year of the.. release for Energon or the Siege Cybertron Prime they have been at least acknowledged. Armada not so much. The only apparent update was that Takara prototype we saw with PotP Star Convoy that never made it past Prototype stage.

I'm fairly sure we'll see an Armada Prime in the next maybe 2 or 3 years.

Overcracker wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Armada Prime should rear its head sooner rather than later since its 20th anniversary is coming.

I'd be willing to stab an old lady to get a Commander Class Armada Optimus for sure.

Hasbro loves their big optimus prime toys, and Armada Prime hasn't been revisited. They are doing G2 Prime for 2022 so we won't see him next year but I am sure he is at some stage of development. And anniversaries don't really count for much, they are more of a coincidence, even if they are mentionned. Beast Wars is a bigger phenomenon within the TF franchise and nothing happened in it's 20th anniversary.

True, but here we are in its 25th and we got a pretty full line of BW figures.

Ok, so then just wait 5 more years

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Armada Prime should rear its head sooner rather than later since its 20th anniversary is coming.

I'd be willing to stab an old lady to get a Commander Class Armada Optimus for sure.

Hasbro loves their big optimus prime toys, and Armada Prime hasn't been revisited. They are doing G2 Prime for 2022 so we won't see him next year but I am sure he is at some stage of development. And anniversaries don't really count for much, they are more of a coincidence, even if they are mentionned. Beast Wars is a bigger phenomenon within the TF franchise and nothing happened in it's 20th anniversary.

True, but here we are in its 25th and we got a pretty full line of BW figures.

Ok, so then just wait 5 more years

We may only hope whoever is in charge of the brand in 2027 cares enough about the UT to celebrate that anniversary. A not insignificant amount of fans are here because of those shows.

King Kuuga wrote:We may only hope whoever is in charge of the brand in 2027 cares enough about the UT to celebrate that anniversary. A not insignificant amount of fans are here because of those shows.

That could work. It will be a year after the 40th anniversary of TFTM (any you know they are going to celebrate that every 5 years) so there should be room.

william-james88 wrote:Was playing with my RID 2015 collection with my kid and I will say this:

RID 2015 Scorponok > Kingdom Scorponok

Wanted to come back to this.

I actually really like the Kingdom Scorponok, I can sort of understand why he isn't a lot of peoples favorite, but I really enjoy him and don't see much really wrong with him.

As for RiD2015 scorponok, I only got the Paralon repaint, and I actually use him as my Transmetal Scorponok. He has been on my Beast Wars shelf for a while now.

As for Pipes and Slammer, they both look good, and I will get both of them. Those 2 and Tigatron will be my last Kingdom figures, and they will help bolster the Lost Light crew and to complete my Metroplex at long last

Changewinds wrote:I might have to get Blaster and cancel my preorder for Perceptor since he’s looking kind of plain. Starting to feel like I’ve got too many bots. Looking forward to more cassette tapes.

I'd recommend getting both.
Someone else said Perceptor looks "boring"... I'm not sure what people expect from this figure, especially being in the SS86 subline...
I brokedown about 2 years ago and went against my tendency to only get Decepticons... And suddenly yeah, of course my Autobots out-number my 'cons.
I think this may be a small reason I'm so excited for Insecticons, Stunticons, and Blitzwing.
And yes, I also can't wait to see Core Class Rumble!!!

I am also on the Kingdom Scorponok bandwagon. My only qualm with him is the part of the transformation where you stick the leg into the tail. But it's not even really a bad design, just odd and unique.

And didn't BotCon 2016 have a Beast Wars theme of sorts for its 20th anniversary?

I still wouldn't pay $80 for Rodimus even if he was labeled a Generations MP. It's not about the level of engineering for me, it's about having to pay for that massive plastic box that he doesn't really need, even if it makes his vehicle mode accurate, which is what Kingdom was going for. So I understand why it's there, but it's not appealing to me.

And I didn't pay $80 for Jetfire either, and I'm glad I didn't because to me he wasn't worth it. Sold him about 3 weeks later for that much, though.

Rodimus Prime wrote:And didn't BotCon 2016 have a Beast Wars theme of sorts for its 20th anniversary?

In a sense, but it was more to promote the Beast Wars: Uprising story.