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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:10 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:For Voyager Wave 5, do we know yet who will be shipping along with Blaster? It can't just be a solid case of 3 Blasters, right?

It could, but I would imagine Tigatron since the others had repacks?


Inferno is the only shortpacked Voyager not to get a repack so far. I would hope it would be 2 Blaster 1 Inferno to even things out.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:21 pm

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sol magnus wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:For Voyager Wave 5, do we know yet who will be shipping along with Blaster? It can't just be a solid case of 3 Blasters, right?

It could, but I would imagine Tigatron since the others had repacks?


Inferno is the only shortpacked Voyager not to get a repack so far. I would hope it would be 2 Blaster 1 Inferno to even things out.
Inferno's not part of Kingdom Wave 5.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:28 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:For Voyager Wave 5, do we know yet who will be shipping along with Blaster? It can't just be a solid case of 3 Blasters, right?

It could, but I would imagine Tigatron since the others had repacks?


Inferno is the only shortpacked Voyager not to get a repack so far. I would hope it would be 2 Blaster 1 Inferno to even things out.
Inferno's not part of Kingdom Wave 5.


Cyclonus wasn't part of wave 3, and Rhinox wasn't part of wave 4, yet they still got repacked in those waves.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby King Kuuga » Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:46 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:For Voyager Wave 5, do we know yet who will be shipping along with Blaster? It can't just be a solid case of 3 Blasters, right?

It could, but I would imagine Tigatron since the others had repacks?


Inferno is the only shortpacked Voyager not to get a repack so far. I would hope it would be 2 Blaster 1 Inferno to even things out.
Inferno's not part of Kingdom Wave 5.

We only have one new voyager in the wave, they come in cases of 3, they're almost certainly not going to ship an entire case of 3 Blasters, ergo one or two of the spots will be filled by other figures. o.supreme is suggesting Inferno because he hasn't been repacked in any previous assortment.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby partholon » Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:49 am

Boom.

Roddy is down to 89.99 now in smyths in ireland. theyve got their new stock in cause numbers are way up on my last check.

seeing as he's the same price as jetfire was ill pick him up.

thinking of getting him with beastwars megs as theyve dropped him to 50 quid and both are up for home delivery so i dont even have to leave the gaff.

though that said original beat wars megs is 40 quid.


theyve got track shadow panther and waspinator in to but TBH im not that pushed on them and ive already got an original G1 tracks.

still nice to see the patience pay off. i was worried roddy would sell out ala scourge. his price point is very high for most normies.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sun Nov 14, 2021 1:13 pm

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King Kuuga wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:For Voyager Wave 5, do we know yet who will be shipping along with Blaster? It can't just be a solid case of 3 Blasters, right?

It could, but I would imagine Tigatron since the others had repacks?


Inferno is the only shortpacked Voyager not to get a repack so far. I would hope it would be 2 Blaster 1 Inferno to even things out.
Inferno's not part of Kingdom Wave 5.

We only have one new voyager in the wave, they come in cases of 3, they're almost certainly not going to ship an entire case of 3 Blasters, ergo one or two of the spots will be filled by other figures. o.supreme is suggesting Inferno because he hasn't been repacked in any previous assortment.


We don't know what figures would qualify as "case fillers", but I think one with more recent runs are more likely to be used. Rhinox is Tigatron's case mate, so chances are those will be used, with Blaster as the only new figure.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:25 pm

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rodimus Prime » Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:01 am

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:58 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:Is he worth the price?

It honestly depends on how you view the G1 cassette. I don't care about it at all, so the $52 package price is not worth it to me even though I bought it. That being said, Ravage is awesome and worth about $35 to me. I would have gladly paid that for just Ravage in a regular package.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:10 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Is he worth the price?


The bundle itself is borderline ok for price. Both figures are excellent but the problem is many of us (including me) don't care for an extra ravage casette. But yes, I would (and did) pay more than deluxe price for this Ravage figure. I do not regret my purchase and I am happy to finally have this character in my collection and realized in such a standout way.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby sol magnus » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:15 am

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For my part, while I wanted it, I could NOT justify the price point. I may get it if they offer it again like they did with Pit of Judgement.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Munkky » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:55 am

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I'd say the Ravage set isn't really worth the high price tag, if it were 5 or $10 cheaper then maybe. That being said it is a good set, Covert Agent Ravage turned out really well, one of the better retools I've seen in the War for Cybertron Trilogy, and it's nice to have a G1 Ravage because the Siege/Netflix Micromaster Ravage is not a great figure by comparison, and the G1 Ravage looks much better next to Soundwave.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Emerje » Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:49 pm

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I have a bunch of G1 Ravage figures and was going to leave him in the box, but I decided to take him out after all. I was shocked to see he had tape details on both sides! Now I'm glad he was included, this is easily my favorite version of G1 Ravage and the extra paint makes the price tag easier to accept. I love this set, for me it's only a little over priced, I think $45 would have been better.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:48 pm

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:Is he worth the price?

It honestly depends on how you view the G1 cassette. I don't care about it at all, so the $52 package price is not worth it to me even though I bought it. That being said, Ravage is awesome and worth about $35 to me. I would have gladly paid that for just Ravage in a regular package.

Kev said it best: The price to me just isn't worth it, this set should have been maybe $41.99 at most? Ravage is great don't get me wrong, but $52.99 was too steep honestly
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Tue Nov 16, 2021 11:34 pm

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I don't know where, but someone said they were surprised that Ractonite was the one that they kept seeing unsold, rather than Arcee. Now I know people replied that it was not the same in their area, but it is in mine. I remembered that today when I saw this at my Toysrus. Granted, it's only 4 kingdom deluxes, and since the line is still ongoing, it's way too early to call any of this shelf warming (you tend to wait till a line is over and another line has started to say that). These will all sell by Christmas, but I was still fascinated that it's Ractonite who is selling less well than Arcee.

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Postby King Kuuga » Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:13 am

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Arcee may not be a good toy but she's still an iconic character. I'd hazard a guess that her presence in the Cyberverse series isn't hurting that.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Destron » Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:19 pm

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King Kuuga wrote:Arcee may not be a good toy but she's still an iconic character. I'd hazard a guess that her presence in the Cyberverse series isn't hurting that.



Glad you mentioned the pink one King...I'm sure it's been commented on before but I was out that day. :-P So unless :HASBRO: / :TAKARATOMY: still has plans, will Arcee be a part of the Studio '86 line? :VEHI:
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:47 pm

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Glad you mentioned the pink one King...I'm sure it's been commented on before but I was out that day. :-P So unless :HASBRO: / :TAKARATOMY: still has plans, will Arcee be a part of the Studio '86 line? :VEHI:


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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:02 pm

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Was playing with my RID 2015 collection with my kid and I will say this:

RID 2015 Scorponok > Kingdom Scorponok
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby King Kuuga » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:05 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Was playing with my RID 2015 collection with my kid and I will say this:

RID 2015 Scorponok > Kingdom Scorponok

I don't own that figure but Kingdom Scorponok is absolute garbage so I believe you.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:16 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Was playing with my RID 2015 collection with my kid and I will say this:

RID 2015 Scorponok > Kingdom Scorponok

I don't own that figure but Kingdom Scorponok is absolute garbage so I believe you.


You know what's crazy? I am a HUGE beast wars fan. So you would think that a line dedicated to revisiting all those iconic characters would have me over the moon. And yet, overall, I am really not impressed with the beasts in Kingdom. Scorponok, Waspinator, Rhinox Dinobot, and Cheetor are not great. Primal, Blackarachnia, Airazor and Megatron are fine. No complaints but I'm not wowed either. I would say Rattrap is the one figure I am most impressed with for doing so much with so little. I was far more impressed by Cyclonus (and many of the other 86 G1 bots in the SS 86 line).
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby King Kuuga » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:49 pm

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william-james88 wrote:You know what's crazy? I am a HUGE beast wars fan. So you would think that a line dedicated to revisiting all those iconic characters would have me over the moon. And yet, overall, I am really not impressed with the beasts in Kingdom. Scorponok, Waspinator, Rhinox and Cheetor are not great. Primal, Blackarachnia and Megatron are fine. No complaints but I'm not wowed either. I would say Rattrap is the one figure I am most impressed with for doing so much with so little. I was far more impressed by Cyclonus (and many of the other 86 G1 bots in the SS 86 line).

Honestly? I more or less agree with this.

Megatron and Dinobot are over-designed.
Primal is solid but really missing some of the fun gimmicks of the classic toy.
Cheetor is probably as good as he can be except for the shade of blue, and the netflix version has the right shade of blue but not everywhere because we can't have nice things.
Blackarachnia is Black Magic-nea.
Airazor and Waspinator are fine but not mind-blowing.
Scorponok is garbage.
Rattrap is extremely impressive for such a small figure and probably the best update he could get. (again I didn't buy the T30 one so maybe I'm off here)
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:16 pm

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I haven't purchase a single Beast yet (well except for fossilizes but...) I understand. As mentioned in other threads, while the core cast was very diverse, and the personalities were interesting, none of them drew me to purchase the original toys back in 1996 except for Tigatron (though I did get Transmetal Primal and Megs and a few others later). I am conflicted as to whether or not I want to get Kingdom Tigarton. True he was my favorite S1 character, but he will definitely stick out like a sore thumb in my collection of mostly combiners, titans, and anything adjacent or connected to them ;)
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Emerje » Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:47 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Was playing with my RID 2015 collection with my kid and I will say this:

RID 2015 Scorponok > Kingdom Scorponok

Totally agree. I pulled out TRU Paralon (I also have Adventures Scorponok) earlier this year and he's still a fun figure that's solid in both modes and makes for a better update than the Kingdom version. My only complaint is that I wish his colors were more varied and he's a robot scorpion rather than made to look like a real one. Then again, the original BW Scorponok is better than the Kingdom version, they'll have no problem selling the reissue. There's an idea for a top 5 list, "5 Modern Updates that are Worse than the Original".

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:35 pm

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Emerje wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Was playing with my RID 2015 collection with my kid and I will say this:

RID 2015 Scorponok > Kingdom Scorponok

Totally agree. I pulled out TRU Paralon (I also have Adventures Scorponok) earlier this year and he's still a fun figure that's solid in both modes and makes for a better update than the Kingdom version. My only complaint is that I wish his colors were more varied and he's a robot scorpion rather than made to look like a real one. Then again, the original BW Scorponok is better than the Kingdom version, they'll have no problem selling the reissue. There's an idea for a top 5 list, "5 Modern Updates that are Worse than the Original".

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