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War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:06 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Was playing with my RID 2015 collection with my kid and I will say this:

RID 2015 Scorponok > Kingdom Scorponok

Totally agree. I pulled out TRU Paralon (I also have Adventures Scorponok) earlier this year and he's still a fun figure that's solid in both modes and makes for a better update than the Kingdom version. My only complaint is that I wish his colors were more varied and he's a robot scorpion rather than made to look like a real one. Then again, the original BW Scorponok is better than the Kingdom version, they'll have no problem selling the reissue. There's an idea for a top 5 list, "5 Modern Updates that are Worse than the Original".

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So would Cheetor and/or Sky Lynx still be on the list if you made it today? Would ER Sky Lynx take him off the list completely and be replaced by BW Scorponok? Would Kingdom Cheetor push him further down or off completely?

Edit: Interesting that new figures can both take a character out of the running, or make them eligible for the list that didn't have an update previously.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:26 pm

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Was playing with my RID 2015 collection with my kid and I will say this:

RID 2015 Scorponok > Kingdom Scorponok

Totally agree. I pulled out TRU Paralon (I also have Adventures Scorponok) earlier this year and he's still a fun figure that's solid in both modes and makes for a better update than the Kingdom version. My only complaint is that I wish his colors were more varied and he's a robot scorpion rather than made to look like a real one. Then again, the original BW Scorponok is better than the Kingdom version, they'll have no problem selling the reissue. There's an idea for a top 5 list, "5 Modern Updates that are Worse than the Original".

Emerje


Already done

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So would Cheetor and/or Sky Lynx still be on the list if you made it today? Would ER Sky Lynx take him off the list completely and be replaced by BW Scorponok? Would Kingdom Cheetor push him further down or off completely?

Edit: Interesting that new figures can both take a character out of the running, or make them eligible for the list that didn't have an update previously.


Not sure, but I would find a way to include MPM Optimus Prime this time around as that toy proved to be not as good as the ROTF mold it was imitating.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Emerje » Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:50 pm

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Yeah, I think that whole list could use a second look. Fort Max probably still deserves the top spot, but I think Megatron and Sky Lynx can come off, maybe Cheetor, too, and I feel like we can do better than Tankor since both figures were doing entirely different things.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:14 am

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Emerje wrote:Yeah, I think that whole list could use a second look. Fort Max probably still deserves the top spot, but I think Megatron and Sky Lynx can come off, maybe Cheetor, too, and I feel like we can do better than Tankor since both figures were doing entirely different things.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby partholon » Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:23 pm

i think smyths have over orderd or something cause theres ANOTHER price drop.

the ARK is now €129.99 and Roddy is €83.99

that makes the ark a pretty good deal for IMO for those still waiting out.
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Hasbro Reveals Entirety of Kingdom Wave 5

Postby william-james88 » Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:06 pm

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Fans were wondering when Hasbro would reveal the remaining figures from Kingdom (or if they were still happening) since they were missing from the big Hasbro Pulse event that introduced us to the Legacy line.

Well, Hasbro has now revealed what they say are the final 3 toys from the Kingdom line: Deluxe Autobot Slammer, Deluxe Autobot Pipes, and Voyager Autobot Blaster

These do not have preorders but Blaster's release in Legacy can be preordered on various sites since he is part of the wave 1 voyagers and comes packed with Bulkhead when purchasing the 2 voyagers option.

Here is what Hasbro stated along with official photos:

Things are ramping up over here on Transformers! We missed #TransformersTuesday, so Transformers THURSDAY it is! Check out the last 3 toy reveals for War for Cybertron: Kingdom – Deluxe Autobot Slammer, Deluxe Autobot Pipes, and Voyager Autobot Blaster and Autobot Eject. All figures COMING SOON to retail, so keep your (eyes emoji) peeled.

Autobot Pipes is a partial tool of Huffer and is based on his G1 animation appearance featuring all-new head, waist, chest, tires, forearms, shoulders, and accessories. This figure converts to mini truck mode and comes with 2 pipe blaster accessories and a newly tooled cartoon-accurate head. The back cab even allows you to show off his Autobot emblem.
Autobot Slammer is a heavy partial of Ironworks, featuring 5 new tools! This figure is based off the original 1986 Slammer toy that came with G1 Metroplex and converts to his classic tank mode. Autobot Slammer is also a weaponizer! Break the figure apart to equip other figures with missile launcher, chainsaw, and turret blaster accessories.
Autobot Blaster is inspired by his animated appearance in the G1 series and comes with his cassette tape, Autobot Eject. Autobot Blaster converts to boombox mode. The figure features detailed sculpt on the speakers, mini jetpack sculpt on its back, and side-to-side articulation on the front shin speakers. The Autobot Blaster figure’s finger is extended to press his spring-loaded eject button and automatically pop open his tape deck! Autobot Blaster comes with his classic electro scrambler blaster that Autobot Eject can hold.


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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:08 pm

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Things are ramping up over here on Transformers! We missed #TransformersTuesday, so Transformers THURSDAY it is!


SS fans, you no longer have to feel alone in that the highly anticipated next/last wave of your favorite toys is just dumped randomly on Social Media, now Kingdom gets the same treatment (although to be fair Blaster was revealed a few weeks ago on a privileged fans call).

So these being the "Last" of Kingdom meaning I guess there is no WFC-K36, or WFC-K43.

I know the Reformatted Galvatron doesn't have Kingdom Branding (It is just WFC "Unicron Companion Pack"), but it could unofficially have been one of the missing numbers.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rodimus Prime » Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:12 pm

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Blaster and Pipes are a most likely buy, I'm probably going to pass on Slammer, maybe pick him up later if there is an updated or brand new Metroplex coming in the next few years.

That Eject is going to be smaller than the Prime Wars Rewind was, right?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby DeathReviews » Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:17 pm

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Looks like a decent Blaster update - thankfully it seemingly doesn't appear to be just a remold of Soundwave! Hope this one is as easy to find as all the other figures have been lately :).
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:34 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:That Eject is going to be smaller than the Prime Wars Rewind was, right?


Do you mean Titans Return? All Cassettes released during TR were for the TR Leader Blaster & Soundwave.

All Cassettes (included as "micromasters") in the WFC Trilogy have been smaller and compatible with the various voyager Soundwaves/Soundblaster. * And Doubledealer as well. Eject will be the same size as all the others to accommodate Kingdom (and the Legacy repack) Voyager Blaster.

Slammer is the only one of these last 3 I pre-ordered months ago. Nobody has shown off the alleged "hidden" but designed way it can interact with T30 Metroplex, but I look forward to it, no need to wait for a new version.
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Re: Hasbro Reveals Entirety of Kingdom Wave 5

Postby King Kuuga » Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:50 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Fans were wondering when Hasbro would reveal the remaining figures from Kingdom (or if they were still happening) since they were missing from the big Hasbro Pulse event that introduced us to the Legacy line.

Well, Hasbro has now revealed what they say are the final 3 toys from the Kingdom line: Deluxe Autobot Slammer, Deluxe Autobot Pipes, and Voyager Autobot Blaster

These do not have preorders but Blaster's release in Legacy can be preordered on various sites since he is part of the wave 1 voyagers and comes packed with Bulkhead when purchasing the 2 voyagers option.

Here is what Hasbro stated along with official photos:

Things are ramping up over here on Transformers! We missed #TransformersTuesday, so Transformers THURSDAY it is! Check out the last 3 toy reveals for War for Cybertron: Kingdom – Deluxe Autobot Slammer, Deluxe Autobot Pipes, and Voyager Autobot Blaster and Autobot Eject. All figures COMING SOON to retail, so keep your (eyes emoji) peeled.

Autobot Pipes is a partial tool of Huffer and is based on his G1 animation appearance featuring all-new head, waist, chest, tires, forearms, shoulders, and accessories. This figure converts to mini truck mode and comes with 2 pipe blaster accessories and a newly tooled cartoon-accurate head. The back cab even allows you to show off his Autobot emblem.
Autobot Slammer is a heavy partial of Ironworks, featuring 5 new tools! This figure is based off the original 1986 Slammer toy that came with G1 Metroplex and converts to his classic tank mode. Autobot Slammer is also a weaponizer! Break the figure apart to equip other figures with missile launcher, chainsaw, and turret blaster accessories.
Autobot Blaster is inspired by his animated appearance in the G1 series and comes with his cassette tape, Autobot Eject. Autobot Blaster converts to boombox mode. The figure features detailed sculpt on the speakers, mini jetpack sculpt on its back, and side-to-side articulation on the front shin speakers. The Autobot Blaster figure’s finger is extended to press his spring-loaded eject button and automatically pop open his tape deck! Autobot Blaster comes with his classic electro scrambler blaster that Autobot Eject can hold.

Pictures are in no sort of order whatsoever, that's a bit jarring.

It's good to finally have these recognized. It seems weird to have Hasbro state outright that they're retools, usually they don't acknowledge that. I'll get them all and that'll do me for Kingdom.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Overcracker » Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:34 pm

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I was almost sure I'd skip Blaster. I have no particular attachment to the character, and never had the G1 toy, and really was not looking to pick him up. But the more I see of him, the more I like him. Damn.....

Also, many chance of a Twincast repaint :TAKARATOMY: ? I would not be opposed to having both of them.

Pipes I'll skip since I have the golden disk set already on pre-order. Don't need that many mini trucks.

Though if they paint him completely yellow and give him a crane, I'd totally go for him even if they don't call him "Erector".

Slammer I can happily skip.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Wolfman Jake » Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:42 pm

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Things are ramping up over here on Transformers! We missed #TransformersTuesday, so Transformers THURSDAY it is!


SS fans, you no longer have to feel alone in that the highly anticipated next/last wave of your favorite toys is just dumped randomly on Social Media, now Kingdom gets the same treatment (although to be fair Blaster was revealed a few weeks ago on a privileged fans call).

So these being the "Last" of Kingdom meaning I guess there is no WFC-K36, or WFC-K43.

I know the Reformatted Galvatron doesn't have Kingdom Branding (It is just WFC "Unicron Companion Pack"), but it could unofficially have been one of the missing numbers.


One of those might turn out to be the Earthrise Starscream repack we heard about all the way back when most of the retail Kingdom listings were leaked. We still don’t know who is shipping with Blaster in Voyager Wave 5 yet. Or, those numbers were set aside for Gears and Polar Claw before they were canceled.
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Re: Hasbro Reveals Entirety of Kingdom Wave 5

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:45 pm

King Kuuga wrote:It's good to finally have these recognized. It seems weird to have Hasbro state outright that they're retools, usually they don't acknowledge that. I'll get them all and that'll do me for Kingdom.


It is even more odd that they are claiming Slammer is a heavy retool Ironworks. I don't see a single part they chare in common and they definitely don't transform/assemble in the same way.

Could Hasbro be trolling us?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:47 pm

o.supreme wrote:So these being the "Last" of Kingdom meaning I guess there is no WFC-K36, or WFC-K43.


I'm thinking the whole reason Legacy and Selects aren't being numbered anymore was to avoid us obsessing over the missing numbers when any change in plans completely screws up the numbering, or when they simply forget what number they are on.
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Re: Hasbro Reveals Entirety of Kingdom Wave 5

Postby Nemesis Primal » Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:56 pm

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King Kuuga wrote:It's good to finally have these recognized. It seems weird to have Hasbro state outright that they're retools, usually they don't acknowledge that. I'll get them all and that'll do me for Kingdom.


It is even more odd that they are claiming Slammer is a heavy retool Ironworks. I don't see a single part they chare in common and they definitely don't transform/assemble in the same way.

Could Hasbro be trolling us?
Slammer absolutely shares Ironwork's thighs, but that's all I see.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Autobot_Benz » Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:58 pm

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So Hasbro isn't gonna officially announce Tigatron. Just gonna ignore it like they did Shadow Panther and Waspinatior?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:26 pm

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Autobot_Benz wrote:So Hasbro isn't gonna officially announce Tigatron. Just gonna ignore it like they did Shadow Panther and Waspinatior?


They acknowledged him and the fact that he had no official announcement in the big Pulse event when he won toy of the year.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Blaster and Pipes are a most likely buy, I'm probably going to pass on Slammer, maybe pick him up later if there is an updated or brand new Metroplex coming in the next few years.

That Eject is going to be smaller than the Prime Wars Rewind was, right?


Yup, way smaller

Wolfman Jake wrote:One of those might turn out to be the Earthrise Starscream repack we heard about all the way back when most of the retail Kingdom listings were leaked. We still don’t know who is shipping with Blaster in Voyager Wave 5 yet. Or, those numbers were set aside for Gears and Polar Claw before they were canceled.


Could also be core Hot Rod which had a Kingdom listing pop up recently but is instead being released in Legacy. Lots of options.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby AcademyofDrX » Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:56 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:That Eject is going to be smaller than the Prime Wars Rewind was, right?

Yup, way smaller

About half the size, see TR* and WFC Gen Selects Rumble for comparison.

Edit: technically a Bumblebee movie tie-in, I forgot how they released this guy.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Deadput » Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:11 pm

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Emerje » Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:17 pm

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Deadput wrote:What sort of madness drove Hasbro to cast Eject in translucent plastic?

It's the theme of the line, everyone except Dragstrip comes with a clear accessory.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rodimus Knight » Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:27 pm

Emerje wrote:
Deadput wrote:What sort of madness drove Hasbro to cast Eject in translucent plastic?

It's the theme of the line, everyone except Dragstrip comes with a clear accessory.

Emerje


An accessory is one thing, this is an entire clear character.

I wish they would have just done a normal looking one and a different clear item.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Emerje » Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:33 pm

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Deadput wrote:What sort of madness drove Hasbro to cast Eject in translucent plastic?

It's the theme of the line, everyone except Dragstrip comes with a clear accessory.

Emerje


An accessory is one thing, this is an entire clear character.

I wish they would have just done a normal looking one and a different clear item.

That might have been the original plan, notice how in the art he has a blue gun.

And just to be clear when I say the line I'm talking about Legacy where he was transplanted from.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:05 pm

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Energon gimmick madness
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Wolfman Jake » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:20 pm

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Deadput wrote:What sort of madness drove Hasbro to cast Eject in translucent plastic?


I wouldn’t worry too much. We’ll probably get a release of Rewind, Steeljaw, and Ramhorn later on, with an opaque plastic Eject to complete the classic quartet. As others have said, Eject is clear blue plastic to help Blaster fit the upcoming gimmick of the Legacy line where most figures come with a transparent plastic “energon” accessory.
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