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War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:48 pm

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Pixelmaster just confirmed some interesting tidbits about 3 figures.

Commander class Rodimus Prime. Apparently he'll come with blast effects, fishing rod, will be voyager sized, but leader parts count, and his trailer will be very similar to MP09's, in addition to the fact that his chest will be able to house the Matrix.

Voyager Dinobot has perfect proportions, but will be in toy colors, not Mainframe colors.

And I'll just quote their statements about Galvatron because I don't really know how to effectively paraphrase because I have no idea what most of the statement means:
Galvatron is... weird?

His railgun (at least in early versions) looks like Lockdown's face gun and is compressed into the orange cannon (similar to MPM Megatron's fusion cannon).

The hands should be able to open for the matrix he comes with.

Galvatron himself easily beats the **** out of TR (I mean, the standard is too low to not suck), but I don't see it worth leader class. Not sure how the final version would turn out.


So it sounds like next year is the year of Matrices :lol: Though, Rodimus sounds interesting... I'll need to see in hand images, but it sounds kind of promising
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:57 pm

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:Commander class Rodimus Prime. Apparently he'll come with blast effects, fishing rod, will be voyager sized, but leader parts count, and his trailer will be very similar to MP09's, in addition to the fact that his chest will be able to house the Matrix.
If he looks G1 enough, I want Takara to take this figure and give us a Primus redeco from it! :D

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Voyager Dinobot has perfect proportions, but will be in toy colors, not Mainframe colors.
Seriously, Hasbro! I HATE it when they do this! Why can't they understand that some of us (or arguable many of us) actually WANT to own toys that look like the characters we saw on television?

Who really wants a show-accurately-sculpted Dinobot to instead be colored like this:
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Instead of this?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nuclearxpotato » Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:20 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Who really wants a show-accurately-sculpted Dinobot to instead be colored like this:
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Instead of this?
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I'm probably wrong, but the Toy-based Deco will probably only really apply to Raptor Mode. If they're sculpting it like the show model, then the figure will have details unique to that and would kinda need to be decoed like the show (specifically everything below the waist).

Also, Pixelmaster is only seeing a hand-painted test-run right now so there's a high chance that the deco will be completely different.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:34 am

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Nemesis Primal wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:...so evidently Pixelmaster went on an absolute rampage (no, not the Predacon)
Which Predacon? There's too ;) :P :-D
I had meant the Beast Wars character when I made the joke since it's Kingdom info, but I suppose that either honestly works. :lol:
Saw the opportunity for a joke and couldn't pass it up.

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:Commander class Rodimus Prime. Apparently he'll come with blast effects, fishing rod, will be voyager sized, but leader parts count, and his trailer will be very similar to MP09's, in addition to the fact that his chest will be able to house the Matrix.
If he looks G1 enough, I want Takara to take this figure and give us a Primus redeco from it! :D
You do realize the gold chrome would probably bump the price up, right? It'd still be hilarious XD.

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:Voyager Dinobot has perfect proportions, but will be in toy colors, not Mainframe colors.
Seriously, Hasbro! I HATE it when they do this! Why can't they understand that some of us (or arguable many of us) actually WANT to own toys that look like the characters we saw on television?
I know, right? Rassa frassa Titans Return Kup and Blurr (and to a lesser extent, grumble grumble the insistence on making Hot Rod red instead of the film-accurate magenta)...

I would like to have words with Pixelmaster over the TR Galvatron-bashing :roll:

Oh, to the people who were saying they wanted Selects "Telemocha"-style versions... You sillies! That's what the Netflix line is for! :P If you don't mind some added grit of questionable quality, anyway.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Primal » Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:46 am

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:Commander class Rodimus Prime. Apparently he'll come with blast effects, fishing rod, will be voyager sized, but leader parts count, and his trailer will be very similar to MP09's, in addition to the fact that his chest will be able to house the Matrix.
Apollux confirmed basically all of that already except for I believe the fishing rod, interesting. I wonder if that obscure Sword of Primus Apollux had mentioned got cut in lieu of the fishing rod since that's recognizable from the movie, or if Apollux just missed it?

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Voyager Dinobot has perfect proportions, but will be in toy colors, not Mainframe colors.
...I fail to see how that's going to work, are his legs going to be solid translucent orange? He looked pretty show-accurate in what we could see of him on the poster/art for the line, but then again, the ER art has T30 Trailbreaker on it, so I guess the art isn't that indicitive...

Sentinel_Primal wrote:And I'll just quote their statements about Galvatron because I don't really know how to effectively paraphrase because I have no idea what most of the statement means:
Galvatron is... weird?

His railgun (at least in early versions) looks like Lockdown's face gun and is compressed into the orange cannon (similar to MPM Megatron's fusion cannon).

The hands should be able to open for the matrix he comes with.

Galvatron himself easily beats the **** out of TR (I mean, the standard is too low to not suck), but I don't see it worth leader class. Not sure how the final version would turn out.
So Apollux had mentioned previously that Galvatron comes with a Matrix and a chain to attach it to and wear it with, and a "railgun" that he didn't recognize as a pre-existing design that could connect to the end of his cannon or split in half and peg onto his back. That's what this new info is talking about, with Pixel adding that Galvatron has ER Optimus-style opening hands to hold said Matrix and doubling down on the railgun connecting to the cannon while also giving some reference for what it looks like (which I appreciate, as until now I'd just been picturing the railgun from Halo). Did that help that make more sense at all?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:56 am

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Nemesis Primal wrote:So Apollux had mentioned previously that Galvatron comes with a Matrix and a chain to attach it to and wear it with, and a "railgun" that he didn't recognize as a pre-existing design that could connect to the end of his cannon or split in half and peg onto his back. That's what this new info is talking about, with Pixel adding that Galvatron has ER Optimus-style opening hands to hold said Matrix and doubling down on the railgun connecting to the cannon while also giving some reference for what it looks like (which I appreciate, as until now I'd just been picturing the railgun from Halo). Did that help that make more sense at all?

Kinda, but part of the issue is that there's not enough description of Galvatron himself for me to really picture what the railgun will look like with Galvatron. It's not a big deal for me though because I tend to like the vague clues because it leaves a lot of the fun of seeing the figure revealed at an event intact, unlike seeing TonTon, PvP, and the other new guy getting everything before the line's even revealed
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:05 am

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Commander class Rodimus Prime. Apparently he'll come with blast effects, fishing rod, will be voyager sized, but leader parts count, and his trailer will be very similar to MP09's, in addition to the fact that his chest will be able to house the Matrix.
If he looks G1 enough, I want Takara to take this figure and give us a Primus redeco from it! :D
You do realize the gold chrome would probably bump the price up, right? It'd still be hilarious XD.
Who said anything about chrome? Takara can match the following appearance sufficiently enough with shiny metallic paint:

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:17 pm

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Nemesis Primal wrote:...so evidently Pixelmaster went on an absolute rampage (no, not the Predacon) yesterday in terms of info, and I'm attempting to gather up everything relevant for the good people of Seibertron to witness, so in terms of Kingdom content (although I suppose most of this would also fit in the Selects thread):
-Selects Road Rage (actually was mentioned a bit ago, but I don't think anyone posted it here)
-Apparently Hasbro is planning to keep Generations as half G1 half other stuff like Kingdom is if Kingdom sells well
-Selects Packrat packaged with someone else, Pixel doesn't know who yet
-Selects Transmutate from one of the Fossilizers, which one wasn't stated
-Direct statement that non-show/toy-only repaints are on the table for Selects, T-Wrecks was mentioned as an example but not stated to be confirmed like Packrat was
-Fox Kids decos are apparently possible for Selects, but Pixel says not to count on it due to how niche they are (even though niche is pretty much the point of Selects)

What I find most interesting about these is that mention of Transmutate, because we got that supposed leak of the Kingdom wave breakdowns a bit ago that mentioned a Selects Transmutate and Pixel was the one who said it didn't seem right when it got posted over on TFW. Maybe it's worth a second look?


So the news is selects roadrage from tracks, sekects transmutate frome a fossilizer and selects packrat packaged with someone else. is that correct?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Nemesis Primal » Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:19 pm

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william-james88 wrote:So the news is selects roadrage from tracks, sekects transmutate frome a fossilizer and selects packrat packaged with someone else. is that correct?
..yes, plus the details about Dinobot, Rodimus, and Galvatron that Sentinel Primal posted from the same source (Pixelmaster), but we don't actually have any real proof of this yet other than Pixel being a credible source of info 90% of the time (only things I've seen them get wrong have been Galactic Odyssey-related), just like everything we found out about Kingdom before the store listings and TonTon stuff showed up.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:26 pm

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william-james88 wrote:So the news is selects roadrage from tracks, sekects transmutate frome a fossilizer and selects packrat packaged with someone else. is that correct?
..yes, plus the details about Dinobot, Rodimus, and Galvatron that Sentinel Primal posted from the same source (Pixelmaster), but we don't actually have any real proof of this yet other than Pixel being a credible source of info 90% of the time (only things I've seen them get wrong have been Galactic Odyssey-related), just like everything we found out about Kingdom before the store listings and TonTon stuff showed up.
In other words, they are more leaks that are currently still in the rumor stage, just like all the previous rumors we've gotten from these leakers.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby MadProject » Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:15 am

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Here we got a new pic showing Kingdom toys in their packaging, found throught the Allspark server on Discord
https://discord.com/invite/ZnUQxya


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I'd like to put the attention that this should be first time we have a pic of the reprint of ER Optimus Prime in this line.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Overcracker » Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:41 am

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Artwork looks real nice. Specially Prime's.

Can't really tell if there's any major difference with the current Earthrise Prime.

Or if it will be like Magnus Earthrise vs Netflix with just minor cosmetic changes like the windshield.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:14 pm

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Overcracker wrote:Artwork looks real nice. Specially Prime's.

Can't really tell if there's any major difference with the current Earthrise Prime.

Or if it will be like Magnus Earthrise vs Netflix with just minor cosmetic changes like the windshield.
The rumors suggested it's just a repackaging of the unchanged ER figure.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Overcracker » Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:20 pm

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Overcracker wrote:Artwork looks real nice. Specially Prime's.

Can't really tell if there's any major difference with the current Earthrise Prime.

Or if it will be like Magnus Earthrise vs Netflix with just minor cosmetic changes like the windshield.
The rumors suggested it's just a repackaging of the unchanged ER figure.


O.k, so can totally skip it since I already have Earthrise Prime. Thanks.
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New Image of Transformers War for Cybertron Kingdom Wave 1 Deluxes, Voyagers and Leaders

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:01 pm

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Greetings Seibertronians! Fellow Seibertron user, MadProject has alerted us to new images that show the first wave of Transformers War For Cybertron Kingdom Deluxes, Voyagers and Leader Class toys removed from their boxes! These images were found on the Facebook page of DaimChoc Reports, but they claim to have sourced the pictures from SafetyKorea.kr

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In the first image you can see the first wave of Kingdom Deluxes (Blackarachnia, Warpath, Paleotrex and Cheetor) and of the Leaders (Beast Wars Megatron and Optimus Prime, who is a repack of Earthrise Leader Class Optimus Prime). This is our first look at the repack Optimus, now in Kingdom packaging and, like all the other Kingdom releases, sporting a Golden Disk card.

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This second image shows the first wave Voyagers, being that of Cyclonus and Optimus Primal.

All of these toys, barring the Leader Class Optimus Prime repack, were revealed at Hasbro Pulsecon back in September.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby aronjlove » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:03 pm

Wow, BW Megs looks huge!
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:03 pm

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At least Prime's legs aren't split like in the Earthrise packaging. I find the different thickness of cardboard funny, it's to adjust the height of the figures in the packaging.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:07 pm

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aronjlove wrote:Wow, BW Megs looks huge!


Definitely Bigger than than WFC "Voyagers with Parts" Leaders we've had so far, but probably not as big as a CW or TR Leader, (probably because of more complex transformation and higher parts count) still I'd like to see the comparison when they are available
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Betenoire » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:27 pm

Wow are they getting millage out of the Prime mold.

I want all these except Prime, I have the Earthrise and Amazon Dead version, I'm good.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby blackeyedprime » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:50 pm

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Megs looks small to me, just a head taller than earthrise optimus making him smaller than siege magnus. When an idea of size is needed trust Primevsprime to be reviewing a nonstolen figure and Tonton reviewing alphabetblock dinos...
Looks like T30 Rhinox will be too big to go with Kingdom Megs.

Primes head position with the art on the box will look like the g1 cab with the head left out :P
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Wolfman Jake » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:56 pm

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blackeyedprime wrote:Megs looks small to me, just a head taller than earthrise optimus making him smaller than siege magnus.


Beast Megatron is way taller than "a head" more than Leader G1 Optimus Prime. Your worries are unfounded.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:59 pm

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blackeyedprime wrote:Megs looks small to me,
The image of him is squished vertically.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Lore Keeper » Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:01 pm

I'm honestly kind of baffled by the decision to re-release ER Prime in Kingdom. He has had two full waves in Earthrise already. There have been Primes clogging my local Walmart shelves for weeks. It's a really weird choice, especially considering there is a Core class Optimus coming in the same wave.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:11 pm

Lore Keeper wrote:I'm honestly kind of baffled by the decision to re-release ER Prime in Kingdom. He has had two full waves in Earthrise already. There have been Primes clogging my local Walmart shelves for weeks. It's a really weird choice, especially considering there is a Core class Optimus coming in the same wave.


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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:26 pm

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:I'm honestly kind of baffled by the decision to re-release ER Prime in Kingdom. He has had two full waves in Earthrise already. There have been Primes clogging my local Walmart shelves for weeks. It's a really weird choice, especially considering there is a Core class Optimus coming in the same wave.


Hasbro mandate of a Leader OP in every line.


Hasbro or retailers?
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