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War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Mon May 24, 2021 1:01 pm

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o.supreme wrote:Although what Kingdom Rodimus has going for it, may be more than any current Leader Class toy, can anyone rightfully say it has the complexity, engineering, etc... of Jetfire or Skylynx?.


I'm pretty sure. Skylinx and Jetfire are simple designs and they have a lot of VOLUME but not much complexity. I'll be getting Roddy when it will come out and I'll be curious to compare their weight with all their accessories on my scale.


Awesome looking forward to it. ;)^ . Don't get me wrong, I really WANT all Transformers to be the best they can be. I just want them to be worth what I feel I am paying as well.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby bluecatcinema » Mon May 24, 2021 1:05 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:"Behold... DINOMUS!"

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Okay Hasbro, so when are we getting that figure :shock:


Now this was unexpected. And the familiar-looking background raises some intriguing possibilities.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rtron » Mon May 24, 2021 1:19 pm

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The whole Dinomus thing makes me feel like it bears remembering what those cards do: they showcase three possible futures for "key characters", who so far have turned out to be Optimus Prime, Blackarachnia, Dinobot and Megatron, if I remember correctly.

We have two Dinobot cards so far, counting this one, the other one was Dinobot leading a combined Maximal and Predacon faction. I'm guessing the remaining one would be the regular Beast Wars "Dinobot becomes a Maximal" fate. The reason for that assumption is that of the two Optimus Prime cards, one depicts Prime dying in space, and the other one is just his fate in the G1 show: crash landing on earth, then waking up with the rest of the Ark crew in 1984.

So maybe we'll get Dinobot herald of Unicron, maybe we'll get Dinobot bringing peace to the Transformers, or maybe we'll get none of that beyond a cameo.

Edit: I was mistaken, the card for the Autobots awakening features the Ark, not Optimus. Still, there's a card showing Blackarachnia turning Maximal, so my point stands.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby aronjlove » Mon May 24, 2021 1:33 pm

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One these went home with me, found in Phoenix, AZ.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Mon May 24, 2021 1:41 pm

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One these went home with me, found in Phoenix, AZ.


Awesome. I'm glad it worked for you. ;)^ . After you posted the Peoria sighting early this morning, I ran over to my local Target real quick. There was only one Primal, but an employee said they were getting the next shipment of Voyagers on Thursday. (which would make sense since I am further west) Now, I know this could be ANY assortment, but I plan to be there Thursday when the doors open just to see. Also it confirms Brickseek is no longer reliable, because it currently shows nothing for the Phoenix area.

Is Rhinox coming as whole cases, or who is he repacked with? I would think 2 Rhinox and 1 (??).
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby aronjlove » Mon May 24, 2021 1:50 pm

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aronjlove wrote:
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One these went home with me, found in Phoenix, AZ.


Awesome. I'm glad it worked for you. ;)^ . After you posted the Peoria sighting early this morning, I ran over to my local Target real quick. There was only one Primal, but an employee said they were getting the next shipment of Voyagers on Thursday. (which would make sense since I am further west) Now, I know this could be ANY assortment, but I plan to be there Thursday when the doors open just to see. Also it confirms Brickseek is no longer reliable, because it currently shows nothing for the Phoenix area.

Is Rhinox coming as whole cases, or who is he repacked with? I would think 2 Rhinox and 1 (??).

There was a single Cyclonus along with the two Rhinox boxes so maybe those three are packed together? Good luck to ya for Thursday!
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Back of T-Wrecks Box Shows Different Headsculpt from Actual Toy

Postby william-james88 » Mon May 24, 2021 3:04 pm

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Something screwy is going on and there may have been a mistake. Months ago, someone found a Kingdom Beast Wars Megatron toy with a different headsculpt from all the other ones. This one had teeth showing, similar to the original toy's headsculpt. We thought maybe we would see this headsculpt used for T-Wrecks. Well, T-Wrecks has been found now and the headsculpt used is not that one, it's just the same closed mouth one as the Megatron figure. And the mouth is painted silver, making it looks like he has silver lipstick. However, the back of the box shows the other headsculpt, showing his teeth, painted silver.

All signs show that there was a snafu somewhere and the batch of T-Wrecks toys found so far don't have the head originally planned for this actual toy. This toy has yet to be officially revealed by Hasbro and we'll see which headsculpt we get once it lands in Target.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby o.supreme » Mon May 24, 2021 3:26 pm

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Taken completely with a grain of salt however...One of the early Video Youtube reviewers who got T-Wrecks (consider the source) stated there may have been QC issues with the angry "toothed" face causing a last minute change. Which is even more puzzling considering, as you showed above, some people found a Megatron with that different head sculpt.

What's even more sad is I am almost positive, the 2nd time I saw BW Megatron at Target, it was one of those rare variants. Of course I had no idea at the time, so I didn't get it :oops: .
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Transformers Kingdom Rhinox Found in the US at Target

Postby william-james88 » Mon May 24, 2021 4:17 pm

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Fellow Sebertronian aronjlove found Transformers Kingdom Rhinox at a Target in Arizona. This is the only new voyager in the line's third wave. Cases come with 3 toys per box where two are Rinox and the other is Cyclonus. This is the first sign of Wave 3 we have seen in the US.

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Hellscream9999 » Mon May 24, 2021 6:13 pm

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It would be cool, but hard to imagine happening, but it would be cool if dinomus was the pre-tool of a re-tooled thrustor from dinobot, it seems like the dinobot figure could be the next seeker, based on how many times the original mold was used and re-used :PRAY:
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Bounti76 » Mon May 24, 2021 6:27 pm

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Meanwhile, my Target just restocked Wave 1 Voyagers.... AGAIN...
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Re: Back of T-Wrecks Box Shows Different Headsculpt from Actual Toy

Postby Rodimus Prime » Mon May 24, 2021 6:38 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Something screwy is going on and there may have been a mistake. Months ago, someone found a Kingdom Beast Wars Megatron toy with a different headsculpt from all the other ones. This one had teeth showing, similar to the original toy's headsculpt. We thought maybe we would see this headsculpt used for T-Wrecks. Well, T-Wrecks has been found now and the headsculpt used is not that one, it's just the same closed mouth one as the Megatron figure. And the mouth is painted silver, making it looks like he has silver lipstick. However, the back of the box shows the other headsculpt, showing his teeth, painted silver.

All signs show that there was a snafu somewhere and the batch of T-Wrecks toys found so far don't have the head originally planned for this actual toy. This toy has yet to be officially revealed by Hasbro and we'll see which headsculpt we get once it lands in Target.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby M. Spector » Mon May 24, 2021 6:38 pm

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby aronjlove » Mon May 24, 2021 7:12 pm

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His guns are a little thin, and he does have a funky backpack, that has two ports for weapon storage on each side, but goodness, is he fun to pose. I tried transforming him and got stuck on the legs, not entirely understanding how the foot folds into the rhino's thigh. But I'll figure it out. These two pics were taken because someone on Twitter asked how he scales with Primal. You can see the port in the last pic.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby william-james88 » Mon May 24, 2021 7:15 pm

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o.supreme wrote: can anyone rightfully say it has the complexity, engineering, etc... of Jetfire or Skylynx?


I can rightfully say that Kingdom Cyclonus is more complex than Jetfire. Pretty certain Rodinus will be as well.
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Re: Back of T-Wrecks Box Shows Different Headsculpt from Actual Toy

Postby william-james88 » Mon May 24, 2021 7:18 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Something screwy is going on and there may have been a mistake. Months ago, someone found a Kingdom Beast Wars Megatron toy with a different headsculpt from all the other ones. This one had teeth showing, similar to the original toy's headsculpt. We thought maybe we would see this headsculpt used for T-Wrecks. Well, T-Wrecks has been found now and the headsculpt used is not that one, it's just the same closed mouth one as the Megatron figure. And the mouth is painted silver, making it looks like he has silver lipstick. However, the back of the box shows the other headsculpt, showing his teeth, painted silver.

All signs show that there was a snafu somewhere and the batch of T-Wrecks toys found so far don't have the head originally planned for this actual toy. This toy has yet to be officially revealed by Hasbro and we'll see which headsculpt we get once it lands in Target.
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Which Megatron is that? The variant or the regular?


A variant that so far was only ever found once.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby -Kanrabat- » Mon May 24, 2021 7:19 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote: can anyone rightfully say it has the complexity, engineering, etc... of Jetfire or Skylynx?


I can rightfully say that Kingdom Cyclonus is more complex than Jetfire. Pretty certain Rodinus will be as well.


Yup. Even T-30 Generations Jetfire is more complex than Siege Commander Jetfire. Plus I think people tend to forget that Siege Jetfire come with the equivalent of a deluxe toy of armor pieces, guns, and blast effects.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rtron » Mon May 24, 2021 7:24 pm

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His guns are a little thin, and he does have a funky backpack, that has two ports for weapon storage on each side, but goodness, is he fun to pose. I tried transforming him and got stuck on the legs, not entirely understanding how the foot folds into the rhino's thigh. But I'll figure it out. These two pics were taken because someone on Twitter asked how he scales with Primal. You can see the port in the last pic.
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Great find! Hey, is it possible to bend the rhinoceros jaw backwards 180 degrees? So that it ends up hidden behind the torso?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby aronjlove » Mon May 24, 2021 7:41 pm

Rtron wrote:Great find! Hey, is it possible to bend the rhinoceros jaw backwards 180 degrees? So that it ends up hidden behind the torso?
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This is as far back and down as it will go because of the rhino back. It is on a hinge that will go in but not out.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Rtron » Mon May 24, 2021 7:44 pm

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Rtron wrote:Great find! Hey, is it possible to bend the rhinoceros jaw backwards 180 degrees? So that it ends up hidden behind the torso?
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This is as far back and down as it will go because of the rhino back. It is on a hinge that will go in but not out.


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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Mon May 24, 2021 7:48 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:Yup. Even T-30 Generations Jetfire is more complex than Siege Commander Jetfire.


I'd say that is pushing it. The main reason I sold off my T30 Jetfire (and CW Seekers) is because that mold is pretty boring to transform. Not that Siege Jetfire blows T30 away, but it is definitely more complex. Simply look at the arms and legs.

For T30 the only real transformation to any of the limbs it tucking the feet inside the back of the leg before you tuck all 4 limbs under the jet without doing much else to them. Siege makes you collapse the legs and sort of collapse the arms each requiring many more parts than for T30. Torso portion is about equal between the two but Siege has the various bonus features like the opening cockpit that is TR compatible and the 5mm pegs on the underside that you can retract.

You can say T30 gives you more for your money, for sure especially comparing leader prices back then to commander prices now, but no way is T30 more complex.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Seibertron » Mon May 24, 2021 8:34 pm

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I feel like they screwed up with Megatron and T-Wrecks. Megatron should have the teeth grinning face. I'm indifferent on T-Wrecks. It bothers me more knowing that the correct face for Megatron exists and yet was planned to be used on T-Wrecks. Doing the silver teeth paint app on the wrong head that they were going to use just adds salt to the wound. Kind of a bummer. Hopefully a future recolor of Kingdom Megatron will have the proper head variant with the correct silver teeth. While I'd like to get a correct version of T-Wrecks (either with the mouth closed and no paint or the grinning teeth with paint), I'm indifferent because the character has little to no fictional background outside of a few BotCon comics that I'm sure the majority aren't familiar with.
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby aronjlove » Mon May 24, 2021 8:39 pm

I posted this on Twitter cause of Blackarachnia but everyone is going off about Retrax?
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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Sabrblade » Mon May 24, 2021 8:51 pm

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Re: War for Cybertron Kingdom Discussion The Beasts Return!

Postby Autobot N » Mon May 24, 2021 8:58 pm

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