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Weapons lab... Mind the explosions.

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Posted by Dr. Caelus Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:56 pm

Rat Convoy wrote:I'm noticing that of the five weapons I have exact recharge times for, the recharge rates are all multiples of six. Does this hold true for all the weapons?


Well, since I don't want to give to much away with an answer, let me ask you: Are your recharge rates in rounds or seconds?

And the Megaton Battle Sword seems to be okay, btw.
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Posted by Rat Convoy Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:28 pm

Caelus wrote:
Rat Convoy wrote:I'm noticing that of the five weapons I have exact recharge times for, the recharge rates are all multiples of six. Does this hold true for all the weapons?


Well, since I don't want to give to much away with an answer, let me ask you: Are your recharge rates in rounds or seconds?

And the Megaton Battle Sword seems to be okay, btw.


Seconds. I can't "see" rounds in the battle results, so I need to go by the only time measurement I CAN see in the battle logs, which is seconds. And so far, all the recharge rates I've arrived at are divisible by six. I'd like to know if that follows for all weapons, as it will save me a square ton of time in the early going (cause sooner or later I'm going to have enough raw data to know for sure whether or not they are all divisible by six anyway).

Thanks for any help you can give me, Caelus.
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Posted by Dr. Caelus Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:12 am

Rat Convoy wrote:Seconds. I can't "see" rounds in the battle results, so I need to go by the only time measurement I CAN see in the battle logs, which is seconds. And so far, all the recharge rates I've arrived at are divisible by six. I'd like to know if that follows for all weapons, as it will save me a square ton of time in the early going (cause sooner or later I'm going to have enough raw data to know for sure whether or not they are all divisible by six anyway).

Thanks for any help you can give me, Caelus.


Well, recharge rates are pretty screwy (as Tammuz would be quick to point out), and are, I believe, programmed in "rounds". And I think each action performed in the game is one "round".

The catch however, is that on average a round seems to last 6 seconds (general observation and second hand info, haven't done the math myself), so if you calculate recharge times in seconds, stuff should come out in multiples of six.

I'm not 100% certain on this though. But then, if I knew for sure I'd be less inclined to share details... :-P
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Posted by Rat Convoy Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:59 am

Caelus wrote:
Rat Convoy wrote:Seconds. I can't "see" rounds in the battle results, so I need to go by the only time measurement I CAN see in the battle logs, which is seconds. And so far, all the recharge rates I've arrived at are divisible by six. I'd like to know if that follows for all weapons, as it will save me a square ton of time in the early going (cause sooner or later I'm going to have enough raw data to know for sure whether or not they are all divisible by six anyway).

Thanks for any help you can give me, Caelus.


Well, recharge rates are pretty screwy (as Tammuz would be quick to point out), and are, I believe, programmed in "rounds". And I think each action performed in the game is one "round".

The catch however, is that on average a round seems to last 6 seconds (general observation and second hand info, haven't done the math myself), so if you calculate recharge times in seconds, stuff should come out in multiples of six.

I'm not 100% certain on this though. But then, if I knew for sure I'd be less inclined to share details... :-P


Cool. Thanks Caelus. I pretty much was already figuring that was the case, but having some extra confirmation about it means I don't need to feel nervous that I'm jumping to too broad an assumption too quickly.

This will save me some time. Means I've got recharges on 14 weapons instead of just 8 and can move onto the next ones.

BTW, if anyone's interested, I've been keeping a constantly updated tally of said recharge rates in a post at the bottom of the 1st page of this thread. It's to the point it should be helpful to people making weapon selections.
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Posted by Dr. Caelus Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:46 pm

Rat Convoy wrote:I've gone through everyone's entries and here's where we stand on recharge rates:
X-Ray Laser: Longer than 27, less than 38 seconds
Sword: Longer than 23 seconds.
Direct-Current Electrical Laser: 60 seconds
Rocket Launcher: 60 seconds.
Black Magic: 42 seconds
Augmented Quark Disrupters: 36 seconds
Electric Cannon: 36 seconds
Dol-Laser Rifle: 30 seconds
Energon Crossbow: 30 seconds
Laser Pistol: 30 seconds
Laser-Blazer Broadsword: 24 seconds
Metallikato Blade: 24 seconds
Double-Barrelled Plasma Shell Shotgun: 18 seconds
Dual Slime Lasers: 18 seconds
Energo-Sword: 18 seconds
Battle Blades: 12 seconds


This is actually scarily accurate. :shock:
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Posted by Rat Convoy Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:06 pm

Caelus wrote:
Rat Convoy wrote:I've gone through everyone's entries and here's where we stand on recharge rates:
X-Ray Laser: Longer than 27, less than 38 seconds
Sword: Longer than 23 seconds.
Direct-Current Electrical Laser: 60 seconds
Rocket Launcher: 60 seconds.
Black Magic: 42 seconds
Augmented Quark Disrupters: 36 seconds
Electric Cannon: 36 seconds
Dol-Laser Rifle: 30 seconds
Energon Crossbow: 30 seconds
Laser Pistol: 30 seconds
Laser-Blazer Broadsword: 24 seconds
Metallikato Blade: 24 seconds
Double-Barrelled Plasma Shell Shotgun: 18 seconds
Dual Slime Lasers: 18 seconds
Energo-Sword: 18 seconds
Battle Blades: 12 seconds


This is actually scarily accurate. :shock:


Figuring recharge rates is just simple observation. Now, when I start figuring damages... THAT's going to be the trick. I'm good with numbers but never had patience for complicated math.
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Posted by Rat Convoy Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:03 pm

More results:

I'm having a hard time believing this one... Photon Eliminator Rifle used at 13 seconds and still apparantly not recharged TWO MINUTES LATER...
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... a_id=12693

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess 120 seconds for the Photon Eliminator Rifle. This thing is a dud and a half and I'm sick of using it.
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... a_id=12797

Maceration Laser longer than 14 seconds, less than 28.
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... a_id=13360

Maceration Laser longer than 17 seconds, less than 25.
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... a_id=13499

Fusion Cannon longer than 74 seconds, less than 90... What was whoever designed this piece of garbage thinking?
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... a_id=13672

Maceration Laser recharge is 24 seconds.
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... a_id=13699

Domesticated Kremzeek more than 89 seconds, less than 116.
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... a_id=13910

Fusion Cannon recharge is 90 seconds.
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... a_id=13910
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... a_id=14030

Rocket Propelled Mortar Shells recharge is 60 seconds.
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... a_id=14207

Longest recharge I've seen yet on Double-Barrelled Crystallizer Cannon.. Has to be longer than two-and-a-half minutes... Definitely not worth tracking to closer once you get that far out, just classify it as "longer than hell." Longer than 143 seconds and less than 170.
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... a_id=14351

Another Crystallizer Cannon result - this arena bout literally wasn't long enough to fire the weapon again. Think I'm going to declare it 150 seconds and call it a day.
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... a_id=15059

Domesticated Kremzeek recharge is 90 seconds.
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... a_id=15427

Hydro Cyclone Cannon recharge is 36 seconds.
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... a_id=15523

X-Ray Laser Cannon recharge is 60 seconds.
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... a_id=15574

Plasma Sphere Shooter recharge is 30 seconds.
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... a_id=15665
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Re: Weapons lab... Mind the explosions.

Posted by Rat Convoy Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:23 am

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Re: Weapons lab... Mind the explosions.

Posted by Dr. Caelus Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:21 pm

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Re: Weapons lab... Mind the explosions.

Posted by Rat Convoy Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:02 pm

The Energo Sword rocks. There was no purpose to it when the BBs were still uber, but now it's a pretty good weapon.
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Re: Weapons lab... Mind the explosions.

Posted by Rat Convoy Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:13 pm

It seems to me that most of my recharge time results are now useless, as most of the weapons have been speeded up considerably. I may spend time trying to nail down the recharge rates on the short recharge weapons at one point or another, but it seems to me as they stand now that all the recharge rates are short enough that they don't really matter. Which, I think, is a good thing.
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