Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
Cobotron wrote:Did you know, in college, he was in a band with this guy?
It didn't work out. Creative differences.
william-james88 wrote:I guess i will have to find myself an orion pax then.
In the meantime, i would like to add MP wheeljack to this thread. Not in a while have i marvelled this much at a transformer, he is an absolutely perfect example of a robot in disguise. He feels hefty, has flawless kibble free modes which are also both accurate to a source. He has clearly dethroned animated lockdown for best car robot design though i will always marvel at prime vehicon's design simply for its brilliance at that price point.
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
Cobotron wrote:william-james88 wrote:I guess i will have to find myself an orion pax then.
In the meantime, i would like to add MP wheeljack to this thread. Not in a while have i marvelled this much at a transformer, he is an absolutely perfect example of a robot in disguise. He feels hefty, has flawless kibble free modes which are also both accurate to a source. He has clearly dethroned animated lockdown for best car robot design though i will always marvel at prime vehicon's design simply for its brilliance at that price point.
WJ, do you have any of the Z car MP's?
I really like Jackie, but I'd be willing to debate this statement you made about him over in the Toy Haul thread, "best example of a car robot". Real friendly like of course.
It can wait til you emerge from the jungle.
Cobotron wrote:WJ, do you have any of the Z car MP's?
I really like Jackie, but I'd be willing to debate this statement you made about him over in the Toy Haul thread, "best example of a car robot". Real friendly like of course.
It can wait til you emerge from the jungle.
william-james88 wrote:Cobotron wrote:WJ, do you have any of the Z car MP's?
I really like Jackie, but I'd be willing to debate this statement you made about him over in the Toy Haul thread, "best example of a car robot". Real friendly like of course.
It can wait til you emerge from the jungle.
Not yet, but with all the mp releases and releases of that mold, it will come my way eventually. For example, I found a great opportunity on the mp lamor mold (not ko of course). I will see how it works out and compares to Wheeljack. What I really loved about Wheeljack was how his feet are formed and look like distinct robot legs rather than a piece of his car.
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
ZeroWolf wrote:I do like the classic mirage mold, though I think it better suits a lady like fracture (crasher)
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
Cobotron wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I do like the classic mirage mold, though I think it better suits a lady like fracture (crasher)
Who's that?
Cobotron wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I do like the classic mirage mold, though I think it better suits a lady like fracture (crasher)
Who's that?
Cobotron wrote:Maybe we SHOULD leave MP's out of this thread. It's kind of unfair to compare anything to these, well, masterpieces.
I have always had a fondness for Classics Mirage. So Sleek. So lanky. Dare I say, sexy?
He was also my first G1 toy so he has a special place in my heart.
william-james88 wrote:MPs have every righ to be on this list and are a great tool to compare cheaper transformers too in terms of design. For example, I find that First Edition Prime Starscream and HFTD Leader Starscream shine by being perfect interpretations of their onscreen counterparts with minimal kibble and complex transformations. And to add to that, they cost less and have less of a budget than an MP 03 or MP 11 which makes their design process even more impressive in comparison. I actually preffer Classics Starscream over MP Starscream due to the back. I hate how the MP mold has the jet nose fold backwards, sticking out. It makes the toy more fiddly to due to the chest being made up of a bunch of holes and smaller parts being crammed in. Classics is much more solid and compact and looksvery close to the animation model with a simple transformation (I do find the visible nose cone a bit of a let down though.
Anyways, it was just to give an example of how MPs are fine in this thread and dont necessarily mean a better design. I also find that ROTF Optimus accomplished a greater design feat than MP 01, hence why I chose him for my best truck alt mode transformer.
And I find that Beast Wars Megatron (original and transmetal 2) are better tyranosaurus\dragon designs than MP 08 Grimlock, but once again that<s just my opinion.
The 2 MPs that will be on my best design list in terms of alt modes would be MP Wheeljack and MP 05 Megatron for best car and weapon alt mode. I love those guys.
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
shajaki wrote:you dont own any 3P figures? any particular reason?
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
shajaki wrote:alrighty, id like to throw this thread another curveball by including 3P figures!
apologies. i didnt read all seven pages before contributing. as i said, since every figure in the MP line could be considered a feat of engineering genius, i personally wasnt considering them, otherwise id be nominating MP01-MP24 or whatever its up to now.william-james88 wrote:Why is this "another" curveball? If you are referring to MPs, they have been part of this thread from early on.
sorry. but it really seems like this is your hang up, not that i broke the rules. might i add, "take your conversation elsewhere" is pretty uninviting. also, if this thread were moved to the 3P section would you stop posting? cause thats kinda ridiculous.william-james88 wrote:And unlike 3 P figures, they are an official transformer line of figures, just like any other. However, 3P figures have no business in a thread about best transformer toys. Just like in the case of KOs, 3 P figures are not official transformer toys. And to point that out, this forum has a special place to discuss KOs and 3P figures in the "non transformer" toy discussion. They have their own topics discussing best figures so please forward your TW Orion nomination there. Sorry to be cold, but as a staff of this website, I am very aware of it's policies and I would not want this thread moved as it is probably my favourite thread of this entire site.
your opinion. fine. FYI, i support hastak more than most. i 95% completest with generations/MP/AOE/reissues/ect on both hasbro and takaras side. so if i want to fill in the gaps of my rather large collection with 3P, thats my business. hastak has my total support. and if hastak has an official version out, ill bite on it no matter what. even if theres a better 3P item out, even if i own it.william-james88 wrote:Now, for a more personal opinion, Cobotron, if you have yet to buy 3 P figures, I suggest you stick to what that inner voice has been telling you. I love the transformers brand with all my heart and buying a 3 P figure would feel like I am betraying it. Also, though the heart of the designers are in the right place, these companies have no business capitalizing on something they do not own. You were making fun of KOs the other day, but these companies violate the same laws.
as an active member of the 3P section, i havent noticed any "elitist" positions taken against the main source. in fact the main source is the candle everything is held to. maybe when comparing competing 3P's like ares and feral rex, theres a bit of a snobby tone. but the elitist thing in general, again i feel thats your hang up.william-james88 wrote:Also, I dislike how elitist they make us fans seem, as if being a true transformers fan must mean buying the most expensive figures. That takes away the fun of this hobby for me, as well as it's broad reach to kids of all ages. And think about it, you are paying tons more for toys that are not official. Do you really want to own Not Roadbuster, Not Galvatron, Not Fortmax? Not only does this make no sense to me as a fan, but it is very risky business. Think of all those guys who bought Warbot Defendor, The Menasor combiner, that Not Roadbuster or worse, that Red Robin (or whatever that other version was called). These people are now stuck with expensive figures no one wants, especially that Warbot defendor.
Remember how that guy was arguing the red robin was a good toy when it clearly looked nothing like the actual alt mode? I don't want to be that guy.
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