ZeroWolf wrote:Actually it would have caused a universe destroying paradox. After all if the decepticons won and the predacons were never established, then who went back in time to kill optimus to ensure that the decepticons won? Bw megs couldn't have done it as he would never have existed and normal megatron would never have told anyone to go back in time, after all, if he did there would have been someone else there to destroy optimus!
A Paradox, exactly. Think about that.. Instead of Season 3 opening with
Optimal Situation it was instead
Time Wars Part 1. The Agenda paid homage to Sunbow, Time Wars would have paid homage to the G1 comic.
This is why I thought the Vok would have played a key role in Season 3. Think about it, throughout Season One and two Megatron hadn't been confronted by the Vok directly, only through their machines, this action would have crossed that line. It would have been the Tigerhawk episode, but fully fleshed out over a season.
ZeroWolf wrote:That however is still ignoring the biggest elephant in the room which is Unicron, with out the matrix (which no decpticon could open) then the chaos bringer destroys everything thus there's no one to travel back in time to destroy prime...
Depends on the Unicron. Sunbow Unicron was indifferent to Cybertron (He was merely the creation of a monkey after all
) Also, who is to say Starscream wouldn't have pulled off a similar coup and Megatron wouldn't have found himself adrift in space...
Plus, other than being spoken, has the "Decepticons can't open the Matrix" ever been physically shown in canon?
ZeroWolf wrote:A final thing though, the episode is perfect as it is because of the loop hole that optimus spark survived, megs would have got what he wanted if not for that (which as I pointed out above was probably a good thing)
Cataclysmic and fatal damage was shown to have been done by Megatron to Optimus Prime in Part 3 of The Agenda. Fast Forward to Optimal Situation. His head was only a little singed and fixed with a Macguffin
bucket (Never once shown in G1) being put on his "damaged" head. It didn't mesh well with the previous episode events in the slightest. It was along the same lines as Inferno being vaporised by a Raw Energon explosion, only to walk out of the cave completely unharmed.
Rodimus Prime wrote: I second this in its entirety, especially the last paragraph. I will say, however, that season 3 of Beast Wars could have been better, if they kept the focus on the events of The Agenda entirely, or at least much more closely. Also, I don't think Transmutate was good at all. It was one of the worst episodes, and the series didn't have many bad ones. And I understand the need to market new toys, but I also think the series would have been better if not as many new characters were introduced and the originals didn't undergo so many changes. I really dislike the Transmetals. That's one of the reasons I liked Rhinox, Waspinator and Inferno more than the others. They never changed. I really liked Megatron as well, but it would have been better if he went from T-Rex straight to dragon.
First off, Great Name. One of only two Autobots I actually like.
I think with the Transmetals they should have gone all or nothing. There was no real reason why Rhinox and Waspinator should have been left out (Waspinator's Transmetal toy was actually pretty awesome)It also would have made it even more poignant if Dinobot was the only one not to become Transmetal. Making him completely "obsolete" in his own mind.
Plus, discounting the
skates, Transmetal Megatron was one of the best designs in the show. TM Primal.. not so much.
The Fuzors were a wasted opportunity as well. Considering they only ever gave us two and they were two of the worst characters in the entire series. Depthcharge was the only new design from Season 3 I actually liked.