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I cant decide! Ratchet? Ironhide? Blackout?

To be honest, I'm really leaning towards Starscream. But the thing is, I really dislike his Jet form. it seems the bottom is really bulky! A real F-22 Raptor is very slick and thin and not bulky at all. I know Hasbro cant make toys perfect, but I think they should have just made the whole jet longer, so that they can fit the bulk of his body INSIDE the jey, isntead of sticking out from the bottom.

Anyways, any suggestions or something?

Ironhide. C'mon, he's a Big Truck. Who can resist that?

Starscream's strength is his robot mode, but his weaknesses are his bulky jet form and his cannon hands. I suggest Ratchet. Despite the color, it's a really solid figure. After that, get Ironhide, which is also awesome.

Personally, I would say Ratchet. I have all the ones you mentioned but for some reason Ratchet is my favorite. You cannot go wrong with Ironhide either.

i love trannsformers that are helicopters, such as armada/energon cyclonus and beast machines obsidian

now....i went out in hunt and found 2 voyagers left Blackout and starsream....i couldent decide ....i love starscream also, in the end i decided on blackout...he is a great figure i like him but thats me

by the way i went back after an hour or so and brought starscream also

NO REGRETS

Ironhide was one of my favorite charcters in the movie but he's one i like less in the voyager class, i 4 of the voyagers and the only one i like less than ironhide is blackout, i would suggest between starscream and ratchet, i just like starscream more cus he has 6 firing missles and ratchet has no firing weapons.both good figures though

Ironhide is the coolest but ratchet is the easiest.

Ironhide is my favorite

I have Ironhide and he was really hard for me to transform (well I am a newb, but still), so get Ratchet. My Ironhide always stays in his bot mode, lol.

Save Starbrick...I mean Starscream for last. I'm sure he will be clogging up the pegs until the next movie comes out. It's sad tho because I really want a Starscream and thats the only one readily available. But its a brick with wings and cannon hands.

Argh,
SB

For those of you who said Ironhide... do you HAVE Starscream as well? Im debating between the two.

Honestly, I think that Starscream most will give me my money's worth, since he's the biggest.

i didnt say ironhide, but i do have both, between ironhide and starscream i'd pick starscream, i dont like the fact that u cant use ironhides cannons when they on each arm, u have to combine them into just one cannon cus one cannon has the button to launch them and the other part has the missles, plus it probably only launches the missles one inch, i still like him cus he was one of my favorite characters, but i'd go with starscream when it comes to the toy

I'd pick Ratchet over Ironhide. But as long as your first figure isn't Blackout, your all set.

Ratchet was my first TF movie toy. i love him, very well made and is a good toy overall. just wish he has a frickin gun to go along with this awsome hand ax.

Bombus distinguendus wrote:Ratchet was my first TF movie toy. i love him, very well made and is a good toy overall. just wish he has a frickin gun to go along with this awsome hand ax.

yea, definitely a good figure, ratchet's transformation can be mastered quickly, not too hard, and its a solid figure once in robot robot mode, the hand axe feature is cool. i have ironhide, ratchet, starscream, and blackout, i would suggest u get starscream or ratchet first, either one u can get ur hands on, after that ironhide, and finally if u really want all the movie characters get blackout, but if u just want a couple of toys and dont care about collecting them all u can just forget about blackout

I have Strarscream and Blackout, and I'm rather fond of both. If you'r gonna get Blakout, though, make sure you get Scorponok too for the full flying whirling slice blades of death treatment.

But just to be contrary, I reccomend Robo-Vision Prime if you can still find him. He's not as special as either of the 'cons, but he's a nice solid figure with a good paint job and no glaring flaws. So, not really just to be contrary. But still, Robo-Vision Prime.

Ratchet is the best one for me... you should try him out... no loose joints either. Blackout is very good too. But those are the only two I have so I can't comment on anymore...

I'm going to break with everyone and say forget Ratchet. he's a major disappointment to me. He's chunky and blocky, he's honestly too big, especially next to Ironhide, he's quite ugly in design (not color, actually like that), and he looks nothing at all like his movie self. Most of the figures do look something like the movie versions, but Ratchet has barely any discernable features that say he's from a modern movie with new generation bots. He makes a more interesting Hummer then he does robot.

Cliffnotes version: He sucks. My only regret. (yeah, I even have Jazz)

But Ironhide I do enjoy. He's not perfect and he can kinda be a pain, but he's tough looking with both those cannons pointed out from his arms. He is posable, it just takes a bit of fidgeting. He makes a snazzy looking truck too, except the shortened stacks. And he looks really good and mostly in scale next to my leader Prime.

I'm probably gonna get Blackout eventually, as he looks cool in alt form, and it'd be nice to have him finally.

I don't get all the fuss over starscream. he looks retarded both ways to me. he's truly an ugly design, his character is annoying in just about every incarnation, yet he gets a cult following. Weird. And the toy is quite bulky and unconvincing as a Raptor.

For those of you who said Ironhide... do you HAVE Starscream as well? Im debating between the two.

Honestly, I think that Starscream most will give me my money's worth, since he's the biggest.

Hi guys, anyway I have been browsing this forum for quite some time so decide to register as a member. Been laszy to register. I have Ironhide, Starscream and Ratchet. I will say Ironhide is the best of the lot.
Ironhide- Complex transformation and cool detailed bot design. Quess Hasbro has put lots of efforts in this toy so he has money'sworth. BTW, people who said has difficulty working his automorph, the instruction is wrong. Always use his feet to pull down or up. Mine has no problems whatsoever.
Starscream- Simple, Involved transformation and less detailed bot mode. He feels like a plain brick to me just as Raymond has said.I don't undestand why you said you get your money's worth just because he is bigger or has bigger chunks of wasted plain plastic?? I don't think he is worth $19.99 compared to 08 BB! I see value by considering how much stuff Hasbro has put into a toy, not by how much plastic Hasbro has used.
Ratchet- Simple unqiue transformation and detailed bot mode. But he doesn't have any unique feature or "X-factor" that warrant his value of $19.99. He is worth less than that.

I love my Screamer, one of the best toys from the movie. I just really hope that they make a leader class one with hands, that would be pure love.

Pontimax 01 wrote:I'm going to break with everyone and say forget Ratchet. he's a major disappointment to me. He's chunky and blocky, he's honestly too big, especially next to Ironhide, he's quite ugly in design (not color, actually like that), and he looks nothing at all like his movie self. Most of the figures do look something like the movie versions, but Ratchet has barely any discernable features that say he's from a modern movie with new generation bots. He makes a more interesting Hummer then he does robot.

Cliffnotes version: He sucks. My only regret. (yeah, I even have Jazz)

But Ironhide I do enjoy. He's not perfect and he can kinda be a pain, but he's tough looking with both those cannons pointed out from his arms. He is posable, it just takes a bit of fidgeting. He makes a snazzy looking truck too, except the shortened stacks. And he looks really good and mostly in scale next to my leader Prime.

I'm probably gonna get Blackout eventually, as he looks cool in alt form, and it'd be nice to have him finally.

I don't get all the fuss over starscream. he looks retarded both ways to me. he's truly an ugly design, his character is annoying in just about every incarnation, yet he gets a cult following. Weird. And the toy is quite bulky and unconvincing as a Raptor.

what?? i think ratchet is a good looking toy, in my opinion i think he did look like his movie counter part, one thing i did like about Blackout is the fact that if u also have deluxe scorpinok u can attach it to the bottom of blackout when he's in helicopter mode, of course it looks way out of scale but looks cool and pretty deadly with a huge scorpion hanging of the heli.

DepthCharge08 wrote:

Pontimax 01 wrote:I'm going to break with everyone and say forget Ratchet. he's a major disappointment to me. He's chunky and blocky, he's honestly too big, especially next to Ironhide, he's quite ugly in design (not color, actually like that), and he looks nothing at all like his movie self. Most of the figures do look something like the movie versions, but Ratchet has barely any discernable features that say he's from a modern movie with new generation bots. He makes a more interesting Hummer then he does robot.

Cliffnotes version: He sucks. My only regret. (yeah, I even have Jazz)

But Ironhide I do enjoy. He's not perfect and he can kinda be a pain, but he's tough looking with both those cannons pointed out from his arms. He is posable, it just takes a bit of fidgeting. He makes a snazzy looking truck too, except the shortened stacks. And he looks really good and mostly in scale next to my leader Prime.

I'm probably gonna get Blackout eventually, as he looks cool in alt form, and it'd be nice to have him finally.

I don't get all the fuss over starscream. he looks retarded both ways to me. he's truly an ugly design, his character is annoying in just about every incarnation, yet he gets a cult following. Weird. And the toy is quite bulky and unconvincing as a Raptor.

what?? i think ratchet is a good looking toy, in my opinion i think he did look like his movie counter part, one thing i did like about Blackout is the fact that if u also have deluxe scorpinok u can attach it to the bottom of blackout when he's in helicopter mode, of course it looks way out of scale but looks cool and pretty deadly with a huge scorpion hanging of the heli.

Ratchet looks good exactly as a toy, with no merit as a good figure IMO. As far as looking like he did in the movie, about the only thing that I can think of is the Hummer front grill (which is upside down on the toy, right side up in the movie). Otherwise he's just a big green turd with extremely stocky legs, funky arms, poor "automorph" features, and that ugly head.

His alt form isn't even that good. They totally ignored his back end. No tail lights, no rear windows, no door frames. Nothing. The split rear bumper is a joke, mine won't line up to the other side and it's warped a bit so it sticks out.

As a toy, he looks like the one that can take a beating from a 7 year old though, but he's just so bland and flat in so many places that I just hate him.

Another piping in for Ironhide. I have all of the Voyagers and he's by far my favourite. My only complaint is his loose joints which make him something of a pain to pose. He also has quite a complicated transformation, but I don't mind that. Awesome figure.

Nemesis Primal wrote:I have Strarscream and Blackout, and I'm rather fond of both. If you'r gonna get Blakout, though, make sure you get Scorponok too for the full flying whirling slice blades of death treatment.

But just to be contrary, I reccomend Robo-Vision Prime if you can still find him. He's not as special as either of the 'cons, but he's a nice solid figure with a good paint job and no glaring flaws. So, not really just to be contrary. But still, Robo-Vision Prime.

agreed.
robo-vision prime would be a good start for voyager figures.
eventhough i dont have a robovision yet that would be my first voyager!
im looking forward on owning it!
yahoo!

I am so disappointed that the Voyager Megs is so poorly designed, yet has the full fusion cannon while the Leader one doesn't. Can anyone tell me why?

i'd get starscream