The Energon Pub

An age old question for sure but I'll ask anyway, how come are Bay, Orci, and Kurtzman the ones mostly receiving the flack from the haters of Transformers 2007 and rarely Spielberg? Becuase correct me if I'm wrong but didn't he...
-Stay as executive producer for years?
-Choose Bay for director believing him to be the most perfect choice for the job and even after Bay declined he kept asking him till he changed his mind?
-Had ideas for the script, as original writer John Rogers said, and suggested to the writers for the main plotline to be the story of a boy and his car?
-Have a final say in things?
Didn't Spielberg also approve script verisosn for the film including the leaked one back in July 2006 which had plenty of fanboys scream bloody murder? And in the end when Spielberg watched the film entirely at Bay's hosue didn't he keep giving Bay the thumbs up? Besides the script part I beleive the rest was correct and if that's the case then such lack in the flack for Spielberg? Is it becuase he has done countless classics for cinema? Becuase to me that's a lame reason seeing as that it's almost never a good idea to completely approve and disprove a director and as much as I love Spielberg, he is by all means NO exception. Sorry if this is a little rude to some people, just a little steamy at the moment.

Now, I dug this movie and I don't care what anyone says, I like it. But just once I would like to see a huge bundle of people not only disown Bay and the writing team of Orci and Kurtzman but Spielberg also and no holding back on the flack Unless alot of people feel that if they did bash Spielberg they would loose plenty of credibility to their reputation online...That's one theory I have on this.

It's pretty simple really, a tried and true tradition of "it's the directors fault" is always been the case for blaming the failure or success of a movie and not everyone as a whole involved in the project.

I suspect "Spielbergo" has too much power and influence after all it was he who got the MPAA rating of transformers taken down a notch from an initial R rating to a PG13 rating just by going and having a little "chat" with them...personally I never could see it as an R rating to begin with but definitely a PG13.

I don't dislike Spielberg but I'm not an uber fan boy of all of his films and I "have" to get his films when they hit the store shelves.

I think his initial concept was accurate as far as a boy and his car as it relates to spike and bumblebee only but he missed it as the franchise goes way deeper than just those two characters as we all know too well.

Perhaps with that small a scope of a concept he had envisioned a more tightly focused script around just spike and bumblebee but I can guarantee that they would have been calling for Spielbergs head on a platter even quicker than they wanted with Bays at first.

I liked the 2007 movie a lot, it was far from perfect but it was a good start to this vision of the franchise and hopefully for the sequels they will make the writing and plot better and more robots too.

Back to Spielberg though...as I said above I think it all boils down to the hollyweird tradition of it all falls on the directors shoulders if it is a success or failure...Spielberg was pretty much just an executive producer on the film though.

I thought the whole R rated thing was just some false stuff from Shia's mouth, and it was actually Disturbia that got the R rating.

Keeperofthespark wrote:I thought the whole R rated thing was just some false stuff from Shia's mouth, and it was actually Disturbia that got the R rating.

Nope, it was actually given to transformers at first and spielberg used his power and influence and talked them down to a PG-13

Figures since Zack WArd said on a guy I know's own podcast that they cut alot of stuff out, including an alternative take on the scene where he gets eaten by scorponok...