Quantum Surge wrote:Nameslaps were also common in other continuities outside of the movies. The two Scourges in RID and Cybertron as well as Inferno being in Beast Wars and Wheeljack in Armada being numerous examples.
ZeroWolf wrote:A great article Will, though just sadly think that many won't listen.
Mind you, with its loose connection with continuity, it looks like it has more in common with other Transformers fiction than people care to admit
griftimus prime wrote:worst movie continuity in history. makes the xmen franchise look bad. and thats saying something.
SpaceEagle wrote:Don't get me wrong I at least understand some fans' frustation with nameslaps but I personally never cared? Names are names, I'm not gonna be pissed that some guy named "Brian" is nothing like the "Brian" I met yesterday.
As long as both are cool pals, it doesn't matter to me!
william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:A great article Will, though just sadly think that many won't listen.
Mind you, with its loose connection with continuity, it looks like it has more in common with other Transformers fiction than people care to admit
It's just to have it as a reference to go back to if anyone is adamant about any aspect. It's been well received online though, with a lot of people on Facebook joking that it's always been like this since all the movies contradict one another, so nothing really matters.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
First-Aid wrote:I'm going to sit back, eat popcorn and drink a New Glarus, and have fun. Not going to think into it. Not going in with expectations outside of Prime and Bee being similar to the last movie. I'm going to be ENTERTAINED. That is, after all, what it's for.
And bad movies just require more beers to be good, which is ALSO a good thing. It's a win-win situation!
SpaceEagle wrote:I'm also more interested if the toys are good and look cool, and so far from what I've seen of the upcoming Battletrap figure it seems like that will indeed be the case!
Immortal Starscream wrote:the term "Transformers Continuity" has been an oxymoron since g1
ZeroWolf wrote:Immortal Starscream wrote:the term "Transformers Continuity" has been an oxymoron since g1
This, a hundred times this.
william-james88 wrote:Why it Makes No Difference if the Upcoming Transformers Film is a "Reboot" or Not
RotorstormNZ wrote:william-james88 wrote:Why it Makes No Difference if the Upcoming Transformers Film is a "Reboot" or Not
Is this Seiberton's official stance? If not, this story really needs an "OPINION" or "william-james88's Column" identifier or similar.
There are people who enjoy following continuity regardless of how fragmented a series is. And when making this view you have to remember the fanbase you're speaking to: like that of Star Wars and Marvel, Transformers fans value these things. There are folk who don't want Bumblebee etc to be part of the original series and, to them, knowing this is a fact is important to them.
If it's a new timeline then think of the Star Wars shows Obi-Wan kenobi and Andor: ROTB cannot kill any characters who are in the other movies. Some people lose tension because of this (or reported same with the SW series).
We have to remember this hobby engrosses people in a major way. I'm quite casual compared to most posters here but the idea of Bumblebee and ROTB (why on earth does Mr. Starscream keep calling it "Rise of the Best"??) being separate is a good thing as it suggests a new narrative timeline. I really enjoy those movies but much prefer the new direction introduced in Bumblebee.
In my opinion.
Who was saying it was a "soft" reboot? Unless RotB severely changes course from Blunderbee, it's a HARD reboot.Also, if this is a "soft reboot", that doesn't mean it's not within the Bayverse. It would be (at least) the second soft reboot of its kind in the Bayverse, after all.
Because Blunderbee started as a prequel, but then got hijacked late in editing to be turned into what by all appearances was a reboot.After the initial trilogy, Michael Bay changed things up in Age of Extinction and the Last Knight. Optimus got a major redesign, looking more like a superhero than a robot made of car parts, and the faces looked more human, especially the faces of the villains (like Lockdown). That change in design carried over to the Bumblebee movie villains like Shatter and will probably carry over to the Rise of the Beasts villains as well.
Load of crap, IMO. It was strained certainly, especially all the patching the comics tried to do, but not in a way that things couldn't be tied back together. And, you know, The Last Knight actually had direct ties to the goings-on of the prior movies, including showing that pre-AoE Autobots other than Bumblebee survived Cemetery Wind, bringing back Seymour Simmons, the "We were brothers once." "Once." exchange between Megatron and Optimus...Any evidence of incongruence to continuity story is far from being a smoking gun when a film like The Last Knight exists. In that film, everything we saw before was retconned and continuity flew out the window.
Only because of, IMO, a mix of cowardice and an inability to make up their minds.That's why in the end, it really doesn't matter if this film is labelled as a reboot or not. You can call it a reboot if you like but remember:
- No one at Hasbro or Paramount is calling it that
And unless RotB repairs the story links Blunderbee severed, that means nothing beyond laziness.- It is labelled as TF 7 in all toy listings as well as on set
But he's not the director.- Michael Bay is still involved and on set
Ever hear of RiD (2001)? The Unicron Trilogy? Even Animated to a degree? All that naming practice proves it's not Yet Another G1 Continuity, not that it's connected narratively.- There are still reused G1 names with no connection
Again, because Blunderbee started as a Bayverse prequel before being hijacked late in editing, so they're still stuck with that aesthetic.- Design elements are carried over from previous films; Bumblebee still has the Bayverse face, radio voice and Camaro alt mode
william-james88 wrote:Also, the article is labelled as an editorial.
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