The Energon Pub

News Credits: 1 · by **Scatterlung** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:12 pm

the Autobot reinforcements came to earth MEGA pissed with Prime?

You can't possibly expect every single Autobot in existence to share Prime's incredibly chivalrous nature. I can just see Hot Rod (if he's present) kicking off because Prime destroyed the only means to restore Cybertron.

It was just a thought but it'd add a massive dynamic to the film, albeit not incredibly necessary, but it would be interesting to see a Prime in a position of incredible unpopularity (bar Animated Prime who isn't fairing too well in terms of rank).

So, I dunno, what do you think? Prime makes an unpopular decision, and while his immediate company respect his choice, he finds much opposition among the reinforcements. The cube is gone, AND Starscream is on his way back to Cybertron to no-doubt gather Decepticons for an invasion.

I see a scene mirroring one in Beast Wars; Depth Charge and Primal:

"I gotta hand it to you, Primal: When you screw up, you do it big time"

News Credits: 3 · by **Barricade** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:40 pm

i could see ultra magus, prowl, jetfire and hot rod showing up and being pissed that the cube was gone

News Credits: 1 · by **Scatterlung** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:26 pm

Cujo wrote:i could see ultra magus, prowl, jetfire and hot rod showing up and being pissed that the cube was gone

I think if they use FAIRLY consistent personalities, Magnus might be on Prime's side a little. But I can see Prowl as condemning the decision 'illogical', Jetfire would say it was... the same, and Hot Rod would just be like 'u suxxr0rz' and storm off in a huff, only to run into decepticons and get his ass handed to him.

by **Rushie** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:47 pm

I'd love it! A bit of antagonism between the good guys is always nice storytelling =D

News Credits: 2 · by **Tekka** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:49 pm

That seems like a logical plot development to me. But then the logic of the current Autobots being totally unphased by the doom their home planet faces is not logical at all.

News Credits: 1 · by **Scatterlung** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:00 pm

Tekka wrote:That seems like a logical plot development to me. But then the logic of the current Autobots being totally unphased by the doom their home planet faces is not logical at all.

You could put that down to an undying sense of heroism. You know, 'not a second thought', 'never look back' kinda thing.

That said, they didnt seem to fussed about Jazz's gruesome death so I don't know.

News Credits: 2 · by **Tekka** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:02 pm

It all happened very fast. Perhaps after they've had time to reflect on things they'll show more varied emotion about it all.

News Credits: 1 · by **Scatterlung** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:37 pm

Tekka wrote:It all happened very fast. Perhaps after they've had time to reflect on things they'll show more varied emotion about it all.

..Any time after the initial battle can be classed as delayed reaction. I mean, surely the best time to be down about it would be after the battle (since during would be dangerous), and they didn't seem to sad then. Any time after that would be a seriously delayed reaction. These must be some sloooow transformers in this continuity.

Half way through the next film Bumblebee'll start panicing going "ew ew ew ew! they were totally having sex on me!!!"

by **Optimist Prime** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:34 am

I like this idea. It would add a little dimension to the Autobot cause and show that there may be some different approaches to being a good guy. They could even have Optimus getting arrested, and while they're hauling him back to Cybertron, Megatron attacks and only Prime can stop him. Then the issue comes down to whether or not to let a prisoner go for the greater good (although Prime would probably come right back after mopping up Megs).

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:38 am

~Windcharger~ wrote:I like this idea. It would add a little dimension to the Autobot cause and show that there may be some different approaches to being a good guy. They could even have Optimus getting arrested, and while they're hauling him back to Cybertron, Megatron attacks and only Prime can stop him. Then the issue comes down to whether or not to let a prisoner go for the greater good (although Prime would probably come right back after mopping up Megs).

Nice idea, there are just two faults in it:
Megatron is dead
And Prime had no chance against Megatron, so I don't get the "only Prime can stop him" thing.

Yea it would be awesome if a few Bots would come and bitch slap Prime and call him some names and all for destroying the cube.

News Credits: 11 · by **Robinson** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:11 pm

Meverix wrote:and Hot Rod would just be like 'u suxxr0rz' and storm off in a huff, only to run into decepticons and get his ass handed to him.

I think I saw that already in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. the first one with corey feldman as Donatello.

News Credits: 1 · by **Agent 007** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:19 pm

For the love of primus NO HOTROD! I find him almost as annoying as Wheelie!

by **HoosierDaddy** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:32 pm

And in order to keep the same type of antagonism going on on the decepticon side make it so that the reason Barricade disappeared before the final battle is because he is loyal to Starscream and wanted to see Megatron fail.

by **Optimist Prime** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:33 am

Dead Metal wrote:
~Windcharger~ wrote:I like this idea. It would add a little dimension to the Autobot cause and show that there may be some different approaches to being a good guy. They could even have Optimus getting arrested, and while they're hauling him back to Cybertron, Megatron attacks and only Prime can stop him. Then the issue comes down to whether or not to let a prisoner go for the greater good (although Prime would probably come right back after mopping up Megs).

Nice idea, there are just two faults in it:
Megatron is dead
And Prime had no chance against Megatron, so I don't get the "only Prime can stop him" thing.

Yea it would be awesome if a few Bots would come and bitch slap Prime and call him some names and all for destroying the cube.

You know they won't be able to resist bringing Megs back. He had hardly any screen time in the first movie.

Only Prime can have a chance at stopping Megs, unless some of the new characters introduced are a little taller. I don't think after seeing Prime and Megatron fight once we can conclude that Megs wins every time. Prime is the smarter of the two, after all.

by **Cyberjet #7** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:33 pm

Autobots pissed at Prime just isn't marketable. Hasbro doesn't want their staple hero being antagonized by his own troops.

How many Rebel troops hate Luke for blowing up the Death Star?

by **Rushie** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:52 pm

That comparison doesn't hold. Preserving the Death Star didn't offer the Rebels any advantage. The AllSpark, as dangerous as it was, was also the one artifact that could restore their completely devastated homeworld.

by **Optimist Prime** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:01 pm

Cyberjet #7 wrote:How many Rebel troops hate Luke for blowing up the Death Star?

Seven

by **Uber Galvatron** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:26 am

I would rather think Prime would be MEGA pissed with Hot Rod.

Prime: NO, YOU LITTLE B"£$%@#! YOU GOT ME KILLED IN THE LAST MOVIE, YOU AINT KILLING ME IN THIS ONE!"

(Primes thrws Hot-Rod into Megaron's Flail)

and Dont forget Children, Freedom IS the right for all sentient Beings.