BotCon 2012 Exclusive Set Hype Begins

Ariel and Orion Pax as the distant past, and Elita-1?

It could be anyone,but the round head reminds me of G1 Bee or Guzzle.

Re distant past... There are few options.... Though as far as I know there have been alpha trion and Orion pax toys....

One tf that hasn't had a toy update that comes to mind is hoist... And trail breaker only had a legends version right?

I'm not a fan of exclusives especially for must haves as they put it.... Yay for hasbro releasing the coneheads

How bout a date and location....then I'll get excited..

Looked at a list of characters that appeared in the show. Not too many seem to fit the bill and I assume they'd have to be characters seen in the american cartoon and comics.

And I too am more interested in the location. Hope to Primus it aint on the West Coast again or my dear spark shall be crushed.... .. again.

LiKwid wrote:How bout a date and location....then I'll get excited..

Plan for Spring/Summer in the continental US. Seriously though, just start saving money now. I'll go wherever it ends up being. I'd like to go back to Orlando again but I love flying to someplace new too. I'm intrigued by what the set could be.

Unless it's within driving distance, I won't give a damn.

The rotten teases.

i will be excited when i actually see some pics of the new toys. i just hope they are ones i can add to my classics collection

Well, by my analysis...

The "Distant Past" could mean a lot of things. Are we talking beginning of the civil war, like "War Dawn"? The Quintesson war, like "Forever is a Long Time Coming"? I doubt Beast Wars (it's not very 80s), but could it go back to the Originals?

"80s fans" would seem to imply that we're talking G1; every other continuity is from the 90s or later. Given that, what three characters are getting their first ever update? What toys from that era have never been refreshed? Has anyone ever NOT been revisited?

Characters that stand out to me from that timeframe are the Insecticons, Trailbreaker (who did get a Legends class), some of the Female Autobots, perhaps Devcon, along with a multitude of others.

Oddly, they didn't say "GeeWun", but "80s". That could mean something that I really hope is true... they're finally going to integrate the GoBots continuity into Transformers proper! After all, we've learned that their universe is collapsing, and many have been fleeing into the Classicsverse. How about Silverbolt as Leader-1? Wreck-Gar as CyKill? Cybertron Scourge, as Zod?

Alternately, they could be screwing with us, and giving us a complete set of movie Bumblebee redecos...

Hmm, two dragon heads in the background...I've got it! this set is going to be composed of Doublecross, Hunn-Grr, and RID Megatron in their cybertronian modes! and some other guys...

You heard it here first folks!

the MUST HAVE cant be hoist, alpha trion, elita - one, or trailbreaker,( gears, swerve had many version so they are not in the list)
because elitaone had her timelines thunderclash remold, alpha trion his vector prime remold, trailbreaker his legend class figure (and they said its not trailbreaker) and hoist his longarm repaint (yes, the movie one,but it counts as an update)
so whats left?
orion pax maybe? can be a repaint/remold/retool of sargeant kup

Devcon and Orion Pax. Trailbreaker, Gears, and Brawn are NOT candidates, according to their Twitter feed.

Scourge=Devcon.
Kup=Pax
(distant past)

3rd figure to get its first retooling/paint would be=Lugnut, Galvatron, Perceptor, Warpath, Octane, Astrotrain... from the classics line atleast...I know there is more.

GetRightRobot wrote:Devcon and Orion Pax. Trailbreaker, Gears, and Brawn are NOT candidates, according to their Twitter feed.

you sure theyre not pulling a michael bay and flat out lying to mislead us? the only reason im saying is because the head in the wax (poo!) looks alot like brawn to me.

I was hoping for a Machine Wars tribute...or maybe even a Transtech tribute. G1 is always getting a ton of love, so it's hard for me to get excited about this set. Every character I liked from the 80's cartoon has received a proper HasTak release, so I've already lost interest in this set.

Give us some more obscure continuities and then we'll talk. But the usual Jee Wun fanwank doesn't do it for me anymore.

What would really be awesome are components to form a massive sized Metroplex (my vote), Trypticon, Omega Supreme, or Fortress Maximus. If I had a way of garage kitting something like that I'd do it.

However, that's not gonna happen. I may have to compile a list of what hasn't been updated yet and take a stab at who they are doing for the 2012 set. Hopefully it's a combinable team. Has/Tak has yet to do that for the Classics/Generations (no, repaints don't count).

Ideas:

Sky Lynx from DotM Hatchet?
Sandstorm
Broadside
True triple changer Springer?


Ideas I'd love to see, but I don't think are feasable:
Any of the combiners, like the Technobots, Predacons, Terrorcons, Protectobots, and Stuntacons.

Too big to be convention exclusives, I think (though didn't they do an Energon Scorponok repaint?):
Omega Supreme
Trypticon

That's pretty much it from looking through the characters in G1, unless the 3 part headmasters season 4 is considered. Yet, that popularity pales in comparison to the other seasons.

Outside from my first suggestion, I don't have any toy ideas for the others at this time.

Botcon sets used to be the pinnacle of Transformers toys, but ever since the Seekers and Scourge debacle im not really all that keen on them anymore. who wants a 3 year old mold with a new head when a better designed totally new figure available for mass consumption will be made not a year later?

Botcon should leave their hands off of G1 characters and cover ancillary fiction only.

im guessing shockwave will be in there. he's an 80s toy without a neo-classics re-do, and there could be Masterforce/victory characters in there. Star Saber, Overlord and maybe a few updated pretenders characters

the ancient past ones could turn out to be some of the original 13

Now see, THIS is how you start hype. Don't know what the deal is, but it seems like every time I learn/hear about a con-set, I'm already looking at a finished product. This time, seeing the sculpter's table in process, reading the descriptions, I love it. I'm actually excited to see what's coming.

This info is useless to me without a location and date for the Con.

Sorry, Botcon, you're taking too long and I've been seduced by other Cons already. Ones that have dates and locations announced.

Midnight_Fox wrote:This info is useless to me without a location and date for the Con.

Sorry, Botcon, you're taking too long and I've been seduced by other Cons already. Ones that have dates and locations announced.

Yeah, I'm excited about these figures, but I'm more interested in the location. I'm tempted to book a trip to TFCon in Canada instead, since it's driving distance from me.

I live in Orlando but because I stopped collecting TFs during the second and third movies I completely missed out on 2010 Botcon.

Then I saw the exclusives and I was a little less upset about it lol.

Looks like a pile of turds on a plate. The only thing I hate about Botcon is the "TOP SECRET" culture they adopt. I hate teasers, hype, bulls**t, etc. Were not kids, were grown men. You are selling us something and if you want our money show us what youre gonna put on the table.

Now see, that sounds kid-like to me. 'I wanna see it now! Show me now! I don't WANNA wait!' Building suspense, creating hype, teasing a future product to the consumer base are all very adult, practical and valid things.

I think people are reading this the wrong way. they havent said that this is a g1 set at all, only that one of the figures is something an 80s fan would call a must have toy of the year, and that that same figure is one of 2 that have never had an update.

that being said im pretty sure that this is a full set of classics molds, but who knows for sure.

This year's exclusive... Brown-Gravy Maximus. I called it.

Overlord pops to mind but he´s not very iconic to the 80's american fans... could it be an homage to some other 80´s show?

Clearly they're giving us Rocklords.

FellintoOblivion wrote:Clearly they're giving us Rocklords.

The toy made for chucking at your friends? I'd be okay with that.

I'm gonna throw in a possibility and put this guess out into the open. Emirate Xaaron.

I wonder what they mean by "first update ever"?

Do they mean an original mold that is given some modifications or a character that was never remade in any form since it's first appearance?

I'm guessing the latter.

Covenant wrote:I'm guessing the latter.

Wouldn't that be an EXTREMELY small list?

Likely so, but all the more reason to claim it a must have.

arcee?

Okay now this is gonna be fun...

now I have no clue as to the identity of the head, but considering the hype around the update of Thunderwing, Bludgeon, and Skullgrin. This may have to do with Pretenders!

This is really dumb, but maybe PCC figures? with the tiny robot redecoed to look like the inner robot and the bigger bot redecoed to resemble the shell?

Just a thought, please keep criticisms relatively gentle

I'm still thinking that GoBots are a possibility. Hasbro owns the characters now (if not the actual molds for the toys, which remain Bandai property, IIRC), and they have been slowly teasing them into continuity (BugByte, Fracture, Cop-Tur). They were a pretty strong 80s brand, perhaps even on par with Transformers for a time, before Hasbro pulled into the lead.

Ah well. A guy can hope, right?

How about - Rodimus Prime? Shockwave? Soundwave?

FellintoOblivion wrote:

Covenant wrote:I'm guessing the latter.

Wouldn't that be an EXTREMELY small list?

From the recent "classics" styled lines (excluding Takara paint variations Henkei Henkei & United):

Kup
Scourge
Galvatron
Lugnut
Windcharger
Astrotrain
Octane
Megatron (nerf gun)
Warpath
Cheetor
Dinobot
Rumble
Frenzy

Also if you exclude certain members for the TFCC exclusive:
Superion
Bruticus
Devastator
Although these were re-released under ROTF banners with paint variations, they were not re-purposed.

There might be some more I missed.

Anyone picked up the last Marvel issue and looked at it in a while?

bfett88 wrote:How about - Rodimus Prime? Shockwave? Soundwave?

Rodimus unlikely to get any more love. Masterpiece/Fansproject.

Shockwave = Classics Megatron (nerf gun)

Soundwave = RTS Perceptor (a customizer did a great job showing how well it worked.

GetRightRobot wrote:

bfett88 wrote:How about - Rodimus Prime? Shockwave? Soundwave?

Rodimus unlikely to get any more love. Masterpiece/Fansproject.

Shockwave = Classics Megatron (nerf gun)

Soundwave = RTS Perceptor (a customizer did a great job showing how well it worked.

Even though Fansproject made the Rodimus attachment. It is still a third party. It is a great set, but in my opinion it is still not a Hasbro remake in Classics style.

Guys, guys, these are supposed to be characters who have NEVER received updates. Orion Pax, Elita One, Guzzle, Alpha Trion, Devcon, Chromia, Moonracer, Hun-Gurrr, Sky Lynx, Sandstorm, Broadside, Springer, Shockwave, Star Saber, Arcee, Rodimus Prime, and Soundwave have ALL received updates within the past 27 years of the Transformers franchise. We need to think DEEPER with this if we want to figure out who HASN'T received ANY updates since their original debut in the 1980s.

Unless something changes, the set will steer clear of any major characters Hasbro/Takara has on the shelves... OR in the works for at least the next year or two. I'm thinking that will rule out a lot of these. Bludgeon, Rodimus, Soundwave, Shockwave included.

I think the notions about the Wreckers and Xaaron are probably the best notions I've hear so far... and would make for the most epic, must have set. Not sure about the character that's only had one toy / never been redone. Hmmmmmm. Maybe Skids, Reflector, an Insecticon... Hmmm.

Maybe we should be thinking Japanese characters...

Has Impactor ever had a toy at all?

Sabrblade wrote:Guys, guys, these are supposed to be characters who have NEVER received updates. Orion Pax, Elita One, Guzzle, Alpha Trion, Devcon, Chromia, Moonracer, Hun-Gurrr, Sky Lynx, Sandstorm, Broadside, Springer, Shockwave, Star Saber, Arcee, Rodimus Prime, and Soundwave have ALL received updates within the past 27 years of the Transformers franchise. We need to think DEEPER with this if we want to figure out who HASN'T received ANY updates since their original debut in the 1980s.

I was going to say this about Rodimus Prime (Titanium), Soundwave (Titanium and Cybertron), and Shockwave (DotM and Energon? Shockblast seemed an homage to Shockwave, though not a direct update). Are you considering the minicon Sky Lynx an update? I'm not sure I'd consider any minicon an update....

Sabrblade wrote:Guys, guys, these are supposed to be characters who have NEVER received updates. Orion Pax, Elita One, Guzzle, Alpha Trion, Devcon, Chromia, Moonracer, Hun-Gurrr, Sky Lynx, Sandstorm, Broadside, Springer, Shockwave, Star Saber, Arcee, Rodimus Prime, and Soundwave have ALL received updates within the past 27 years of the Transformers franchise. We need to think DEEPER with this if we want to figure out who HASN'T received ANY updates since their original debut in the 1980s.

Devcon got a toy? Missed that one. More to the point, I believe they are referring to toy molds that have not yet been repurposed/retooled/repainted, not Characters who have never received a toy.

I hate exclusives - if it really IS some essential G1'er that should be released in the re-start of Generations I'm going to like them even less.

Luckily the picture of the dog-doo partial-head has put me off getting too uptight about this. Yet.