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Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D

Transformers News: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D

Tuesday, May 13th, 2008 11:09AM CDT

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According to Cinematical.com, there may be a chance that the Transformers movie sequel will be done in 3D effects.

The movie based website states that the listing for Transformers the Movie 2 in the Dolby News release for ShoWest 2008, was stated to be in 3D. Cinnematical.com also goes on the state that this would make sense "...since the only way to top the FX of the first film is to have them flying off the screen at the audience this time around."

Cinnematcal.com also states that no word has come out of the production camp validating this information so this is just a possibility at this time.

To view the complete article on this. click here.

UPDATE: It will be shown in 3D. To view the press release on this you will need a .pdf reader. Click here to view it. Page 14.
Credit(s): cinematical.com, dolby.com

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Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (699598)
Posted by Autobot032 on May 13th, 2008 @ 11:20am CDT
...3-D? Oh yeah, I need to pay for a bout of motion sickness. Yeah, sign me right up.

I can do 3-D, or I can do in your face, jittery action scenes, I can't do the combo. No...
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (699602)
Posted by ponycorn on May 13th, 2008 @ 11:27am CDT
I only wish! I'd do IMAX 3D front row center seats until I soil my pants! Unfortunately, sounds way too good to be true.
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (699606)
Posted by Solrac333 on May 13th, 2008 @ 11:33am CDT
I really hope that is not true. There is no need for that.
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (699631)
Posted by emeraldbeacon on May 13th, 2008 @ 12:06pm CDT
Oh god, a Michael Bay movie in 3-D... If you think those types of effects are nauseating in general, imagine 3-D effects with a super-shakey-cam.

PASS.
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (699632)
Posted by Zeds on May 13th, 2008 @ 12:09pm CDT
I hate this since I wear glasses. Time for contacts if this comes to pass. :-(
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (699634)
Posted by Ramjet's Ghost on May 13th, 2008 @ 12:13pm CDT
Forgive my ignorance. What does it mean it could be filmed in 3-D? Is that how the Beowulf movie was filmed?
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (699639)
Posted by First Gen on May 13th, 2008 @ 12:18pm CDT
Ramjet's Ghost wrote:Forgive my ignorance. What does it mean it could be filmed in 3-D? Is that how the Beowulf movie was filmed?



Beowulf was done with CGI and partial 3D affects. 3 Dimensional basically gives the effect that the things you're seeing are real. Like they stick out at you. I have yet to see a 3D movie that actually made me feel as though anything was flying at me though.
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (699647)
Posted by masterpeice_skyfire on May 13th, 2008 @ 12:25pm CDT
THAT WOULD BE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWEET!!!!!!!!!!!PLEASE BE 3D, PLEASE BE 3D,PLEASE BE 3D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (699667)
Posted by Orion_Prime48 on May 13th, 2008 @ 12:58pm CDT
Oh god no I so hope this is one of Bays lies but this article seems to prove this to be true :sad:

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-9/transformers-2-to-be-shown-in-dolby-3-d--update-confirmed-164880/
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (699674)
Posted by First Gen on May 13th, 2008 @ 1:09pm CDT
Its confirmed by Dolby. I added the link to the original post.

And that other website got the news from us.
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (699710)
Posted by Lockdown72 on May 13th, 2008 @ 1:59pm CDT
Ugh, not 3-D transformers AGAIN :roll: . They already tried this combo in comics:
http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Transformers_in_3D

Putting that aside, the only 3-D movie that I felt to have anything come at me was the remake for Polar Express in imax theaters, and frankly, the added 3-D was about 30 min. combined total. Considering how most other 3-D movies I've heard and seen in the past few years (Spy Kids: Game Over, for example :shock: ), 3-D is, IMO, a novelty and should rarely be used in big-buget films, if at all. Transformers is my favorite film, and if the second looks just the same in a few ways, I'm perfectly fine with that :) . If, by some freak of nature, this is TRUE :shock: is any shape or form, I'm gonna wait for the non 3-D version, if the movie is worth watching at all.
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (699744)
Posted by Squawk'n'talk on May 13th, 2008 @ 2:30pm CDT
I saw the last Harry Potter film in IMAX 3D - and the 3D was limited to the climactic final 20 minutes or so, with little signs flashing up to tell you to put on your goggles.
I have to say seeing it like that was fantastic - I kinda wish they sold a 3D version of it on DVD that came with goggles... ;)
Optimus Prime kicking Megatron's (or Galvatron's) butt in 3-D???
If this is done right then it could be awesome.
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (699770)
Posted by Sunstar on May 13th, 2008 @ 3:00pm CDT
interesting concept... in technicolour burps.
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (699791)
Posted by Keeperofthespark on May 13th, 2008 @ 3:27pm CDT
TF 2...In 3-D? *Faints*
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (699831)
Posted by Rushie on May 13th, 2008 @ 4:15pm CDT
confirmed: it may be in 3d

isn't that a huge contradiction right there?

Also, please no. A regularily shot film will do fine.
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (699834)
Posted by dragons on May 13th, 2008 @ 4:16pm CDT
i could care less if the sequel was in 3d it gives me an option to see it in 3d or not.

family guy starwars spinoff dvd set that was in 3d and i couldnt tell what scenes where in 3d and what scenes where not in 3d until checked out the specila featuresd and clicked the scene to see it in 3d i wasnt impressed by the 3d aspect of thingat all but with & without the glasses i couldnt tell if it was in 3d or not.

making a movie into 3d kinda makes look like cheap crap something you would see in the 1970 or 80 films jaws for one not imperesive effect by me but yet again ihavnt seen jaws in 3d myself and probably wouldnt be impressed by the 3d effect if i where to see it in3d effects with the glasses on
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (699839)
Posted by Agent 007 on May 13th, 2008 @ 4:21pm CDT
omega666 wrote:I really hope that is not true. There is no need for that.

i agree that makes the movie too fake imao
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (699845)
Posted by First Gen on May 13th, 2008 @ 4:24pm CDT
Confirmed as in UPDATED!!!

If you read both articles, the original and the .pdf posted, you will see that the 3D version will only be available in select theatres under a different format.
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (699878)
Posted by Cornicer on May 13th, 2008 @ 4:50pm CDT
First Gen wrote:Confirmed as in UPDATED!!!

If you read both articles, the original and the .pdf posted, you will see that the 3D version will only be available in select theatres under a different format.


Well, it's good to know it's not going to ONLY be in 3D.

All 3D ever does for me is make the screen blurry. I've got crap depth perception. :-(
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (699905)
Posted by leader magnus prime on May 13th, 2008 @ 5:20pm CDT
stupid idea even with the glasses the movie just looks red and blue i hate 3d
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (699965)
Posted by autobot commander on May 13th, 2008 @ 6:31pm CDT
too be honest i'd be more then happy to not have 3d
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (700017)
Posted by ***Galvatron*** on May 13th, 2008 @ 7:06pm CDT
Autobot032 wrote:...3-D? Oh yeah, I need to pay for a bout of motion sickness. Yeah, sign me right up.

I can do 3-D, or I can do in your face, jittery action scenes, I can't do the combo. No...


Ahhh, just take some Dramamine ahead of time and you'll be fine! :P
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (700019)
Posted by ***Galvatron*** on May 13th, 2008 @ 7:07pm CDT
ponycorn wrote:I only wish! I'd do IMAX 3D front row center seats until I soil my pants! Unfortunately, sounds way too good to be true.


I hope you don't go to the same Imax theater as me ? :mrgreen:
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (700021)
Posted by ***Galvatron*** on May 13th, 2008 @ 7:10pm CDT
Zeds wrote:I hate this since I wear glasses. Time for contacts if this comes to pass. :-(


I wear glasses too, the 3D glasses they give you fit right over them. :P
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (700098)
Posted by Liege Evilmus on May 13th, 2008 @ 9:45pm CDT
CONFIRMERED,

I may get up for work on time tomorrow.

It's unlikely, but for my clientel use to me, I'll be right on que.

Even when probable, I can't see confirming maybe!?!


Thats like saying COMFIRMERED, you may win the lottery tomorrow. True as that may be, I'd still plan on having to go to work on Thursday.
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (700187)
Posted by T-Macksimus on May 14th, 2008 @ 12:13am CDT
After having seen the First movie in IMAX, and after having done a mental run-thru of some of the best scenes, the only scene that I feel could have benefitted any more from a 3D treatment would be when Simmons got "Lubed" by Bumblebee. Watching an entire audience jump at that scene, from the pop of the oil can to the 10W-30 shower, would be funny as hell! :P
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (700276)
Posted by ***Galvatron*** on May 14th, 2008 @ 8:07am CDT
T-Macksimus wrote:After having seen the First movie in IMAX, and after having done a mental run-thru of some of the best scenes, the only scene that I feel could have benefitted any more from a 3D treatment would be when Simmons got "Lubed" by Bumblebee. Watching an entire audience jump at that scene, from the pop of the oil can to the 10W-30 shower, would be funny as hell! :P


I thought that was too runny to be oil, it would have to be very hot for it to be that runny and that would have burned Simmons...I always thought it was windshield washer fluid or maybe antifreeze but if it was antifreeze it was certainly a different color than the standard neon glowing green.

When Bonecrusher comes running up to grab Prime and they tumble over the highway that would be cool in 3D and also the fight scene where Bonecrusher jabs at Prime with his hook, maybe even when Prime grabs Bonecrusher and his eye pops out might look cool.

Scorponok popping out of the sand in that slow mo shot would look great...people would think he was about to land on them in the audience.

Prime holding on to Megatron in the final battle as he is flying towards the camera...there are lots of great scenes in 3D.
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (700539)
Posted by Shadowman on May 14th, 2008 @ 3:54pm CDT
In a related story, toy-collecting Cyclops are pissed.

I honestly don't care. 3D is too distracting, and I've never bothered with movies that use it.
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (700613)
Posted by ***Galvatron*** on May 14th, 2008 @ 5:37pm CDT
Shadowman wrote:In a related story, toy-collecting Cyclops are pissed.

I honestly don't care. 3D is too distracting, and I've never bothered with movies that use it.



Beowulf in Imax 3D was awesome too! :P
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (700918)
Posted by Shadowman on May 15th, 2008 @ 5:48am CDT
***Galvatron*** wrote:
Shadowman wrote:In a related story, toy-collecting Cyclops are pissed.

I honestly don't care. 3D is too distracting, and I've never bothered with movies that use it.



Beowulf in Imax 3D was awesome too! :P


I've heard a lot of bad things about Beowulf. A lot of changing going on there. Characters not dying when they should, characters doing the things they weren't supposed to, Stuff like that.
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (700989)
Posted by ***Galvatron*** on May 15th, 2008 @ 8:49am CDT
Shadowman wrote:
***Galvatron*** wrote:
Shadowman wrote:In a related story, toy-collecting Cyclops are pissed.

I honestly don't care. 3D is too distracting, and I've never bothered with movies that use it.



Beowulf in Imax 3D was awesome too! :P


I've heard a lot of bad things about Beowulf. A lot of changing going on there. Characters not dying when they should, characters doing the things they weren't supposed to, Stuff like that.


It's based on a poem a legend so it had to have a few creative liberties to stretch it out to two hours is why...it was still a good story and movie I thought.
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (701644)
Posted by Auto Bot on May 16th, 2008 @ 5:14am CDT
I was not impressed with IMAX. I thought it would be more real than just the "floating" effect in front of the screen. And the cost is so unjustifiable.

Not to mention getting dizzy at some angles.
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (701811)
Posted by Shadowman on May 16th, 2008 @ 9:42am CDT
***Galvatron*** wrote:It's based on a poem a legend so it had to have a few creative liberties to stretch it out to two hours is why...it was still a good story and movie I thought.


The original poem had over 3000 lines! And even then, it doesn't justify letting Grendel's mother live, her boinking Beowulf and Hrothgar, among other things.
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (701996)
Posted by ***Galvatron*** on May 16th, 2008 @ 2:16pm CDT
Shadowman wrote:
***Galvatron*** wrote:
Shadowman wrote:In a related story, toy-collecting Cyclops are pissed.

I honestly don't care. 3D is too distracting, and I've never bothered with movies that use it.



Beowulf in Imax 3D was awesome too! :P


I've heard a lot of bad things about Beowulf. A lot of changing going on there. Characters not dying when they should, characters doing the things they weren't supposed to, Stuff like that.


So "change" in the 2007 Transformers movie is ok but not in this ? LOL :P
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (702100)
Posted by Shadowman on May 16th, 2008 @ 4:05pm CDT
***Galvatron*** wrote:
Shadowman wrote:I've heard a lot of bad things about Beowulf. A lot of changing going on there. Characters not dying when they should, characters doing the things they weren't supposed to, Stuff like that.


So "change" in the 2007 Transformers movie is ok but not in this ? LOL :P


There's a huge difference. Transformers, Spider-Man, Batman, all have years and years of constantly changing history, so that a huge departure or two isn't too far off.

Books, like Beowulf, the Odyssey, Lord of the Rings, don't have the same history. The stories are written once, they don't change. In Beowulf and the Odyssey's cases, the only possible changes would be between translations.
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (704415)
Posted by Lockdown72 on May 20th, 2008 @ 3:02pm CDT
Shadowman wrote:The original poem had over 3000 lines! And even then, it doesn't justify letting Grendel's mother live, her boinking Beowulf and Hrothgar, among other things.

The movie sucked for me because the whole thing was a slaughterfest of idiotic norse vikings or something from start to finish (grendel eating the guys head was unessessaraly drawn out), and there was only ONE 3-D part that looked any good, and that was only 10 seconds long and a zoom out shot at that. Everything else (the first washing lady and that moron trooper guy scene for example) was just...wrong IMO.
Overall, I believe that if a movie is made FOR 3-D, the story will absolutley suck (exception being Monster House, which was decent enough for the ticket price). We all want Transformers 2 to be good, and 3-D is something that would just crapify it. I mean, who wants to look at Bumblebee 'peeing' on the crowd? =;
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (704449)
Posted by ***Galvatron*** on May 20th, 2008 @ 3:40pm CDT
Lockdown72 wrote:
Shadowman wrote:The original poem had over 3000 lines! And even then, it doesn't justify letting Grendel's mother live, her boinking Beowulf and Hrothgar, among other things.

The movie sucked for me because the whole thing was a slaughterfest of idiotic norse vikings or something from start to finish (grendel eating the guys head was unessessaraly drawn out), and there was only ONE 3-D part that looked any good, and that was only 10 seconds long and a zoom out shot at that. Everything else (the first washing lady and that moron trooper guy scene for example) was just...wrong IMO.
Overall, I believe that if a movie is made FOR 3-D, the story will absolutley suck (exception being Monster House, which was decent enough for the ticket price). We all want Transformers 2 to be good, and 3-D is something that would just crapify it. I mean, who wants to look at Bumblebee 'peeing' on the crowd? =;


I can safely say that there will be more than just a 3D version made of the movie...Imax3d and a regular theater version of the movie.

Who says they will repeat the same scene with bumblebee "peeing" however ? :P
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (704813)
Posted by Senor Hugo on May 20th, 2008 @ 11:38pm CDT
Beowolf, The Iliad, The Odyssey and the Bible all share one thing on common.

They are all myths.

Now before people all get up in arms "The Bible isn't a myth it really happened! bitch bitch bitch"

Let me set something straight.

Myth means a "Sacred Story"

The Iliad and Odyssey were the closest things the Greeks had to a written bible, Beowolf I would imagine is along the same lines, just as sacred as the stories of Zeus or Jesus.

Plus there is one thing common with all mythical stories, they are rooted in fact.

We know now that the battle of Troy actually took place, considering we found Troy, and we found the actual Ithica.

Now, comparing Transformers, a fictional property, to legends passed down from generation to generation before actually being written about on paper. Well that is damned stupid.

If thats the case, I propose we rewrite the Bible where Jesus doesn't actually die, he gets rescued from the Romans by Mary Magdalin and they have a high-speed chariot chase through Jerusalem, before tipping over market-stands causing the Roman soldiers chariots to explode.

Now, all of that stuff aside.

Filming Transformers in 3d will do one thing, take away from any actual worthwhile shots to adding in 3d "jump-points" where more and more things will fly at the screen to make the movie look like it's actually jumping out at you.

Now, if you want Transformers to be filmed like this, before you actually sign on 100%, go rent "The Adventures of Sharkboy and Lavagirl - 3d", watch it in full 3-d effects, glasses and everything, and be sure to pay attention to how they do the 3d effects. Then come back and say that you want Transformers in 3d.
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (704818)
Posted by Shadowman on May 20th, 2008 @ 11:44pm CDT
Senor Hugo wrote:Now, comparing Transformers, a fictional property, to legends passed down from generation to generation before actually being written about on paper. Well that is damned stupid.


I was only comparing in the sense of adaptations; that Transformers is constantly changing, and Beowulf is constantly not changing, and that changing half the story of Beowulf for the movie was just damned stupid.
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (704856)
Posted by Cascadia on May 21st, 2008 @ 1:03am CDT
I would just watch it normally. Going to movie theaters are already expensive enough....
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (704976)
Posted by ***Galvatron*** on May 21st, 2008 @ 8:14am CDT
Senor Hugo wrote:Beowolf, The Iliad, The Odyssey and the Bible all share one thing on common.

They are all myths.

Now before people all get up in arms "The Bible isn't a myth it really happened! bitch bitch bitch"

Let me set something straight.

Myth means a "Sacred Story"

The Iliad and Odyssey were the closest things the Greeks had to a written bible, Beowolf I would imagine is along the same lines, just as sacred as the stories of Zeus or Jesus.

Plus there is one thing common with all mythical stories, they are rooted in fact.

We know now that the battle of Troy actually took place, considering we found Troy, and we found the actual Ithica.

Now, comparing Transformers, a fictional property, to legends passed down from generation to generation before actually being written about on paper. Well that is damned stupid.

If thats the case, I propose we rewrite the Bible where Jesus doesn't actually die, he gets rescued from the Romans by Mary Magdalin and they have a high-speed chariot chase through Jerusalem, before tipping over market-stands causing the Roman soldiers chariots to explode.

Now, all of that stuff aside.

Filming Transformers in 3d will do one thing, take away from any actual worthwhile shots to adding in 3d "jump-points" where more and more things will fly at the screen to make the movie look like it's actually jumping out at you.

Now, if you want Transformers to be filmed like this, before you actually sign on 100%, go rent "The Adventures of Sharkboy and Lavagirl - 3d", watch it in full 3-d effects, glasses and everything, and be sure to pay attention to how they do the 3d effects. Then come back and say that you want Transformers in 3d.


Ok you maxi turkey, as shadowman already pointed out nobody said transformers and beowulf were being compared as far as importance or historical and religious or cultural importance over the other but yes it was a choice of adaptations and story and we were comparing it for the 3D aspect not really the subject matter itself in the long run. :P
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (705041)
Posted by Senor Hugo on May 21st, 2008 @ 10:49am CDT
Yeah, I don't think I made myself clear, so I apologize for that.

I did agree, that while Transformers is constantly in change, things like Beowolf has never extremely changed like what we see in TF.

I meant it was stupid to compare TF to Beowolf in the sense of change. One being a legend passed down, barely ever changing, the other constantly being updated for newer generations.

Yeah, sorry about that it was late for me.

For Transformers change is necessary, in 50 or so years, Transformers will probably be long gone and forgotten. In order to keep it around, it's had to change, like with Beast Wars, had that not come around, Transformers would have probably never showed back up in the lime-light.

However, things like Beowolf have survived the ages without change, the Beowolf movie did change the legend, and screwed it up, really badly. Had the legend not been changed, it may have been a little short, but it would have been awesome.

But for Transformers change really is a good thing, for fans and Hasbro, it brings out new toys for Hasbro to sell, new designs, and with Hasbro actually starting to listen to the fans more, we get better products.

Basically, Transformers is based around change, so, like I said, comparing it to something that hasn't changed throughout the ages is silly.
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (705103)
Posted by ***Galvatron*** on May 21st, 2008 @ 12:34pm CDT
Senor Hugo wrote:Yeah, I don't think I made myself clear, so I apologize for that.

I did agree, that while Transformers is constantly in change, things like Beowolf has never extremely changed like what we see in TF.

I meant it was stupid to compare TF to Beowolf in the sense of change. One being a legend passed down, barely ever changing, the other constantly being updated for newer generations.

Yeah, sorry about that it was late for me.For Transformers change is necessary, in 50 or so years, Transformers will probably be long gone and forgotten. In order to keep it around, it's had to change, like with Beast Wars, had that not come around, Transformers would have probably never showed back up in the lime-light.

However, things like Beowolf have survived the ages without change, the Beowolf movie did change the legend, and screwed it up, really badly. Had the legend not been changed, it may have been a little short, but it would have been awesome.

But for Transformers change really is a good thing, for fans and Hasbro, it brings out new toys for Hasbro to sell, new designs, and with Hasbro actually starting to listen to the fans more, we get better products.

Basically, Transformers is based around change, so, like I said, comparing it to something that hasn't changed throughout the ages is silly.


No problem, I was not offended or anything just trying to explain myself further too...it was too early for my post. 8-}
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (705603)
Posted by artoni on May 21st, 2008 @ 11:21pm CDT
...so if it's in 3d does that mean they'll give out glasses that transform, too?

Hey! They can be a new Real Gear Robot! </Sarcasm>
Re: Confirmed: Transformer 2 may be filmed in 3D (706769)
Posted by Lockdown72 on May 23rd, 2008 @ 3:21pm CDT
Senor Hugo wrote:Yeah, I don't think I made myself clear, so I apologize for that.

I did agree, that while Transformers is constantly in change, things like Beowolf has never extremely changed like what we see in TF.

I meant it was stupid to compare TF to Beowolf in the sense of change. One being a legend passed down, barely ever changing, the other constantly being updated for newer generations.

Yeah, sorry about that it was late for me.

For Transformers change is necessary, in 50 or so years, Transformers will probably be long gone and forgotten. In order to keep it around, it's had to change, like with Beast Wars, had that not come around, Transformers would have probably never showed back up in the lime-light.

However, things like Beowolf have survived the ages without change, the Beowolf movie did change the legend, and screwed it up, really badly. Had the legend not been changed, it may have been a little short, but it would have been awesome.

But for Transformers change really is a good thing, for fans and Hasbro, it brings out new toys for Hasbro to sell, new designs, and with Hasbro actually starting to listen to the fans more, we get better products.

Basically, Transformers is based around change, so, like I said, comparing it to something that hasn't changed throughout the ages is silly.


Preach on, brother! ;)^

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