More Intriguing Transformers Listings on Amazon Australia
Saturday, July 14th, 2018 4:03AM CDT
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After yesterday's news from Amazon Australia - about the Micromaster named listings, which you can check again here - fellow Seibertronian DELTA_prime has sent us another link to the online retailer with several new intriguing names showing up. Fellow staff member Burn suggests that the possible reason for these appearing on Amazon AU before US, is because now that Australia is geo-blocked from Amazon US, and these are being shipped and sold from Amazon US, they might be trying to work out how much stock they need for Australian customers.
As for the figures themselves, there seem to be listings for a new Megatron, Bumblebee, Soundwave, Jetfire, Ultra Magnus, Hot Rod, Prowl, Drift, Barricade, Thundercracker, Drift, Springer and Starscream - though these may in fact all be part of the Cyberverse line, as initially posted here.
Then we have entries for characters names Cog, Sixgun, Crankcase, and Shockwave at what seems to be a leader scale price. With the Battle Masters revealed for War for Cybertron, and more Micromaster team names, might this be the base and sixchangers? Or possible remolds from pre-existing Metroplex, Fortress Maximus, Sixshot?
And finally, we have listings for items called Infantry, Red Lightning, Rockhounds, Greenjackets and Rockducks - around the same price point as the Voyager Siege Optimus Prime from the previous news story, but again, the actual contents are to be determined. Browse through the listings in this story, and join the speculation in the Energon Pub discussion boards!
As for the figures themselves, there seem to be listings for a new Megatron, Bumblebee, Soundwave, Jetfire, Ultra Magnus, Hot Rod, Prowl, Drift, Barricade, Thundercracker, Drift, Springer and Starscream - though these may in fact all be part of the Cyberverse line, as initially posted here.
Then we have entries for characters names Cog, Sixgun, Crankcase, and Shockwave at what seems to be a leader scale price. With the Battle Masters revealed for War for Cybertron, and more Micromaster team names, might this be the base and sixchangers? Or possible remolds from pre-existing Metroplex, Fortress Maximus, Sixshot?
And finally, we have listings for items called Infantry, Red Lightning, Rockhounds, Greenjackets and Rockducks - around the same price point as the Voyager Siege Optimus Prime from the previous news story, but again, the actual contents are to be determined. Browse through the listings in this story, and join the speculation in the Energon Pub discussion boards!
Credit(s): Amazon AU
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Re: More Intriguing Transformers Listings on Amazon Australia (1971037)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 14th, 2018 @ 5:04am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 14th, 2018 @ 5:04am CDT
An interesting amount of product here...can't wait to see it all
Re: More Intriguing Transformers Listings on Amazon Australia (1971059)
Posted by DaXtraLargeRobot on July 14th, 2018 @ 9:43am CDT
Posted by DaXtraLargeRobot on July 14th, 2018 @ 9:43am CDT
The Megatron and Ultra Magnus are the same price as the Shockwave figure so that makes me think that they could be war cor cybertron leader classes too, they're was also an Optimus at that price as well, so maybe a new powermaster Prime? Maybe I'm just being optimistic.
Re: More Intriguing Transformers Listings on Amazon Australia (1971074)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on July 14th, 2018 @ 10:39am CDT
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on July 14th, 2018 @ 10:39am CDT
I can't really offer any real insights via the product codes (E****), as I don't have the ones for the Power Ram Bumblebee and Cyberverse Warriors yet.
Re: More Intriguing Transformers Listings on Amazon Australia (1971111)
Posted by It Is Him on July 14th, 2018 @ 12:49pm CDT
Posted by It Is Him on July 14th, 2018 @ 12:49pm CDT
Intriguing stuff. I'm excited to learn more
Re: More Intriguing Transformers Listings on Amazon Australia (1971112)
Posted by Ultra Markus on July 14th, 2018 @ 12:51pm CDT
i have a feeling we will finally have a proper updated release of shockwave in the War for Cyberton line,
i hope
Posted by Ultra Markus on July 14th, 2018 @ 12:51pm CDT
DaXtraLargeRobot wrote:The Megatron and Ultra Magnus are the same price as the Shockwave figure so that makes me think that they could be war cor cybertron leader classes too, they're was also an Optimus at that price as well, so maybe a new powermaster Prime? Maybe I'm just being optimistic.
i have a feeling we will finally have a proper updated release of shockwave in the War for Cyberton line,
i hope
Re: More Intriguing Transformers Listings on Amazon Australia (1971121)
Posted by steals_your_goats on July 14th, 2018 @ 1:56pm CDT
Posted by steals_your_goats on July 14th, 2018 @ 1:56pm CDT
This article is WAY off. First of all these prices are in AUD not USD which drastically changes things. Secondly the names that are grouped together aren't even the same price point. http://news.tfw2005.com/2018/07/14/even ... zon-367337 this is a much better breakdown of all the names and the correct prices.
Re: More Intriguing Transformers Listings on Amazon Australia (1971130)
Posted by Va'al on July 14th, 2018 @ 2:58pm CDT
Cool.
Posted by Va'al on July 14th, 2018 @ 2:58pm CDT
steals_your_goats wrote:This article is WAY off. First of all these prices are in AUD not USD which drastically changes things. Secondly the names that are grouped together aren't even the same price point. http://news.tfw2005.com/2018/07/14/even ... zon-367337 this is a much better breakdown of all the names and the correct prices.
Cool.
Re: More Intriguing Transformers Listings on Amazon Australia (1971131)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on July 14th, 2018 @ 3:20pm CDT
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on July 14th, 2018 @ 3:20pm CDT
Mighty big list 
*shuffles everything about*
Nitro Blue (E2802, AUD 29.88, Release Date 02/01/2019)
Ultra Magnus (E3479, AUD 74.71, Release Date 12/01/2018)
E3520 Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Deluxe Class WFC-S10 Sideswipe
Starscream (E3527, AUD 14.91, Release Date 08/01/2018)
Megatron (E3528, AUD 14.91, Release Date 08/01/2018)
Deluxe Cog (E3536, AUD 29.88, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Deluxe Hound (E3537, AUD 29.88, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Ironhide (E3538, AUD 29.88, Release Date 04/01/2019)
Prowl (E3540, AUD 29.88, Release Date 04/01/2019)
Optimus Prime (E3541, AUD 44.82, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Megatron (E3543, AUD 44.82, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Starscream (E3544, AUD 44.82, Release Date 12/01/2018)
E3550 Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Masters WFC-S1 Firedrive
Race Car (E3557, AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Battle (E3558 , AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Airstrike (E3560, AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Spy (E3561, AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Rescue (E3562 , AUD 14.91, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Rockhounds (E3633, AUD 11.93, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Prowl (E3636, AUD 22.40, Release Date 01/01/2019)
ACES (E3638, AUD 11.93, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Hot Rod (E3639, AUD 22.40, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Woodducks (E3639 , AUD 29.88, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Greenjackets (E3640 , AUD 29.88, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Bumblebee (E3641, AUD 44.82, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Prowl (E3647, AUD 14.93, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Dino (E3699, AUD 29.88, Release Date 08/01/2019)
Barricade (E3700, AUD 29.98, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Sideswipe (E3726, AUD 29.98, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Crankcase (E3744, AUD 29.98, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Jetfire (E3748, AUD 74.71, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Megatron (E3750, AUD 74.71, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Shockwave (E3576, AUD 74.71, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Red Lightning (E3831, AUD 29.98, Release Date 04/01/2019)
Stingray (E4000, AUD 1941, Release Date 02/01/2019)
Sixgun (E4378, AUD 29.88, Release Date 04/01/2019)
Thundercraker (E4490, AUD 44.82, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Springer (E4491, AUD 44.82, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Sports Car (E4492 , AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Road Patrol (E4494 , AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Optimus Prime (E4522, AUD 74.71, Release Date 08/01/2019)
Drift (E4710, AUD 29.88, Release Date 08/01/2019
*shuffles everything about*
Nitro Blue (E2802, AUD 29.88, Release Date 02/01/2019)
Ultra Magnus (E3479, AUD 74.71, Release Date 12/01/2018)
E3520 Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Deluxe Class WFC-S10 Sideswipe
Starscream (E3527, AUD 14.91, Release Date 08/01/2018)
Megatron (E3528, AUD 14.91, Release Date 08/01/2018)
Deluxe Cog (E3536, AUD 29.88, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Deluxe Hound (E3537, AUD 29.88, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Ironhide (E3538, AUD 29.88, Release Date 04/01/2019)
Prowl (E3540, AUD 29.88, Release Date 04/01/2019)
Optimus Prime (E3541, AUD 44.82, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Megatron (E3543, AUD 44.82, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Starscream (E3544, AUD 44.82, Release Date 12/01/2018)
E3550 Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Masters WFC-S1 Firedrive
Race Car (E3557, AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Battle (E3558 , AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Airstrike (E3560, AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Spy (E3561, AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Rescue (E3562 , AUD 14.91, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Rockhounds (E3633, AUD 11.93, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Prowl (E3636, AUD 22.40, Release Date 01/01/2019)
ACES (E3638, AUD 11.93, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Hot Rod (E3639, AUD 22.40, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Woodducks (E3639 , AUD 29.88, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Greenjackets (E3640 , AUD 29.88, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Bumblebee (E3641, AUD 44.82, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Prowl (E3647, AUD 14.93, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Dino (E3699, AUD 29.88, Release Date 08/01/2019)
Barricade (E3700, AUD 29.98, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Sideswipe (E3726, AUD 29.98, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Crankcase (E3744, AUD 29.98, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Jetfire (E3748, AUD 74.71, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Megatron (E3750, AUD 74.71, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Shockwave (E3576, AUD 74.71, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Red Lightning (E3831, AUD 29.98, Release Date 04/01/2019)
Stingray (E4000, AUD 1941, Release Date 02/01/2019)
Sixgun (E4378, AUD 29.88, Release Date 04/01/2019)
Thundercraker (E4490, AUD 44.82, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Springer (E4491, AUD 44.82, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Sports Car (E4492 , AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Road Patrol (E4494 , AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Optimus Prime (E4522, AUD 74.71, Release Date 08/01/2019)
Drift (E4710, AUD 29.88, Release Date 08/01/2019
Re: More Intriguing Transformers Listings on Amazon Australia (1971142)
Posted by Mr.MicroMaster on July 14th, 2018 @ 5:39pm CDT
Posted by Mr.MicroMaster on July 14th, 2018 @ 5:39pm CDT
The plot thickens.
Re: More Intriguing Transformers Listings on Amazon Australia (1971150)
Posted by william-james88 on July 14th, 2018 @ 7:00pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 14th, 2018 @ 7:00pm CDT
Can we assume this is a mix of different lines? Or is it all WFC?
Re: More Intriguing Transformers Listings on Amazon Australia (1971174)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on July 14th, 2018 @ 8:37pm CDT
I'd say it's a mix of Movie, Cyberverse and WFC.
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on July 14th, 2018 @ 8:37pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Can we assume this is a mix of different lines? Or is it all WFC?
I'd say it's a mix of Movie, Cyberverse and WFC.
Re: More Intriguing Transformers Listings on Amazon Australia (1971182)
Posted by Emerje on July 14th, 2018 @ 8:55pm CDT
This has been on the US Amazon at US$19.99, the new Deluxe MSRP for WFC and SS, for months now. Most likely anything on the list at that price will be from one of those two lines.
I have to wonder if Cog and Sixgun being listed indicate a reissue of Metroplex and Fortress Maximus is also coming?
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on July 14th, 2018 @ 8:55pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote: Red Lightning (E3831, AUD 29.98, Release Date 04/01/2019)
This has been on the US Amazon at US$19.99, the new Deluxe MSRP for WFC and SS, for months now. Most likely anything on the list at that price will be from one of those two lines.
I have to wonder if Cog and Sixgun being listed indicate a reissue of Metroplex and Fortress Maximus is also coming?
Emerje
Re: More Intriguing Transformers Listings on Amazon Australia (1971236)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 15th, 2018 @ 2:45am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 15th, 2018 @ 2:45am CDT
I wonder how hasbro would handle a re-release of older titan classes if that were true. It would probably be an online thing only. Still releasing the companions of the titans would be nice for those who already have them.
Re: More Intriguing Transformers Listings on Amazon Australia (1971388)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on July 15th, 2018 @ 7:45pm CDT
I'd say no, but never hurts to discover disappointment
What would Sixgun transform into anyway?
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on July 15th, 2018 @ 7:45pm CDT
Emerje wrote:I have to wonder if Cog and Sixgun being listed indicate a reissue of Metroplex and Fortress Maximus is also coming?
Emerje
I'd say no, but never hurts to discover disappointment
What would Sixgun transform into anyway?
Re: More Intriguing Transformers Listings on Amazon Australia (1971391)
Posted by Emerje on July 15th, 2018 @ 7:55pm CDT
...6 guns...
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on July 15th, 2018 @ 7:55pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Emerje wrote:I have to wonder if Cog and Sixgun being listed indicate a reissue of Metroplex and Fortress Maximus is also coming?
Emerje
I'd say no, but never hurts to discover disappointment
What would Sixgun transform into anyway?
...6 guns...
Emerje
Re: More Intriguing Transformers Listings on Amazon Australia (1971393)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on July 15th, 2018 @ 7:57pm CDT
... plus a tower
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on July 15th, 2018 @ 7:57pm CDT
Emerje wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Emerje wrote:I have to wonder if Cog and Sixgun being listed indicate a reissue of Metroplex and Fortress Maximus is also coming?
Emerje
I'd say no, but never hurts to discover disappointment
What would Sixgun transform into anyway?
...6 guns...
Emerje
... plus a tower
Re: More Intriguing Transformers Listings on Amazon Australia (1971400)
Posted by Emerje on July 15th, 2018 @ 8:09pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on July 15th, 2018 @ 8:09pm CDT
Yeah, that too. And would anyone really complain if it turns out he's basically a Deluxe Battlemaster? I think it'd be a neat way to get some extra weapons into the line.
And for that matter if Cog ends up being accurate to G1 then he'd basically be an Autobot Duocon.
Emerje
And for that matter if Cog ends up being accurate to G1 then he'd basically be an Autobot Duocon.
Emerje
Re: More Intriguing Transformers Listings on Amazon Australia (1971415)
Posted by WreckerJack on July 15th, 2018 @ 9:12pm CDT
Posted by WreckerJack on July 15th, 2018 @ 9:12pm CDT
Meanwhile we still don't have an explanation for Transformers Toilet Troop. 
Re: More Intriguing Transformers Listings on Amazon Australia (1971454)
Posted by Va'al on July 16th, 2018 @ 1:43am CDT
Surely you all mean submarines.
Posted by Va'al on July 16th, 2018 @ 1:43am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Emerje wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Emerje wrote:I have to wonder if Cog and Sixgun being listed indicate a reissue of Metroplex and Fortress Maximus is also coming?
Emerje
I'd say no, but never hurts to discover disappointment
What would Sixgun transform into anyway?
...6 guns...
Emerje
... plus a tower
Surely you all mean submarines.
Re: More Intriguing Transformers Listings on Amazon Australia (1973531)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on July 23rd, 2018 @ 11:33pm CDT
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on July 23rd, 2018 @ 11:33pm CDT
Right with new info from the WFC and Studio Series, here's what we have:
War For Cybertron
Ultra Magnus (E3479, AUD 74.71, Release Date 12/01/2018)
E3520 Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Deluxe Class WFC-S10 Sideswipe
Deluxe Cog (E3536, AUD 29.88, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Deluxe Hound (E3537, AUD 29.88, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Ironhide (E3538, AUD 29.88, Release Date 04/01/2019)
Prowl (E3540, AUD 29.88, Release Date 04/01/2019)
Optimus Prime (E3541, AUD 44.82, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Megatron (E3543, AUD 44.82, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Starscream (E3544, AUD 44.82, Release Date 12/01/2018)
E3550 Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Masters WFC-S1 Firedrive
Race Car (E3557, AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Battle (E3558 , AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Airstrike (E3560, AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Spy (E3561, AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Rescue (E3562 , AUD 14.91, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Sixgun (E4378, AUD 29.88, Release Date 04/01/2019)
Thundercraker (E4490, AUD 44.82, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Springer (E4491, AUD 44.82, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Sports Car (E4492 , AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Road Patrol (E4494 , AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Studio Series
Dino (E3699, AUD 29.88, Release Date 08/01/2019)
Drift (E4710, AUD 29.88, Release Date 08/01/2019
Barricade (E3700, AUD 29.98, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Sideswipe (E3726, AUD 29.98, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Crankcase (E3744, AUD 29.98, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Jetfire (E3748, AUD 74.71, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Megatron (E3750, AUD 74.71, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Unknown (possibly Bumblebee movie, or any other line)
Nitro Blue (E2802, AUD 29.88, Release Date 02/01/2019)
Woodducks (E3639 , AUD 29.88, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Greenjackets (E3640 , AUD 29.88, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Red Lightning (E3831, AUD 29.98, Release Date 04/01/2019)
Starscream (E3527, AUD 14.91, Release Date 08/01/2018)
Megatron (E3528, AUD 14.91, Release Date 08/01/2018)
Stingray (E4000, AUD 1941 14.91, Release Date 02/01/2019)
Prowl (E3647, AUD 14.93, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Rockhounds (E3633, AUD 11.93, Release Date 01/01/2019)
ACES (E3638, AUD 11.93, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Hot Rod (E3639, AUD 22.40, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Prowl (E3636, AUD 22.40, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Bumblebee (E3641, AUD 44.82, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Shockwave (E3576, AUD 74.71, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Optimus Prime (E4522, AUD 74.71, Release Date 08/01/2019)
Also, a small request NOT to news this as it's mere conjecture, and I will not be held responsible for raising or dashing one's hopes
:EDIT: organised the Unknowns by MSRP
War For Cybertron
Ultra Magnus (E3479, AUD 74.71, Release Date 12/01/2018)
E3520 Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Deluxe Class WFC-S10 Sideswipe
Deluxe Cog (E3536, AUD 29.88, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Deluxe Hound (E3537, AUD 29.88, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Ironhide (E3538, AUD 29.88, Release Date 04/01/2019)
Prowl (E3540, AUD 29.88, Release Date 04/01/2019)
Optimus Prime (E3541, AUD 44.82, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Megatron (E3543, AUD 44.82, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Starscream (E3544, AUD 44.82, Release Date 12/01/2018)
E3550 Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Masters WFC-S1 Firedrive
Race Car (E3557, AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Battle (E3558 , AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Airstrike (E3560, AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Spy (E3561, AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Rescue (E3562 , AUD 14.91, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Sixgun (E4378, AUD 29.88, Release Date 04/01/2019)
Thundercraker (E4490, AUD 44.82, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Springer (E4491, AUD 44.82, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Sports Car (E4492 , AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Road Patrol (E4494 , AUD 14.93, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Studio Series
Dino (E3699, AUD 29.88, Release Date 08/01/2019)
Drift (E4710, AUD 29.88, Release Date 08/01/2019
Barricade (E3700, AUD 29.98, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Sideswipe (E3726, AUD 29.98, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Crankcase (E3744, AUD 29.98, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Jetfire (E3748, AUD 74.71, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Megatron (E3750, AUD 74.71, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Unknown (possibly Bumblebee movie, or any other line)
Nitro Blue (E2802, AUD 29.88, Release Date 02/01/2019)
Woodducks (E3639 , AUD 29.88, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Greenjackets (E3640 , AUD 29.88, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Red Lightning (E3831, AUD 29.98, Release Date 04/01/2019)
Starscream (E3527, AUD 14.91, Release Date 08/01/2018)
Megatron (E3528, AUD 14.91, Release Date 08/01/2018)
Stingray (E4000, AUD 1941 14.91, Release Date 02/01/2019)
Prowl (E3647, AUD 14.93, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Rockhounds (E3633, AUD 11.93, Release Date 01/01/2019)
ACES (E3638, AUD 11.93, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Hot Rod (E3639, AUD 22.40, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Prowl (E3636, AUD 22.40, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Bumblebee (E3641, AUD 44.82, Release Date 01/01/2019)
Shockwave (E3576, AUD 74.71, Release Date 12/01/2018)
Optimus Prime (E4522, AUD 74.71, Release Date 08/01/2019)
Also, a small request NOT to news this as it's mere conjecture, and I will not be held responsible for raising or dashing one's hopes
:EDIT: organised the Unknowns by MSRP
