New IDW Transformers Comics Reboot Confirmed for 2019
Tuesday, August 7th, 2018 9:16AM CDT
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Namely: yes, there will be a reboot, set for some point in 2019; and yes, the licence from Hasbro has been renewed, the ending happening at the same time as the renewal was a coincidence at best. REad the relevant extracts from the piece below, and head here for the full story.
A couple of quick questions on licenses. You mentioned how you’re wrapping up your Hasbro storyline. Was that done in conjunction with the time for renewal of the license?
Yeah. It's funny, I've seen some commentary on that. We've been in business with Hasbro for 12 years. We love the relationship. They are a great partner. We try to deliver the best possible books month in and month out on not just Transformers, but on GI Joe and on My Little Pony. We had a great Jem and the Holograms series. Jem will be back. They're probably going to say, "Why is Greg pre‑announcing these things?" In any event, no. Sometimes, it's easy to extrapolate incorrect information, so no, the Transformers line and the other titles continue.
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We’ve got three monthly Marvel books as of January 2019, the opportunity to do some specials, maybe one‑shots and some other things with Marvel. They're very excited about it, we're very excited about it.
Our Transformers reboot for 2019 is going to be great.
We've got some pretty exciting projects on the Star Trek front.
[Teenage Mutant Ninja] Turtles is heading to issue 100. We have the longest‑running Turtles series in the history of the brand. The brand's 35 years old next year.
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Posted by Tommy T. on August 7th, 2018 @ 10:04am CDT
Posted by Agent 53 on August 7th, 2018 @ 10:09am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 7th, 2018 @ 10:21am CDT
Posted by Black Bumblebee on August 7th, 2018 @ 11:07am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 7th, 2018 @ 11:10am CDT
Black Bumblebee wrote:Figured. The reboot is pretty much to get rid of all that "shared universe" stuff that completely ruined all the comic brands. Couldn't reboot one without rebooting the others... so... BOOM, grand reset button.
Actually from what's been said it looked like it was always the plan to end things once barber and Roberts were finished, so the badly implementated hasbroverse isn't to blame for this.
I can still see it working but they need to have a better plan in place from the get go
Posted by Randomhero on August 7th, 2018 @ 11:54am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Black Bumblebee wrote:Figured. The reboot is pretty much to get rid of all that "shared universe" stuff that completely ruined all the comic brands. Couldn't reboot one without rebooting the others... so... BOOM, grand reset button.
Actually from what's been said it looked like it was always the plan to end things once barber and Roberts were finished, so the badly implementated hasbroverse isn't to blame for this.
I can still see it working but they need to have a better plan in place from the get go
John was planning on wrapping up his story this year and contacted James and said “I think I figured out how much I have left and then I’m done”. James said he was just looking at his outline and figured out he too wanted to wrap up his run. John contacted hasbro and told them his and James intentions and through the talks they decided maybe it’s time to conclude the entire IDW-verse. 13 years is a helluva co to unity. Longest running transformers continuity.
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 7th, 2018 @ 12:12pm CDT
Posted by Randomhero on August 7th, 2018 @ 12:28pm CDT
John also revealed he didn’t expect to be writing RID/TF/OP this long. He said usually in an ongoing youre on for maybe 8-12 issues and you move on but the impact he and James have done has been amazing and they got to go for over 6 years now.
Posted by Nexus Knight on August 7th, 2018 @ 12:57pm CDT
Posted by Randomhero on August 7th, 2018 @ 1:10pm CDT
Nexus Knight wrote:Probably an opinion that many will disagree with, but I hope they bring the shared universe back in a heater fashion. I absolutely loved the idea, because it showed there was more than my favorite franchise there. Everything they did had consequences elsewhere. And I loved those types of stories. Plus, I got introduced to some new stuff that I now enjoy (namely M.A.S.K. and Micronauts).
I enjoyed the shared universe. I liked revolution, revolutionaries, Rom vs transformers and I’m sorry people but I enjoyed visionaries vs transformers.
I enjoy comics and in my honest opinion the vocal minority about the shared universe just reminded me of kids playing with their transformers and one kid came by and said “I just have g.i. Joes can I play?” And then other kids were bringing in their toys and the kids playing with transformers just got pissy and said they won’t bring their transformers to play anymore because everyone ruined their thing with their other It’s.
I don’t know anything about the other solo series or franchises but I really enjoyed going to the IDW wiki and learning about them.
Posted by X3ROhour on August 7th, 2018 @ 1:15pm CDT
and this
and these
Characters and personas we have grown to love!
not to mention, what happens to...
and
As well as dozens of other things
and personalities
and ideas
and constructs
and characters
and relationships
and so on!
Do these people go back to being who the were?
Does love exist in the new World?
Do reformed bad guys go back to their old ways?
Do bots, who didn't exist before, cease to be?
Gods i hope not!
i hope that the reboot allows for some amount of leeway,
and doesn't forget the fantasticness that got us here.
Posted by ScottyP on August 7th, 2018 @ 1:15pm CDT
This is part of it, however, the Hasbro U ending in its entirety was a business decision. That's why it went from "something else" to "Unicron". Creative teams have been finished with their contributions plenty of times (Furman, McCarthy, Costa, Scott, et al), the reset button on the whole huge thing is absolutely business driven.Randomhero wrote:A lot of people assumed it’s because the hasbro-verse tanked and this ending is because that or sales havent been stellar but that interview I mentioned last month from moonbase 2 with is very much worth a listen. John is very open about how they did it intend to end it till July or August and it was their choice. John and James made the choice, not IDW not hasbro.
It's cool with me if folks choose not to believe that. I can wait for vindication on this after some years pass and the parties involved can really say what's what, hell I'm sure I've "telephone gamed" this on accident somehow anyway Everything everyone else has mentioned is a factor too, if it helps!
Edit so as to not double-post:
Pick up the Micronauts Omnibus book tomorrow. If you liked that stuff, I think you'll really enjoy what they did. It sputters a bit in the middle but on the whole it's an extremely fun series! Even brings the "toybox come to life concept" close to literally true in one issue. "A fine weapon" - Acroyear describing a... well you'll find outRandomhero wrote: I don’t know anything about the other solo series or franchises but I really enjoyed going to the IDW wiki and learning about them.
Posted by Agent 53 on August 7th, 2018 @ 2:03pm CDT
Z3ROhour wrote:among my various concerns for the continuity reboot is this:
and this
and these
Characters and personas we have grown to love!
not to mention, what happens to...
and
As well as dozens of other things
and personalities
and ideas
and constructs
and characters
and relationships
and so on!
Do these people go back to being who the were?
Does love exist in the new World?
Do reformed bad guys go back to their old ways?
Do bots, who didn't exist before, cease to be?
Gods i hope not!
i hope that the reboot allows for some amount of leeway,
and doesn't forget the fantasticness that got us here.
I suspect, if the writers have any intelligence, that they will find a way to maintain the characters and concepts from old-IDW in new-IDW, I mean Windblade certainly has been a key part of RID (2015) and us set for the Cyberverse cartoon (and have Hasbro really run out of name already?) so I bet the things that you, and I, love about IDW will endure.
Posted by Amelie on August 7th, 2018 @ 2:09pm CDT
One thing (or several, depending on your view). I loathe GI Joe, ROM, MASK, Visionaries ect in my Transformers comic. Combining these into some turdstorm of a collective universe comes across as an assumption you're going to be into all of the Hasbro 'male' fandoms. The transformers vs GI mini series was fun, in its bonkers way, but the regular appearance of Joes ect in mainline makes my eyes roll back so hard I can see my brain.
So please, IDW - I just want Transformers to be Transformers. No GI Joe, My Little Pony ect in my Transformers universe or I'll probably stop reading.
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 7th, 2018 @ 2:19pm CDT
Posted by Randomhero on August 7th, 2018 @ 2:23pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:This is part of it, however, the Hasbro U ending in its entirety was a business decision. That's why it went from "something else" to "Unicron". Creative teams have been finished with their contributions plenty of times (Furman, McCarthy, Costa, Scott, et al), the reset button on the whole huge thing is absolutely business driven.Randomhero wrote:A lot of people assumed it’s because the hasbro-verse tanked and this ending is because that or sales havent been stellar but that interview I mentioned last month from moonbase 2 with is very much worth a listen. John is very open about how they did it intend to end it till July or August and it was their choice. John and James made the choice, not IDW not hasbro.
It's cool with me if folks choose not to believe that. I can wait for vindication on this after some years pass and the parties involved can really say what's what, hell I'm sure I've "telephone gamed" this on accident somehow anyway Everything everyone else has mentioned is a factor too, if it helps!
Edit so as to not double-post:Pick up the Micronauts Omnibus book tomorrow. If you liked that stuff, I think you'll really enjoy what they did. It sputters a bit in the middle but on the whole it's an extremely fun series! Even brings the "toybox come to life concept" close to literally true in one issue. "A fine weapon" - Acroyear describing a... well you'll find outRandomhero wrote: I don’t know anything about the other solo series or franchises but I really enjoyed going to the IDW wiki and learning about them.
Well that was also under Andy Schmidt who was legitimately making some bad calls and just wanting to “BOOST SALES BOOST SALES! New soft reboot here! New soft reboot there! Focus on 1984! That’s what people know!’
I don’t know I mean John says it was their choice to put it to a close. He said in the interview him and James went to the guy that works for Hasbro and intermediates between Hasbro and IDW and said they were planning on just concluding their stories and passing the torch but through the talks they pitched maybe just concluding the entire universe and Hasbro said sure.
Posted by Burn on August 7th, 2018 @ 4:01pm CDT
They've set themselves an incredibly high standard to reach though. I doubt anyone who was there at the beginning thought they would do a 13 year run which at the heart of it was one big story with many, MANY branches. It gave us old characters through fresh eyes, it gave us lesser known characters who finally were given character, it gave us new characters, and they're wrapping it up with a neat little bow on top (hopefully).
To top all of that, they're really going to have to step up.
Or they could just become Marvel/DC and churn out a monthly book that really doesn't do much other than throw in some shock value with the death/return of some character that's quickly forgotten about in two months.
And if they want to try the shared universe again, this is a good chance. Let each line establish itself before bringing them together, but make it flow naturally. Don't just force them together, that didn't work out too well last time.
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 7th, 2018 @ 4:37pm CDT
Posted by Burn on August 7th, 2018 @ 5:04pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 7th, 2018 @ 5:08pm CDT
Posted by Amelie on August 7th, 2018 @ 5:53pm CDT
Posted by Burn on August 7th, 2018 @ 5:58pm CDT
Amelie wrote:As an aside - I really want IDW to stop doing the previews. Sometimes you can actually keep up with the plot developments just by putting 2+2 together from two months of previews. That really needs to stop....
100% agree with this, and it's something I've bitched to Va'al about on numerous occasions. Quite often there's a small window between when the latest book is released and previews for upcoming books. Discussion about the latest book is quickly replaced by discussion about the previews, one reason I stopped discussing the comics on here.
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 7th, 2018 @ 6:05pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 7th, 2018 @ 6:19pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:While I can't see IDW stopping them, we could talk about their impact here, would it be better if the previews were handled like the last post light one where you had to follow the link to get to it instead of having the pages mirrored?
I agree it would be better this way.
As for the new comics, While I loved IDW and what it's done, I'm hoping for a WFC tie in. I wouldn't mind some old war stories. Fall of Cybertron the video game did a great job of this, and is still considered by me to be one of the best TF stories, so something along the games lines but in comic form would be cool.
Besides, don't forget, there are usually a lot more civilians than combatants in wars
Posted by Amelie on August 7th, 2018 @ 6:19pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:While I can't see IDW stopping them, we could talk about their impact here, would it be better if the previews were handled like the last post light one where you had to follow the link to get to it instead of having the pages mirrored?
I think, impact-wise - its best to only provide the link, with a separate topic for previews, so the current issue has space to breathe and for those that don't want to see previews to not have it spoiled in discussion.
Posted by Burn on August 7th, 2018 @ 7:08pm CDT
Amelie wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:While I can't see IDW stopping them, we could talk about their impact here, would it be better if the previews were handled like the last post light one where you had to follow the link to get to it instead of having the pages mirrored?
I think, impact-wise - its best to only provide the link, with a separate topic for previews, so the current issue has space to breathe and for those that don't want to see previews to not have it spoiled in discussion.
I'm all for a separate thread for previews, helps avoid any potential spoilers, keeps two topics of discussion going. But that's Va'al's call.
Posted by Chibi Starscream on August 7th, 2018 @ 9:07pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 8th, 2018 @ 2:31am CDT
Burn wrote:Amelie wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:While I can't see IDW stopping them, we could talk about their impact here, would it be better if the previews were handled like the last post light one where you had to follow the link to get to it instead of having the pages mirrored?
I think, impact-wise - its best to only provide the link, with a separate topic for previews, so the current issue has space to breathe and for those that don't want to see previews to not have it spoiled in discussion.
I'm all for a separate thread for previews, helps avoid any potential spoilers, keeps two topics of discussion going. But that's Va'al's call.
I think a separate thread is a good idea unless anyone can think of a benefit to how it's done currently other than good housekeeping.
Posted by Va'al on August 8th, 2018 @ 3:25am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 8th, 2018 @ 5:25am CDT
Posted by Burn on August 8th, 2018 @ 5:35am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Would the reviews go into a separate thread as well since they can occasionally go spoilerish?
MULTI-THREAD!!!!!!!!!
It's not like they're going to break the forums. And if they do, we blame Cobotron.
Posted by Va'al on August 8th, 2018 @ 5:41am CDT
Are you suggesting a third?
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 8th, 2018 @ 5:52am CDT
Posted by o.supreme on August 8th, 2018 @ 10:00am CDT
Tommy T. wrote:Mabey TMNT reached 100 because they dont have a bunch of there characters running around hugging and holding hands being in love with each other. Just saying
I'm not disagreeing, but The IDW TF continuity in truth has over 400 issues. IDW just chose to keep starting over and relaunching in an attempt to give newer fans a jumping on point, even though the entire 13 year run was all connected.
What will happen in 2019 is something completely new (for good or ill). I mean what Z3ROhour is afraid of losing, is pretty much everything I HOPE is NOT present in the new series. I want something closer to the original Sunbow Animated series, though I seriously doubt we will get that. So you can't appease all fans, just as IDW didn't.
I feel a great relief however that this current iteration of IDW is ending. I don't have to keep up with it anymore. The new series I can review form afar. If it turns out to be awful, then I don't have to get it. If it turns out to be good, I can purchase Trades over time, if it is consistently good, not just only on occasion.
Posted by ArmadaPrime on August 8th, 2018 @ 2:30pm CDT
Burn wrote:Amelie wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:While I can't see IDW stopping them, we could talk about their impact here, would it be better if the previews were handled like the last post light one where you had to follow the link to get to it instead of having the pages mirrored?
I think, impact-wise - its best to only provide the link, with a separate topic for previews, so the current issue has space to breathe and for those that don't want to see previews to not have it spoiled in discussion.
I'm all for a separate thread for previews, helps avoid any potential spoilers, keeps two topics of discussion going. But that's Va'al's call.
At risk of a little equine necromancy, could this perhaps be solved by ending megathreads, and having a separate discussion for each issue? Thread gets created at the time of the preview, whilst those avoiding previews could jump on board when the issue drops. Meanwhile, the old thread still exists for people to carry on discussing the previous issue.
I'm not completely sure, as realistically there'll always be some duplication of discussion however things are divided. I just wonder if separating the previews would split the discussions into the "reading-the-previews" camp and the "not-reading-previews" camp, even for non-spoilery things. That might kinda stifle both discussions a little?
Posted by Va'al on August 8th, 2018 @ 2:33pm CDT
Posted by ArmadaPrime on August 8th, 2018 @ 2:48pm CDT
Va'al wrote:Any good solutions overall, not just for comics, are welcome!
Dang, good solutions? Now those I can't guarantee...
To throw my own opinion in though, I do think I've been less active on the boards since the introduction of megathreads. That is about 90% due to circumstance, but there's definitely a small element of finding the big threads... overwhelming? Perhaps not quite the word, but with 5 different conversations and tons of posts daily I felt less able to keep up with the discussion. Then again, I had similar feelings when threads were separate and I was trying to keep track of multiple threads in parallel.
Perhaps if there's a neat way to divide megathreads into... kilothreads, that could work? Such as "WFC2019 Toyline: Leaks, Rumours, Hopes, and Predictions*", "WFC2019 Toyline: Reviews and your in-hand thoughts", "WFC2019 Toyline: sightings and store-related news", "WFC2019 Toyline: the accompanying fiction".
Or, y'know. Some logical categories that actually made sense
*and oxford commas
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 8th, 2018 @ 2:52pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on August 8th, 2018 @ 3:45pm CDT
As for the new IDW, I repeat what I said elsewhere: bring back something like the Spotlights!
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 8th, 2018 @ 3:50pm CDT
Va'al wrote:We were, this was me derailing the conversation, sorry! I'll open a thread as soon as get to it about new ways of organizing the forums, and see where we go from there.
As for the new IDW, I repeat what I said elsewhere: bring back something like the Spotlights!
No problem
I do hope they bring the spotlights back and this time really shine a light on underused characters.
What's the chance we'll hear something at NYCC? I know we're still still probably 8 months+ off from the reboot starting but they got to be thinking now about things...right?
Posted by o.supreme on August 8th, 2018 @ 3:53pm CDT
Va'al wrote:As for the new IDW, I repeat what I said elsewhere: bring back something like the Spotlights!
Yes! also... while were on the subject, how about profile books? I mean IDW reprinted DW MTMTE, DW did an Armada MTMTE, and IDW did one for BW... I still think it would have been great to get one for Japanese only characters, as well as profile books for other incarnations (RiD, TFA, Movieverse etc...)
Also, although it's come to an end, I'm sure some folks would like profile books for the characters as they were portrayed throughout IDW's 13 year run, since many of them deviate form their classic Original Series personality. I'm not sure how you could do it...
I mean if we gat a Star Saber entry, I'd want it to be all about the one form Victory NOT the crazy IDW zealot. Perhaps they could do both to make everyone happy??
Posted by Va'al on August 8th, 2018 @ 3:59pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Va'al wrote:As for the new IDW, I repeat what I said elsewhere: bring back something like the Spotlights!
Yes! also... while were on the subject, how about profile books? I mean IDW reprinted DW MTMTE, DW did an Armada MTMTE, and IDW did one for BW... I still think it would have been great to get one for Japanese only characters, as well as profile books for other incarnations (RiD, TFA, Movieverse etc...)
Also, although it's come to an end, I'm sure some folks would like profile books for the characters as they were portrayed throughout IDW's 13 year run, since many of them deviate form their classic Original Series personality. I'm not sure how you could do it...
I mean if we gat a Star Saber entry, I'd want it to be all about the one form Victory NOT the crazy IDW zealot. Perhaps they could do both to make everyone happy??
I think profile books would have to be based on new continuity characterisation, to be fair, so maybe there is no Star Saber at all!
Posted by Va'al on August 8th, 2018 @ 4:05pm CDT
Swerving a little here, but a thought I had finally coalesced into something coherent last night, and I needed to write it down.
Plenty of people have been saying this in the past years too, but what I'd also really like to see in a new fictional universe is something similar to the initial Spotlights that the -ation era brought in - not only focusing on new characters, and giving them a personal story that can then be woven into the wider narrative, but also to ..well, spotlight new creative teams. And I mean NEW creative teams.
I want to see the fan artists who made variant covers get to do some interior work, but I also want to see entirely new writers pitch a story and get to write it themselves, pairing up with artists and colours under editorial guidance from IDW (be it Barber or Mariotte, and Long on production, for example). Think of the Mosaics project, think of the Seeds of Deception et al. on deviantArt (that we keep seeing in the creative round-ups).
You could call it Siege: War Stories, if the new narratives have to do with War for Cybertron. Get fans - all fans - to pitch the plots, the team, the one character story, have OCs show up alongside the core cast from Siege, have stories that could be in the background (NAILs, grunts, Badgeless, whoever) take front and centre for one issue, and then be forgotten if needed, but give them and the fandom a chance to actually suggest what we could want to see. It's less feasible the more I get excited about it, but holy shirt it would be amazing and a way to get really new, fresh material show up from the already extremely prolific creative side of the fandom.
Va'al wrote:Burn wrote:See, this would work!
There's characters out there that have only appeared in a handful of panels. Predators, Turbomasters, Obliterators, Cyberjets, Axelerators ... the list goes on! All these little teams that could be highlighted. It's something I've wanted to see for years.
And you could work it in with the Micro and Battle Masters for more Brand Synergy if you wanted to, or use it as a gauging platform for redecos or remolds or even exclusives. You want to make comics that sell the toys? Give us characters we really connect with, and then release the actual toy!
ZeroWolf wrote:Burn wrote:Something completely random, something that would make IDW stand out to other publishers.
Short three panel strip in each issue (bottom of letters page), similar in vein to the old "Robo-Capers" that appeared in the Marvel UK TF comics.
Completely separate and not aligned with the rest of the book. Just a short little funny comic.
yes, I would like this as well, or alternatively have funny little outtakes of how key scenes might be messed up as if it was a shoot for a movie or tv show. Something light though wouldn't go amiss
Posted by o.supreme on August 8th, 2018 @ 4:09pm CDT
I mean a new profile book based on new continuity would make sense, but you could have a separate series for characters already established in classic continuity that we did not get with the previous MTMTE.
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 8th, 2018 @ 4:16pm CDT
@Profile books
The only way I could see something like these working is if they did a series of them which covered every version of the character that existed. For someone like Starsaber, you would have five entries, first being toy bio, second how he was in the victory anime, third being how he was in the Victory Manga and lastly, covering his appearance in the Robot Masters toyline.
Something like that will get quite big, quite fast.
Posted by ausbot on August 8th, 2018 @ 8:35pm CDT
Posted by ScottyP on August 9th, 2018 @ 8:27am CDT
Posted by o.supreme on August 9th, 2018 @ 9:57am CDT
ScottyP wrote:They made profile books last year, y'all just ignored them because Hasbroverse.
I even purchased those, but forgot them . But those were hardly complete, and only included as you say, the main players of the combined Hasbroverse. Besides, I don't need all those fleshies Just the Transformers themselves are fine.
I don't think you'd have to do every iteration of each character. I mean DW seemed to do an amalgamation of the original toy, and animated series character. If the character never appeared in animation, then they expanded on the toy bio. I mean (I don't know why I keep going back to Star Saber) but....His Toy, Animation, Manga, & RM personas are all pretty similiar. It's only in IDW that things got way out of character. I don't need/want a Wiki in print form. Just a nice awesome profile pic in robot and alt modes, with a one page write up summarizing the character, as they are most prominently known.
Posted by ReubenPrime on August 10th, 2018 @ 4:11pm CDT
Posted by ArmadaPrime on August 10th, 2018 @ 6:24pm CDT
I actually think that including some Hasbroverse elements from the get-go is the way forward (it certainly beats shoehorning them in 10 years down the line).
It doesn't have to be anything major! For example, human military characters will inevitably appear at some point, so why not have those be some of the lesser-known Joes from a concurrently running GI Joe series. No big deal of WOW LOOK THESE GUYS ARE THEM THERE JOES, just a little editorial box like "Check out Roadblock et al's other adventures in GI Joe #1-5, if you like! Or don't, if you dont!".
The slightly more far-out properties like the Micronauts and ROM might be a bit harder to work in, but then again any space-based group of TFs could easily happen across a few Solstar Knights for an issue or so and then go on their merry way.
Perhaps cold hard capitalism means that for it to be worthwhile including these other IPs they have to make a song and dance about it, but it'd feel much more realistic if it was just the occasional crossing of paths as a cameo/guest role every now and then.
...then again, I'd welcome the commercialised event-style crossover with open arms if it brought Action Man back to us. Revolutionaries was a wonderfully fun and fantastically dumb series which did Revolution better than Revolution itself did, and I'll hear nothing to the contrary