New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus
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Site sponsor TFsoure has sent us an update with some exciting news and images!
- First we have confirmation that the long rumored black repaint is coming in the form of MP-10B Masterpiece Black Convoy.
- Next we have color images of MP-15 Ravage & Rumble AND images of MP-16 Frenzy & Buzzsaw. Based on a Takara Tomy solicitation posted by NAUGHTY GUY this will be a case of RIRFIB.
- Moving on, we images of yesterday's big reveal Encore #23 Fortress Maximus, who appears to come with the Master Sword!
- Lastly we an update on Encore #20A, that was originally thought to be a yellow version of the Devastator gift set, will actually be a more cartoon accurate version of Devastator including a remolded head. (image courtesy of Famitoy).
Credit(s): Trikeboy,TFsource, daimchoc, Famitoy
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Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426643)
Posted by Grimlock Shakur on October 4th, 2012 @ 8:24am CDT
Posted by Grimlock Shakur on October 4th, 2012 @ 8:24am CDT
wow... good news! glad they're doing something different with the masterpieces... and putting out the extra little details out! good job Takara! (Hasbro please take notes!)
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426645)
Posted by F Prime on October 4th, 2012 @ 8:27am CDT
Posted by F Prime on October 4th, 2012 @ 8:27am CDT
Pretty excited. I definitely want Fort Max and I find 60$ for two Masterpiece Cassettes to be a pretty damn fair price! I was expecting more given the current state of affairs with TF pricing.
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426648)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 4th, 2012 @ 8:34am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 4th, 2012 @ 8:34am CDT
MP-10B - Oh, so that's what the silhouette was for. Though, I wonder what this guy's story is, since he's a Decepticon.
MP Cassettrons - Those. Look. GORGEOUS!!! Hasbro, import these things, ASAP!
Encore #23 Fort Max - YAY! Master Sword!
Encore #20A - Cool. I guess the "A" is short for "Anime", since this is a show-accurate Devastator.
MP Cassettrons - Those. Look. GORGEOUS!!! Hasbro, import these things, ASAP!
Encore #23 Fort Max - YAY! Master Sword!
Encore #20A - Cool. I guess the "A" is short for "Anime", since this is a show-accurate Devastator.
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426650)
Posted by CBratetron on October 4th, 2012 @ 8:35am CDT
Posted by CBratetron on October 4th, 2012 @ 8:35am CDT
£55 for two isn't so bad. Not sure I want all of them. My priorities are Laserbeak and Ravage.
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426654)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on October 4th, 2012 @ 8:53am CDT
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on October 4th, 2012 @ 8:53am CDT
See, BTS? THIS is how you do a modern update for Ravage and the Rumble mold.
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426659)
Posted by munckee on October 4th, 2012 @ 8:59am CDT
Posted by munckee on October 4th, 2012 @ 8:59am CDT
g1 scourge......... mmmmmmmm now this i can really drool over ooooooooooh yes 
now we need a third party oil tanker trailer and sheeeeet ill be clean out of moneys!
oh RID scourge how you swam through the dreams of my childhood hehe... well my early teens or wenever it was that RID was on
now we need a third party oil tanker trailer and sheeeeet ill be clean out of moneys!oh RID scourge how you swam through the dreams of my childhood hehe... well my early teens or wenever it was that RID was on
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426684)
Posted by KNM2012 on October 4th, 2012 @ 9:54am CDT
Posted by KNM2012 on October 4th, 2012 @ 9:54am CDT
I am pretty much prepping up to preorder Fortress Maximus. He is the #1 reason why "The Headmasters" is my favorite series, and is going to be the centerpiece to my entire collection. That, and while the "early bird" option is available, I'll wait the extra month as I [hope to] have a lot on my plate when it comes to March. 
As for the tapes, I just hope people will remember three things:
1) RIRFIB is only fact if you follow the original toyline, the Japanese take of the series, and the original Marvel series. It is only the other way around in the English dubbed version, which post-dates both the toyline and comic series.
2) These are Masterpiece versions of the tapes, which means that there is added detail and articulation added. Plus, and atop of that, they are Japanese imports. So you should consider the added price as being both those things and the fact you are buying from a middle-man.
3) There was a third, but I had forgotten it. However, lets hope this means we shall see an MP version of Blaster in the foreseeable future.
As for the tapes, I just hope people will remember three things:
1) RIRFIB is only fact if you follow the original toyline, the Japanese take of the series, and the original Marvel series. It is only the other way around in the English dubbed version, which post-dates both the toyline and comic series.
2) These are Masterpiece versions of the tapes, which means that there is added detail and articulation added. Plus, and atop of that, they are Japanese imports. So you should consider the added price as being both those things and the fact you are buying from a middle-man.
3) There was a third, but I had forgotten it. However, lets hope this means we shall see an MP version of Blaster in the foreseeable future.
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426714)
Posted by kirbenvost on October 4th, 2012 @ 11:03am CDT
Posted by kirbenvost on October 4th, 2012 @ 11:03am CDT
Thank freakin' god Rumble is red. Now I don't have to worry about picking up both sets just to get the one I want. Rumble & Ravage will be good enough!
Black Convoy, who didn't see that coming.
Interesting to note that he's a legit Decepticon this time around. Cool, but I've decided to skip out on Black Convoy/Nemesis Primes if I already have the corresponding Optimus Prime, unless there's a really good reason to get it like TFCC Scourge.
Devy looks a little odd. I'm glad I picked up the first Encore release, although it's still sitting in my Loot.
Black Convoy, who didn't see that coming.
Interesting to note that he's a legit Decepticon this time around. Cool, but I've decided to skip out on Black Convoy/Nemesis Primes if I already have the corresponding Optimus Prime, unless there's a really good reason to get it like TFCC Scourge.Devy looks a little odd. I'm glad I picked up the first Encore release, although it's still sitting in my Loot.
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426718)
Posted by wewyllenium on October 4th, 2012 @ 11:12am CDT
Posted by wewyllenium on October 4th, 2012 @ 11:12am CDT
The Cassettes are top priority along with MP Soundwave. I'm fine with the price. Black Convoy is an easy pass... for now. 
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426727)
Posted by craggy on October 4th, 2012 @ 11:39am CDT
Posted by craggy on October 4th, 2012 @ 11:39am CDT
would it be awesome if these were less expensive? yes, of course.
do I feel I'm being ripped off, or that it's not worth it, or has anything stopped me from pre-ordering the cassettes? nosiree.
I very rarely pre-order stuff like this, but Dat Frezy and Dat Rumble. Ravage looks pretty darn awesome too. Buzzsaw is, as ever, a non-entity who I'll be considering as little more that a slightly miscoloured Laserbeak.
Still not sure I'll get MP Soundwave but the tapes are a must. Bring on Blaster's tapes too!
do I feel I'm being ripped off, or that it's not worth it, or has anything stopped me from pre-ordering the cassettes? nosiree.
I very rarely pre-order stuff like this, but Dat Frezy and Dat Rumble. Ravage looks pretty darn awesome too. Buzzsaw is, as ever, a non-entity who I'll be considering as little more that a slightly miscoloured Laserbeak.
Still not sure I'll get MP Soundwave but the tapes are a must. Bring on Blaster's tapes too!
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426733)
Posted by RiddlerJ on October 4th, 2012 @ 11:51am CDT
Posted by RiddlerJ on October 4th, 2012 @ 11:51am CDT
I was on the fence about Soundwave, but now seeing him along with those cassettes, those beautiful cassettes...
My wallet weeps
My wallet weeps
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426738)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 4th, 2012 @ 11:56am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 4th, 2012 @ 11:56am CDT
Call me crazy but I'm getting a strange feeling of deja vu from reading his post.craggy wrote:would it be awesome if these were less expensive? yes, of course.
do I feel I'm being ripped off, or that it's not worth it, or has anything stopped me from pre-ordering the cassettes? nosiree.
I very rarely pre-order stuff like this, but Dat Frezy and Dat Rumble. Ravage looks pretty darn awesome too. Buzzsaw is, as ever, a non-entity who I'll be considering as little more that a slightly miscoloured Laserbeak.
Still not sure I'll get MP Soundwave but the tapes are a must. Bring on Blaster's tapes too!
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426765)
Posted by Bubbah on October 4th, 2012 @ 1:08pm CDT
Posted by Bubbah on October 4th, 2012 @ 1:08pm CDT
Oh man! Those cassettes are just so ... They're gorgeous!! Soundwave is the first MP I've preorder and the first I'm importing before waiting on a US release, so these tapes totally justify it all and make me weep with pleasure! I cannot get over how amazing those little guys are!
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426768)
Posted by craggy on October 4th, 2012 @ 1:18pm CDT
I think I've been saying the same thing since we first saw the protos. Sorry if I'm repeating myself.
Posted by craggy on October 4th, 2012 @ 1:18pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Call me crazy but I'm getting a strange feeling of deja vu from reading his post.craggy wrote:would it be awesome if these were less expensive? yes, of course.
do I feel I'm being ripped off, or that it's not worth it, or has anything stopped me from pre-ordering the cassettes? nosiree.
I very rarely pre-order stuff like this, but Dat Frezy and Dat Rumble. Ravage looks pretty darn awesome too. Buzzsaw is, as ever, a non-entity who I'll be considering as little more that a slightly miscoloured Laserbeak.
Still not sure I'll get MP Soundwave but the tapes are a must. Bring on Blaster's tapes too!
I think I've been saying the same thing since we first saw the protos.
Sorry if I'm repeating myself.
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426772)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 4th, 2012 @ 1:23pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 4th, 2012 @ 1:23pm CDT
What's funny is that even the date felt familiar, but I don't recall seeing this kind of post at any other point today.craggy wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Call me crazy but I'm getting a strange feeling of deja vu from reading his post.craggy wrote:would it be awesome if these were less expensive? yes, of course.
do I feel I'm being ripped off, or that it's not worth it, or has anything stopped me from pre-ordering the cassettes? nosiree.
I very rarely pre-order stuff like this, but Dat Frezy and Dat Rumble. Ravage looks pretty darn awesome too. Buzzsaw is, as ever, a non-entity who I'll be considering as little more that a slightly miscoloured Laserbeak.
Still not sure I'll get MP Soundwave but the tapes are a must. Bring on Blaster's tapes too!
I think I've been saying the same thing since we first saw the protos.
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426780)
Posted by Blurrz on October 4th, 2012 @ 1:53pm CDT
Posted by Blurrz on October 4th, 2012 @ 1:53pm CDT
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426802)
Posted by Squawk'n'talk on October 4th, 2012 @ 3:24pm CDT
Posted by Squawk'n'talk on October 4th, 2012 @ 3:24pm CDT
All kinds of wonderful. I foresee a snag though - does this mean Ratbat will come with the Soundblaster repaint? ouch.
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426805)
Posted by Bubbah on October 4th, 2012 @ 3:29pm CDT
Maybe he'll come with Slugfest or Overkill in another pack. MP16 is an easy set, because the base mold is already done, so Ratbat could be part of a third set, hopefully.
Posted by Bubbah on October 4th, 2012 @ 3:29pm CDT
Squawk'n'talk wrote:All kinds of wonderful. I foresee a snag though - does this mean Ratbat will come with the Soundblaster repaint? ouch.
Maybe he'll come with Slugfest or Overkill in another pack. MP16 is an easy set, because the base mold is already done, so Ratbat could be part of a third set, hopefully.
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426807)
Posted by KNM2012 on October 4th, 2012 @ 3:35pm CDT
I feel for ya as wallet weeps as well, and is on suicide watch as I have just preordered Fortress Maximus.
But yeah... When you get them and choose to display them outside the boxes, please send me a pic.
Posted by KNM2012 on October 4th, 2012 @ 3:35pm CDT
RiddlerJ wrote:I was on the fence about Soundwave, but now seeing him along with those cassettes, those beautiful cassettes...
My wallet weeps
I feel for ya as wallet weeps as well, and is on suicide watch as I have just preordered Fortress Maximus.
But yeah... When you get them and choose to display them outside the boxes, please send me a pic.
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426811)
Posted by zappatton2 on October 4th, 2012 @ 3:38pm CDT
Or if they ever do Blaster, they can do a mixed alliance release. Example; Blaster comes with Eject, Rewind and Ramhorn are together, and Ratbat gets packed with Steeljaw. Either way, I've already put in my pre-order. Gotta say, when I first saw the grey Ravage prototype, I thought it looked kinda crappy, but seeing the finished product (even if it is blurry), he looks awesome!
Posted by zappatton2 on October 4th, 2012 @ 3:38pm CDT
Bubbah wrote:Squawk'n'talk wrote:All kinds of wonderful. I foresee a snag though - does this mean Ratbat will come with the Soundblaster repaint? ouch.
Maybe he'll come with Slugfest or Overkill in another pack. MP16 is an easy set, because the base mold is already done, so Ratbat could be part of a third set, hopefully.
Or if they ever do Blaster, they can do a mixed alliance release. Example; Blaster comes with Eject, Rewind and Ramhorn are together, and Ratbat gets packed with Steeljaw. Either way, I've already put in my pre-order. Gotta say, when I first saw the grey Ravage prototype, I thought it looked kinda crappy, but seeing the finished product (even if it is blurry), he looks awesome!
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426819)
Posted by NTESHFT on October 4th, 2012 @ 3:47pm CDT
Posted by NTESHFT on October 4th, 2012 @ 3:47pm CDT
Where's that Picture of Fry with the shut up and take my money?....
Though, I'm passing on the Prime. I'm getting the cassettes . Those guys and Soundwave?!? It's gonna be legen, wait for it................
Though, I'm passing on the Prime. I'm getting the cassettes . Those guys and Soundwave?!? It's gonna be legen, wait for it................
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426835)
Posted by Deruji on October 4th, 2012 @ 4:12pm CDT
Posted by Deruji on October 4th, 2012 @ 4:12pm CDT
Still cheaper than trying to buy those encore rereleases.
Finally I can get all cassettes
Finally I can get all cassettes
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426837)
Posted by Bubbah on October 4th, 2012 @ 4:14pm CDT
Oh don't worry, I have every intention on sharing! The group shot will be the wallpaper to my phone, my desktop, blow up a poster sized one for the house, I'll sell 8x10s, keep one in my wallet, and may even get a locket to wear with one ... ok, so that's a lil over the top, but you get my point
DARY!
Posted by Bubbah on October 4th, 2012 @ 4:14pm CDT
KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:RiddlerJ wrote:I was on the fence about Soundwave, but now seeing him along with those cassettes, those beautiful cassettes...
My wallet weeps
I feel for ya as wallet weeps as well, and is on suicide watch as I have just preordered Fortress Maximus.
But yeah... When you get them and choose to display them outside the boxes, please send me a pic.
Oh don't worry, I have every intention on sharing! The group shot will be the wallpaper to my phone, my desktop, blow up a poster sized one for the house, I'll sell 8x10s, keep one in my wallet, and may even get a locket to wear with one ... ok, so that's a lil over the top, but you get my point
headsortails wrote:Where's that Picture of Fry with the shut up and take my money?....
Though, I'm passing on the Prime. I'm getting the cassettes . Those guys and Soundwave?!? It's gonna be legen, wait for it................
DARY!
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426851)
Posted by XDMan on October 4th, 2012 @ 4:54pm CDT
Posted by XDMan on October 4th, 2012 @ 4:54pm CDT
They're all looking nice! And a show accurate Devastator? Awesome! But I, too thought that he was going to be in G2, since this is what he looked like:
But since he wasn't redecoed there in Japan, they would make some G2 Encore reissues. And I hope Hasbro reissues the G1/G2 toys here (no safety reasons, please). Otherwise, like what I said on the price rise page, I'm going to Volo Auto Museum.
But since he wasn't redecoed there in Japan, they would make some G2 Encore reissues. And I hope Hasbro reissues the G1/G2 toys here (no safety reasons, please). Otherwise, like what I said on the price rise page, I'm going to Volo Auto Museum.
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426875)
Posted by Stormrider on October 4th, 2012 @ 5:58pm CDT
People keep saying that Ratbat is going to be released. I am confused. Does Takara really have a MP Ratbat mold? I have never seen the mold or picture. And I don't remember ever reading that Takara was planning on releasing the figure. But maybe I missed something? If so - someone please post a picture or article b/c I don't think Ratbat is destined in the near future.
I do remember reading that Takara hoped to make the original Season 1 characters as MPs. But Ratbat is not on that list.
Is the MP Ravage mold different than the mold that was released with Classics Hound?
What's the difference between Black Convoy with a Decepticon symbol and Scourge?
Posted by Stormrider on October 4th, 2012 @ 5:58pm CDT
Squawk'n'talk wrote:All kinds of wonderful. I foresee a snag though - does this mean Ratbat will come with the Soundblaster repaint? ouch.
People keep saying that Ratbat is going to be released. I am confused. Does Takara really have a MP Ratbat mold? I have never seen the mold or picture. And I don't remember ever reading that Takara was planning on releasing the figure. But maybe I missed something? If so - someone please post a picture or article b/c I don't think Ratbat is destined in the near future.
I do remember reading that Takara hoped to make the original Season 1 characters as MPs. But Ratbat is not on that list.
Is the MP Ravage mold different than the mold that was released with Classics Hound?
What's the difference between Black Convoy with a Decepticon symbol and Scourge?
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426890)
Posted by REMINATOR on October 4th, 2012 @ 6:28pm CDT
Posted by REMINATOR on October 4th, 2012 @ 6:28pm CDT
TTomy is killing my wallet for MP12, MP13, MP15, MP16, Encore Devastator and FMax. They're all shall be mine
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426892)
Posted by KNM2012 on October 4th, 2012 @ 6:29pm CDT
Heh. I am thinking of doing the same when I have my "Encore" Fortress Maximus graded by AFA and the photos are submitted to me. Then again, I was also thinking of renting a billboard and have the world see what I have. That, or just have my collection be seen on an electronic photo album.
Posted by KNM2012 on October 4th, 2012 @ 6:29pm CDT
Bubbah wrote:KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:RiddlerJ wrote:I was on the fence about Soundwave, but now seeing him along with those cassettes, those beautiful cassettes...
My wallet weeps
I feel for ya as wallet weeps as well, and is on suicide watch as I have just preordered Fortress Maximus.
But yeah... When you get them and choose to display them outside the boxes, please send me a pic.
Oh don't worry, I have every intention on sharing! The group shot will be the wallpaper to my phone, my desktop, blow up a poster sized one for the house, I'll sell 8x10s, keep one in my wallet, and may even get a locket to wear with one ... ok, so that's a lil over the top, but you get my pointheadsortails wrote:Where's that Picture of Fry with the shut up and take my money?....
Though, I'm passing on the Prime. I'm getting the cassettes . Those guys and Soundwave?!? It's gonna be legen, wait for it................
DARY!
Heh. I am thinking of doing the same when I have my "Encore" Fortress Maximus graded by AFA and the photos are submitted to me. Then again, I was also thinking of renting a billboard and have the world see what I have. That, or just have my collection be seen on an electronic photo album.
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426894)
Posted by craggy on October 4th, 2012 @ 6:30pm CDT
panache.
actually, Scourge was the G2 Prime mold. It's relatively distinct as Primes go, and he had a big sword. This guy has neither. Also, they don't seem to like using the name Scourge for this character since there's the G1 guy with the fu manchu.
Posted by craggy on October 4th, 2012 @ 6:30pm CDT
Stormrider wrote:
What's the difference between Black Convoy with a Decepticon symbol and Scourge?
panache.
actually, Scourge was the G2 Prime mold. It's relatively distinct as Primes go, and he had a big sword. This guy has neither. Also, they don't seem to like using the name Scourge for this character since there's the G1 guy with the fu manchu.
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426899)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on October 4th, 2012 @ 7:02pm CDT
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on October 4th, 2012 @ 7:02pm CDT
Well, skipping the Prime repaint and the Devastator, but the rest? Come to Striker!
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426901)
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on October 4th, 2012 @ 7:18pm CDT
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on October 4th, 2012 @ 7:18pm CDT
I was kinda hoping MP-16 would pair Frenzy with Ratbat. Don't care too much about Buzzsaw.
Either ways, it's MP-15 and MP-16 for me.
Either ways, it's MP-15 and MP-16 for me.
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1426905)
Posted by xyl360 on October 4th, 2012 @ 7:30pm CDT
Agreed. Ratbat is by far my fav of all the cassetticons. I sure hope they make an MP Ratbat.
Posted by xyl360 on October 4th, 2012 @ 7:30pm CDT
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:I was kinda hoping MP-16 would pair Frenzy with Ratbat. Don't care too much about Buzzsaw.
Either ways, it's MP-15 and MP-16 for me.
Agreed. Ratbat is by far my fav of all the cassetticons. I sure hope they make an MP Ratbat.
Re: New Images: MP-10B Black Convoy, MP-15 Rumble / Ravage, MP-16 Frenzy / Buzzsaw, Encore #20A, Encore #23 Fortress Maximus (1427001)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 4th, 2012 @ 11:58pm CDT
But what makes Scourge stand out a lot is that, unlike most Nemesis Primes to come later, while Scourge is a black Optimsu Prime redeco, he was not a black redeco of the same mold as his toyline's Optimus Prime. He used a different Optimus mold, which was then redecoed in in black, gray, and teal.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 4th, 2012 @ 11:58pm CDT
Scourge is a unique individual who popularized the concept of Nemesis Prime.Stormrider wrote:What's the difference between Black Convoy with a Decepticon symbol and Scourge?
But what makes Scourge stand out a lot is that, unlike most Nemesis Primes to come later, while Scourge is a black Optimsu Prime redeco, he was not a black redeco of the same mold as his toyline's Optimus Prime. He used a different Optimus mold, which was then redecoed in in black, gray, and teal.
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Posted by DevastaTTor on October 5th, 2012 @ 7:10am CDT
Posted by DevastaTTor on October 5th, 2012 @ 7:10am CDT
I'm sure I missed this somewhere but what happens to Rumble's pile drivers when not in use/in alt mode?
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Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 5th, 2012 @ 7:46am CDT
If you look closely, the piledrivers are accessories he can stick his arms into in robot mode. You can have him with or without piledrivers in robot mode. Otherwise, you just have them separate, like you would most of the weapons of other figures when in non-robot mode.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 5th, 2012 @ 7:46am CDT
DevastaTTor wrote:I'm sure I missed this somewhere but what happens to Rumble's pile drivers when not in use/in alt mode?
If you look closely, the piledrivers are accessories he can stick his arms into in robot mode. You can have him with or without piledrivers in robot mode. Otherwise, you just have them separate, like you would most of the weapons of other figures when in non-robot mode.
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Posted by DevastaTTor on October 5th, 2012 @ 12:10pm CDT
That's kind of a letdown. That being said, they're still great!
Posted by DevastaTTor on October 5th, 2012 @ 12:10pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:DevastaTTor wrote:I'm sure I missed this somewhere but what happens to Rumble's pile drivers when not in use/in alt mode?
If you look closely, the piledrivers are accessories he can stick his arms into in robot mode. You can have him with or without piledrivers in robot mode. Otherwise, you just have them separate, like you would most of the weapons of other figures when in non-robot mode.
That's kind of a letdown. That being said, they're still great!
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Posted by kirbenvost on October 5th, 2012 @ 1:41pm CDT
It's already been explained by a couple people but I think story-wise, Black Convoy (the Decepticon) in the original Japanese storyline was a straight up evil clone of Convoy, whereas Scourge was technically a new character who just happened to take on the form of Optimus Prime/Fire Convoy when scanning an alt mode and only appeared in RiD/Car Robots. Autobot Black Convoy is a whole different story, he's an upgrade of original Convoy, I think, or an omnipotent dimensional-traveler, if you pay attention to that Alternity silliness.
Posted by kirbenvost on October 5th, 2012 @ 1:41pm CDT
Stormrider wrote:What's the difference between Black Convoy with a Decepticon symbol and Scourge?
It's already been explained by a couple people but I think story-wise, Black Convoy (the Decepticon) in the original Japanese storyline was a straight up evil clone of Convoy, whereas Scourge was technically a new character who just happened to take on the form of Optimus Prime/Fire Convoy when scanning an alt mode and only appeared in RiD/Car Robots. Autobot Black Convoy is a whole different story, he's an upgrade of original Convoy, I think, or an omnipotent dimensional-traveler, if you pay attention to that Alternity silliness.
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Posted by Sabrblade on October 5th, 2012 @ 1:49pm CDT
Usually, when a Black Convoy is an Autobot, it's either Otpimus himself in a special coating/upgrade, a duplicate of Optimus of Autobot creation, or in Alternity's case a formerly evil "Nemesis Prime" character after having gained redemption.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 5th, 2012 @ 1:49pm CDT
Oy.kirbenvost wrote:Stormrider wrote:What's the difference between Black Convoy with a Decepticon symbol and Scourge?
It's already been explained by a couple people but I think story-wise, Black Convoy (the Decepticon) in the original Japanese storyline was a straight up evil clone of Convoy, whereas Scourge was technically a new character who just happened to take on the form of Optimus Prime/Fire Convoy when scanning an alt mode and only appeared in RiD/Car Robots. Autobot Black Convoy is a whole different story, he's an upgrade of original Convoy, I think, or an omnipotent dimensional-traveler, if you pay attention to that Alternity silliness.
Usually, when a Black Convoy is an Autobot, it's either Otpimus himself in a special coating/upgrade, a duplicate of Optimus of Autobot creation, or in Alternity's case a formerly evil "Nemesis Prime" character after having gained redemption.
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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 5th, 2012 @ 2:18pm CDT
Not good anymore: United Black Optimus Prime is G1 Prime undercover, including the
on his shoulders.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 5th, 2012 @ 2:18pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Oy.kirbenvost wrote:Stormrider wrote:What's the difference between Black Convoy with a Decepticon symbol and Scourge?
It's already been explained by a couple people but I think story-wise, Black Convoy (the Decepticon) in the original Japanese storyline was a straight up evil clone of Convoy, whereas Scourge was technically a new character who just happened to take on the form of Optimus Prime/Fire Convoy when scanning an alt mode and only appeared in RiD/Car Robots. Autobot Black Convoy is a whole different story, he's an upgrade of original Convoy, I think, or an omnipotent dimensional-traveler, if you pay attention to that Alternity silliness.
Usually, when a Black Convoy is an Autobot, it's either Otpimus himself in a special coating/upgrade, a duplicate of Optimus of Autobot creation, or in Alternity's case a formerly evil "Nemesis Prime" character after having gained redemption.
Not good anymore: United Black Optimus Prime is G1 Prime undercover, including the
on his shoulders.
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Posted by Sabrblade on October 5th, 2012 @ 2:37pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 5th, 2012 @ 2:37pm CDT
What do you mean? I specifically said "when a Black Convoy is an Autobot". If it's a Decepticon, then it's a Decepticon.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Not good anymore: United Black Optimus Prime is G1 Prime undercover, including the
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Posted by Diem on October 5th, 2012 @ 4:04pm CDT
Posted by Diem on October 5th, 2012 @ 4:04pm CDT
Another Masterpiece Prime repaint that isn't Pepsi Convoy? HasTak, you keep breaking my heart.
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Posted by Sabrblade on October 5th, 2012 @ 4:10pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 5th, 2012 @ 4:10pm CDT
Diem wrote:Another Masterpiece Prime repaint that isn't Pepsi Convoy? HasTak, you keep breaking my heart.
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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 5th, 2012 @ 4:15pm CDT
What if it's an Autobot posing as a Decepticon? Punch must be nearby...
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 5th, 2012 @ 4:15pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:What do you mean? I specifically said "when a Black Convoy is an Autobot". If it's a Decepticon, then it's a Decepticon.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Not good anymore: United Black Optimus Prime is G1 Prime undercover, including the
What if it's an Autobot posing as a Decepticon? Punch must be nearby...
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Posted by Diem on October 5th, 2012 @ 4:18pm CDT
Well I seriously, legitimately would buy a Mastepiece Pepsi Convoy, but only because of my love of non-serious things. But I don't seriously expect them to make it.
Posted by Diem on October 5th, 2012 @ 4:18pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Diem wrote:Another Masterpiece Prime repaint that isn't Pepsi Convoy? HasTak, you keep breaking my heart.
Well I seriously, legitimately would buy a Mastepiece Pepsi Convoy, but only because of my love of non-serious things. But I don't seriously expect them to make it.
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Posted by Sabrblade on October 5th, 2012 @ 4:46pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 5th, 2012 @ 4:46pm CDT
Ah, sorry, I misread your post. Rereading it again, I got an entirely different message this time that now makes my image response look very weird.Diem wrote:Well I seriously, legitimately would buy a Mastepiece Pepsi Convoy, but only because of my love of non-serious things. But I don't seriously expect them to make it.
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Posted by Stormrider on October 5th, 2012 @ 7:40pm CDT
So which one will this MP Convoy be?
Posted by Stormrider on October 5th, 2012 @ 7:40pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Oy.kirbenvost wrote:Stormrider wrote:What's the difference between Black Convoy with a Decepticon symbol and Scourge?
It's already been explained by a couple people but I think story-wise, Black Convoy (the Decepticon) in the original Japanese storyline was a straight up evil clone of Convoy, whereas Scourge was technically a new character who just happened to take on the form of Optimus Prime/Fire Convoy when scanning an alt mode and only appeared in RiD/Car Robots. Autobot Black Convoy is a whole different story, he's an upgrade of original Convoy, I think, or an omnipotent dimensional-traveler, if you pay attention to that Alternity silliness.
Usually, when a Black Convoy is an Autobot, it's either Otpimus himself in a special coating/upgrade, a duplicate of Optimus of Autobot creation, or in Alternity's case a formerly evil "Nemesis Prime" character after having gained redemption.
Not good anymore: United Black Optimus Prime is G1 Prime undercover, including the
So which one will this MP Convoy be?
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Posted by Stormrider on October 5th, 2012 @ 7:40pm CDT
The pile drivers can be used as bar stools.
Posted by Stormrider on October 5th, 2012 @ 7:40pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:DevastaTTor wrote:I'm sure I missed this somewhere but what happens to Rumble's pile drivers when not in use/in alt mode?
If you look closely, the piledrivers are accessories he can stick his arms into in robot mode. You can have him with or without piledrivers in robot mode. Otherwise, you just have them separate, like you would most of the weapons of other figures when in non-robot mode.
The pile drivers can be used as bar stools.
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Posted by Sabrblade on October 5th, 2012 @ 8:00pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 5th, 2012 @ 8:00pm CDT
Dunno. We'll have to wait till the toy's bio comes.Stormrider wrote:So which one will this MP Convoy be?
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Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 5th, 2012 @ 10:22pm CDT
Nice, I just got an image of a hammered Rumble.
I wonder if the piledrivers will be functional or just solid props. I don't mean if they will actually cause tiny earthquakes, but can they be moved, like springloaded weapons.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 5th, 2012 @ 10:22pm CDT
Stormrider wrote:The pile drivers can be used as bar stools.
Nice, I just got an image of a hammered Rumble.
I wonder if the piledrivers will be functional or just solid props. I don't mean if they will actually cause tiny earthquakes, but can they be moved, like springloaded weapons.
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Posted by Bruticus1983 on October 6th, 2012 @ 4:30am CDT
Posted by Bruticus1983 on October 6th, 2012 @ 4:30am CDT
I cannot wait for my soundwave. I just preordered all of these on TFSource and am waiting. Frenzy, buzzsaw, ravage, and rumble look outstanding i hope for a ratbat and autoscout. Long Live !
!
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Posted by zappatton2 on October 14th, 2012 @ 8:52am CDT
Posted by zappatton2 on October 14th, 2012 @ 8:52am CDT
Well, of course I pre-ordered the cassettes ASAP because new MP figures trigger a Pavlovian response from me. But, after much fence-sitting, I've also order Fort Max, very very much against my financial self-interest. Lately I've been collecting teams of G1 micromasters, mainly because they can be found on the cheap (also I like the mystique of characters without firmly established G1 cannon), and coupled with Fort Max, they could really give him the city-scale he deserves. Maybe I should start collecting WST too? This is how things get out of hand.
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