New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review
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With the acclaimed Studio Series line marching onward triumphantly into 2019, we have just received a new review of the line’s latest offering, Battle-Damaged Megatron, which most of us know emulates Megatron’s appearance following the climactic final showdown between him, Optimus Prime and the Fallen in the second film. The review comes courtesy of YouTuber PrimeVs.Prime, who has thus far extensively catalogued the line beyond today’s subject. He goes into detail regarding the detailing of the figure, and gives a side-by-side comparison between the new edition and it's predecessor.
Primevs.Prime’s Review:
What do you think of this new Megatron? Are the alterations enough to justify a second purchase of the same mold, or are you skipping out on both versions entirely? Share your thoughts in the Energon Pub below, and stay tuned for further Transformers News and Reviews here on Seibertron!
Primevs.Prime’s Review:
What do you think of this new Megatron? Are the alterations enough to justify a second purchase of the same mold, or are you skipping out on both versions entirely? Share your thoughts in the Energon Pub below, and stay tuned for further Transformers News and Reviews here on Seibertron!
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Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002417)
Posted by Acolyte on January 4th, 2019 @ 1:07am CST
Posted by Acolyte on January 4th, 2019 @ 1:07am CST
Sigh... this smacks of what they did to Bumblebee last year:
1. Camaro Bumblebee
2. VW Beetle Bumblebee
3. Retro Rock Garage Vol. 1
4. Retro Rock Garage Vol. 2
5. Charlie's Garage (extra parts and a Charlie)
6. Clunker Bumblebee
Six, SIX repaints... and 2 molds. Two greatly flawed molds, I might add. Megatron is no different. A greatly flawed mold (if still a definitive look for the figure) that we really don't need a repaint of. This should have been the original color scheme, with the face intact given that this damaged condition lasts for all of maybe 20 seconds of screen time out of the entire cinematic universe (somewhere somebody said, "We're not going to call the DotM Megatron our 'battle damage' Megatron?"). I mean WWII bee was more established!
He's an ugly dude, I'll give him that. Absolutely nothing is attracting me to double dip on this mold though. What a mess. Should've thrown in another "minicon" for good measure, like the "Kill zee little one!" dude or something.
1. Camaro Bumblebee
2. VW Beetle Bumblebee
3. Retro Rock Garage Vol. 1
4. Retro Rock Garage Vol. 2
5. Charlie's Garage (extra parts and a Charlie)
6. Clunker Bumblebee
Six, SIX repaints... and 2 molds. Two greatly flawed molds, I might add. Megatron is no different. A greatly flawed mold (if still a definitive look for the figure) that we really don't need a repaint of. This should have been the original color scheme, with the face intact given that this damaged condition lasts for all of maybe 20 seconds of screen time out of the entire cinematic universe (somewhere somebody said, "We're not going to call the DotM Megatron our 'battle damage' Megatron?"). I mean WWII bee was more established!
He's an ugly dude, I'll give him that. Absolutely nothing is attracting me to double dip on this mold though. What a mess. Should've thrown in another "minicon" for good measure, like the "Kill zee little one!" dude or something.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002419)
Posted by Actar on January 4th, 2019 @ 1:41am CST
Posted by Actar on January 4th, 2019 @ 1:41am CST
Alrighty! Just got my hands on the latest SS Voyagers and Leaders. However, the one that has won me over the most is Jetfire.
So, I was rather hesitant and critical about Jetfire when I first saw him, but after having him in hand for a day, I'm absolutely convinced. Jetfire is everything I wanted in the original Leader (albeit in a smaller package). Overall, he's much easier to transform than the previous Leader and everything but those two central panels that tab into the shoulders and engines hold together solidly. I'd even argue that the kibble is much better on this one.
While the fit and finish are subpar as per other figures in the Studio Series line, the bot mode is excellent. The transformation is really fun, smooth and impressive. I love how the jet mode folds in on itself multiple times to create the bulk of the body and I adore the fact that the thighs are actually formed from the jet mode engines unlike the previous Leader (they even sit accurately within the nacelle!). I'm still not that big of a fan of the faux cockpit head, but after knowing that Jetfire accurately parts-forms to combine with Optimus, it softens the blow somewhat.
Speaking of which, yes! Jetfire does indeed combine with SS Voyager Prime!
...and it's amazing. Thank heavens they decided to go with parts-forming. Not only is it accurate to the movie, the combination gimmick does not take away from either figure much at all. The locks that secure Jetfire's limbs together when he's his own figure are brilliant. It's a clip system that holds all the parts together in bot/jet mode solidly but is still easy enough to disconnect for parts-forming when needed. In Jet Power Prime mode, everything is just as solid, though I'm slightly worried that Prime's leg joints (hip and knees) will not hold up over time as they aren't ratcheted. As for now, they're rock solid and almost too tight for when posing him alone. While the articulation in combined mode is mostly unhindered, it kinda sucks that the ankle tilts are opposite as Jetfire's legs are reversed for the combination.
Note that the instructions are utter garbage. Not only does it not tell you how to transform the cannon at all, but you can tweak the figure a little to get it looking much, much better. For instance, the bar behind Prime's head can be angled back. This not only tidies up the silhouette, but it also holds the rear wings/fins in place. Speaking of those fins, as can be seen from the above pictures, they can also be splayed open for a far more dynamic and movie-accurate look. It's a pretty nice touch that Prime's back kibble form secondary fins.
For the cannon, there is indeed a proper way to transform it. Upon close examination, the arms and flaps both have places to peg into.
All in all, thus far, Jetfire is my undisputed favorite Studio Series figure. So poseable, so much more accurate than the previous Leader figure and so full of character! All that on top of a much-improved combining gimmick! Now I only wished that they had put more effort into the Voyager Prime. I still don't get the necessity for the inaccurate leg transformation and the faux chest. In addition to being inaccurate, in my opinion, it's needlessly complex and fiddly for a Movie Prime and is as light as a feather. If you ask me, I'd only buy Prime solely to maximize Jetfire's playability. That's how great Jetfire is.
So, I was rather hesitant and critical about Jetfire when I first saw him, but after having him in hand for a day, I'm absolutely convinced. Jetfire is everything I wanted in the original Leader (albeit in a smaller package). Overall, he's much easier to transform than the previous Leader and everything but those two central panels that tab into the shoulders and engines hold together solidly. I'd even argue that the kibble is much better on this one.
While the fit and finish are subpar as per other figures in the Studio Series line, the bot mode is excellent. The transformation is really fun, smooth and impressive. I love how the jet mode folds in on itself multiple times to create the bulk of the body and I adore the fact that the thighs are actually formed from the jet mode engines unlike the previous Leader (they even sit accurately within the nacelle!). I'm still not that big of a fan of the faux cockpit head, but after knowing that Jetfire accurately parts-forms to combine with Optimus, it softens the blow somewhat.
Speaking of which, yes! Jetfire does indeed combine with SS Voyager Prime!
...and it's amazing. Thank heavens they decided to go with parts-forming. Not only is it accurate to the movie, the combination gimmick does not take away from either figure much at all. The locks that secure Jetfire's limbs together when he's his own figure are brilliant. It's a clip system that holds all the parts together in bot/jet mode solidly but is still easy enough to disconnect for parts-forming when needed. In Jet Power Prime mode, everything is just as solid, though I'm slightly worried that Prime's leg joints (hip and knees) will not hold up over time as they aren't ratcheted. As for now, they're rock solid and almost too tight for when posing him alone. While the articulation in combined mode is mostly unhindered, it kinda sucks that the ankle tilts are opposite as Jetfire's legs are reversed for the combination.
Note that the instructions are utter garbage. Not only does it not tell you how to transform the cannon at all, but you can tweak the figure a little to get it looking much, much better. For instance, the bar behind Prime's head can be angled back. This not only tidies up the silhouette, but it also holds the rear wings/fins in place. Speaking of those fins, as can be seen from the above pictures, they can also be splayed open for a far more dynamic and movie-accurate look. It's a pretty nice touch that Prime's back kibble form secondary fins.
For the cannon, there is indeed a proper way to transform it. Upon close examination, the arms and flaps both have places to peg into.
All in all, thus far, Jetfire is my undisputed favorite Studio Series figure. So poseable, so much more accurate than the previous Leader figure and so full of character! All that on top of a much-improved combining gimmick! Now I only wished that they had put more effort into the Voyager Prime. I still don't get the necessity for the inaccurate leg transformation and the faux chest. In addition to being inaccurate, in my opinion, it's needlessly complex and fiddly for a Movie Prime and is as light as a feather. If you ask me, I'd only buy Prime solely to maximize Jetfire's playability. That's how great Jetfire is.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002433)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 4th, 2019 @ 4:28am CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 4th, 2019 @ 4:28am CST
Very nice review! Love the pictures! 
Initially I was going to pass on this figure, as I'm in the minority of those who like the original leader. But since I already have SS Prime, I might as well get Jetfire, if only for the combination.
Initially I was going to pass on this figure, as I'm in the minority of those who like the original leader. But since I already have SS Prime, I might as well get Jetfire, if only for the combination.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002434)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 4th, 2019 @ 4:29am CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 4th, 2019 @ 4:29am CST
Very detailed review! You should news it.
This may make me want to have that new Optimus and Jetfire even if I already have the Takara DOTM Buster 2 pack.
This may make me want to have that new Optimus and Jetfire even if I already have the Takara DOTM Buster 2 pack.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002444)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 4th, 2019 @ 5:03am CST
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 4th, 2019 @ 5:03am CST
Partsforming or no, that combination isn't any more accurate than the combined ROTF Leaders. It's just inaccurate in different ways. Having a Jetfire that also transforms into accurate Jetpower armor is [b]impossible[b]. Getting anywhere even close would require such an extreme degree of partsforming that Jetfire would practically be a Lego set.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002448)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 4th, 2019 @ 5:38am CST
ANY Movie Transformers cannot and will never be 100% screen accurate. The only ones are the non-transforming 1000$ articulated "statues" from 3A and the like.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 4th, 2019 @ 5:38am CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Partsforming or no, that combination isn't any more accurate than the combined ROTF Leaders. It's just inaccurate in different ways. Having a Jetfire that also transforms into accurate Jetpower armor is [b]impossible[b]. Getting anywhere even close would require such an extreme degree of partsforming that Jetfire would practically be a Lego set.
ANY Movie Transformers cannot and will never be 100% screen accurate. The only ones are the non-transforming 1000$ articulated "statues" from 3A and the like.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002451)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 4th, 2019 @ 5:55am CST
This is a great review! Thank you for taking the time to do it
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 4th, 2019 @ 5:55am CST
Actar wrote:Alrighty! Just got my hands on the latest SS Voyagers and Leaders. However, the one that has won me over the most is Jetfire.
So, I was rather hesitant and critical about Jetfire when I first saw him, but after having him in hand for a day, I'm absolutely convinced. Jetfire is everything I wanted in the original Leader (albeit in a smaller package). Overall, he's much easier to transform than the previous Leader and everything but those two central panels that tab into the shoulders and engines hold together solidly. I'd even argue that the kibble is much better on this one.
While the fit and finish are subpar as per other figures in the Studio Series line, the bot mode is excellent. The transformation is really fun, smooth and impressive. I love how the jet mode folds in on itself multiple times to create the bulk of the body and I adore the fact that the thighs are actually formed from the jet mode engines unlike the previous Leader (they even sit accurately within the nacelle!). I'm still not that big of a fan of the faux cockpit head, but after knowing that Jetfire accurately parts-forms to combine with Optimus, it softens the blow somewhat.
Speaking of which, yes! Jetfire does indeed combine with SS Voyager Prime!
...and it's amazing. Thank heavens they decided to go with parts-forming. Not only is it accurate to the movie, the combination gimmick does not take away from either figure much at all. The locks that secure Jetfire's limbs together when he's his own figure are brilliant. It's a clip system that holds all the parts together in bot/jet mode solidly but is still easy enough to disconnect for parts-forming when needed. In Jet Power Prime mode, everything is just as solid, though I'm slightly worried that Prime's leg joints (hip and knees) will not hold up over time as they aren't ratcheted. As for now, they're rock solid and almost too tight for when posing him alone. While the articulation in combined mode is mostly unhindered, it kinda sucks that the ankle tilts are opposite as Jetfire's legs are reversed for the combination.
Note that the instructions are utter garbage. Not only does it not tell you how to transform the cannon at all, but you can tweak the figure a little to get it looking much, much better. For instance, the bar behind Prime's head can be angled back. This not only tidies up the silhouette, but it also holds the rear wings/fins in place. Speaking of those fins, as can be seen from the above pictures, they can also be splayed open for a far more dynamic and movie-accurate look. It's a pretty nice touch that Prime's back kibble form secondary fins.
For the cannon, there is indeed a proper way to transform it. Upon close examination, the arms and flaps both have places to peg into.
All in all, thus far, Jetfire is my undisputed favorite Studio Series figure. So poseable, so much more accurate than the previous Leader figure and so full of character! All that on top of a much-improved combining gimmick! Now I only wished that they had put more effort into the Voyager Prime. I still don't get the necessity for the inaccurate leg transformation and the faux chest. In addition to being inaccurate, in my opinion, it's needlessly complex and fiddly for a Movie Prime and is as light as a feather. If you ask me, I'd only buy Prime solely to maximize Jetfire's playability. That's how great Jetfire is. (^o^)
This is a great review! Thank you for taking the time to do it
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002452)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 4th, 2019 @ 6:26am CST
Just so you know, he only combines with the upcoming ss prime as far as I know
Posted by Hellscream9999 on January 4th, 2019 @ 6:26am CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:Very nice review! Love the pictures!
Initially I was going to pass on this figure, as I'm in the minority of those who like the original leader. But since I already have SS Prime, I might as well get Jetfire, if only for the combination.
Just so you know, he only combines with the upcoming ss prime as far as I know
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002462)
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on January 4th, 2019 @ 9:08am CST
I'm not sure if the new voyager comes with the wrists swords though.... so like Starscream… you need both
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on January 4th, 2019 @ 9:08am CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Very nice review! Love the pictures!
Initially I was going to pass on this figure, as I'm in the minority of those who like the original leader. But since I already have SS Prime, I might as well get Jetfire, if only for the combination.
Just so you know, he only combines with the upcoming ss prime as far as I know
I'm not sure if the new voyager comes with the wrists swords though.... so like Starscream… you need both
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002466)
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on January 4th, 2019 @ 9:16am CST
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on January 4th, 2019 @ 9:16am CST
(I know its old news but for the sake of discussion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO7Te_myti8) Man... so much part swapping and repainting wants between the two of them....To a certain degree, and Megatron and Starscream re-enforced this.... can't they "get it right" the *first* time for a "definitive" figure. I feel like if Hasbro and Takara weren't doing the same run.... Takara would be touching up/full accessorizing their releases.... But it's a brave new world.
With all the Siege goodness and the new Diaclone rabbit hole i've fallen it (send help!) I try to stay away from studio series... but the Bumblee movie was soo good I kinda want Shatter and Dropkick (car versions) and I'm really curious about that Devastator.
With all the Siege goodness and the new Diaclone rabbit hole i've fallen it (send help!) I try to stay away from studio series... but the Bumblee movie was soo good I kinda want Shatter and Dropkick (car versions) and I'm really curious about that Devastator.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002468)
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on January 4th, 2019 @ 9:18am CST
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on January 4th, 2019 @ 9:18am CST
I still think Jetfire's face is TOO big... but I guess he's also practically doubled over. Does it "scale" or at least make sense if you were to "stand" him up?
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002470)
Posted by william-james88 on January 4th, 2019 @ 9:37am CST
You got the new 2019 ss prime? How?
Posted by william-james88 on January 4th, 2019 @ 9:37am CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:Very nice review! Love the pictures!
Initially I was going to pass on this figure, as I'm in the minority of those who like the original leader. But since I already have SS Prime, I might as well get Jetfire, if only for the combination.
You got the new 2019 ss prime? How?
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002481)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 4th, 2019 @ 10:50am CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 4th, 2019 @ 10:50am CST
No, I didn't. I mixed up the new Prime with the one that already came out.william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Very nice review! Love the pictures!
Initially I was going to pass on this figure, as I'm in the minority of those who like the original leader. But since I already have SS Prime, I might as well get Jetfire, if only for the combination.
You got the new 2019 ss prime? How?
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002482)
Posted by o.supreme on January 4th, 2019 @ 11:05am CST
So..Just to confirm (because I'm not familiar enough with some of these toys to recognize them on their own)...
Are these pics showing Jetfire combined with the previous SS-05 Optimus Prime?, Or is this the new SS-32 (Movie 1) Optimus?
That would be awesome if they made it so Jetfire could work with both.
Posted by o.supreme on January 4th, 2019 @ 11:05am CST
Actar wrote:Alrighty! Just got my hands on the latest SS Voyagers and Leaders. However, the one that has won me over the most is Jetfire....
Speaking of which, yes! Jetfire does indeed combine with SS Voyager Prime!
So..Just to confirm (because I'm not familiar enough with some of these toys to recognize them on their own)...
Are these pics showing Jetfire combined with the previous SS-05 Optimus Prime?, Or is this the new SS-32 (Movie 1) Optimus?
That would be awesome if they made it so Jetfire could work with both.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002485)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 4th, 2019 @ 11:09am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 4th, 2019 @ 11:09am CST
That's the newer Optimus. Bright red and correct-looking chest. The older one had dark red and an inaccurate-looking chest.o.supreme wrote:Actar wrote:Alrighty! Just got my hands on the latest SS Voyagers and Leaders. However, the one that has won me over the most is Jetfire....
Speaking of which, yes! Jetfire does indeed combine with SS Voyager Prime!
So..Just to confirm (because I'm not familiar enough with some of these toys to recognize them on their own)...
Are these pics showing Jetfire combined with the previous SS-05 Optimus Prime?, Or is this the new SS-32 (Movie 1) Optimus?
That would be awesome if they made it so Jetfire could work with both.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002486)
Posted by Overcracker on January 4th, 2019 @ 11:12am CST
It's the new SS-32 Prime. The old SS-05 Prime has a completely different torso, and lacks the ports and tabs required for combination as far as I know.
SS-32 left, SS-05 Right
Posted by Overcracker on January 4th, 2019 @ 11:12am CST
o.supreme wrote:Actar wrote:Alrighty! Just got my hands on the latest SS Voyagers and Leaders. However, the one that has won me over the most is Jetfire....
Speaking of which, yes! Jetfire does indeed combine with SS Voyager Prime!
So..Just to confirm (because I'm not familiar enough with some of these toys to recognize them on their own)...
Are these pics showing Jetfire combined with the previous SS-05 Optimus Prime?, Or is this the new SS-32 (Movie 1) Optimus?
That would be awesome if they made it so Jetfire could work with both.
It's the new SS-32 Prime. The old SS-05 Prime has a completely different torso, and lacks the ports and tabs required for combination as far as I know.
SS-32 left, SS-05 Right
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002487)
Posted by o.supreme on January 4th, 2019 @ 11:14am CST
darn...thanks for the confirmation though. So, I guess there is no chance that Jetfire can combine with SS-05? I mean I know it has it's flaws, but it is from the 2nd film after all. Then again, was there really any changes in Prime between Movie 1 and Movie 2, I never thought so...they probably just slapped the movie 1 logo on the box to signify it is a different toy.
*edit* -yes I understand the toys are different, just speaking in terms of "in-movie"
Posted by o.supreme on January 4th, 2019 @ 11:14am CST
Sabrblade wrote:That's the newer Optimus. Bright red and correct-looking chest. The older one had dark red and an inaccurate-looking chest.
darn...thanks for the confirmation though. So, I guess there is no chance that Jetfire can combine with SS-05? I mean I know it has it's flaws, but it is from the 2nd film after all. Then again, was there really any changes in Prime between Movie 1 and Movie 2, I never thought so...they probably just slapped the movie 1 logo on the box to signify it is a different toy.
*edit* -yes I understand the toys are different, just speaking in terms of "in-movie"
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002504)
Posted by william-james88 on January 4th, 2019 @ 1:02pm CST
Sadly there is no chance it combines with the previous one. And in movie, there was no difference between prime's design from the first to seconds film. That means this new prime works for both and thus the previous Prime is rendered obsolete. I sold mine already since it felt absolutely worthless in my collection.
Posted by william-james88 on January 4th, 2019 @ 1:02pm CST
o.supreme wrote:Sabrblade wrote:That's the newer Optimus. Bright red and correct-looking chest. The older one had dark red and an inaccurate-looking chest.
darn...thanks for the confirmation though. So, I guess there is no chance that Jetfire can combine with SS-05? I mean I know it has it's flaws, but it is from the 2nd film after all. Then again, was there really any changes in Prime between Movie 1 and Movie 2, I never thought so...they probably just slapped the movie 1 logo on the box to signify it is a different toy.
*edit* -yes I understand the toys are different, just speaking in terms of "in-movie"
Sadly there is no chance it combines with the previous one. And in movie, there was no difference between prime's design from the first to seconds film. That means this new prime works for both and thus the previous Prime is rendered obsolete. I sold mine already since it felt absolutely worthless in my collection.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002505)
Posted by o.supreme on January 4th, 2019 @ 1:09pm CST
Perfect. That's where my mind was going , glad to know despite the packaging SS-35 can be Movie 1 or 2 Prime for all intents and purposes.
Posted by o.supreme on January 4th, 2019 @ 1:09pm CST
william-james88 wrote:And in movie, there was no difference between prime's design from the first to seconds film. That means this new prime works for both and thus the previous Prime is rendered obsolete. I sold mine already since it felt absolutely worthless in my collection.
Perfect. That's where my mind was going
, glad to know despite the packaging SS-35 can be Movie 1 or 2 Prime for all intents and purposes.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002509)
Posted by Deadput on January 4th, 2019 @ 1:48pm CST
I feel like the ROTF SS Prime is actually meant to be the DOTM version where he did have actual physical changes, mostly the abs.
First 2 movies
Dotm:
Posted by Deadput on January 4th, 2019 @ 1:48pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Sadly there is no chance it combines with the previous one. And in movie, there was no difference between prime's design from the first to seconds film. That means this new prime works for both and thus the previous Prime is rendered obsolete. I sold mine already since it felt absolutely worthless in my collection.
I feel like the ROTF SS Prime is actually meant to be the DOTM version where he did have actual physical changes, mostly the abs.
First 2 movies
Dotm:
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002512)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 4th, 2019 @ 2:13pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 4th, 2019 @ 2:13pm CST
Well we will see what the DotM leader Class version looks like
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002514)
Posted by william-james88 on January 4th, 2019 @ 2:23pm CST
ok, are you gonna get this prime and Jetfire then?
Posted by william-james88 on January 4th, 2019 @ 2:23pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:No, I didn't. I mixed up the new Prime with the one that already came out.william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Very nice review! Love the pictures!
Initially I was going to pass on this figure, as I'm in the minority of those who like the original leader. But since I already have SS Prime, I might as well get Jetfire, if only for the combination.
You got the new 2019 ss prime? How?
ok, are you gonna get this prime and Jetfire then?
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002517)
Posted by o.supreme on January 4th, 2019 @ 2:40pm CST
Wow, that's even more frustrating than DotM Megatron. There should be literally NO reason that Movie 3 Prime is a Leader Class figure, as the design had minimal if any changes. The ONLY POSSIBLE reason I could see for it to be Leader Class is if it is incorporating the Trailer, but then that presents a whole other series of issues...
This toy was marketed as "Ultimate Class", something that currently doesn't really exist, but was bigger than the current Leader Class.
Posted by o.supreme on January 4th, 2019 @ 2:40pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Well we will see what the DotM leader Class version looks like
Wow, that's even more frustrating than DotM Megatron. There should be literally NO reason that Movie 3 Prime is a Leader Class figure, as the design had minimal if any changes. The ONLY POSSIBLE reason I could see for it to be Leader Class is if it is incorporating the Trailer, but then that presents a whole other series of issues...This toy was marketed as "Ultimate Class", something that currently doesn't really exist, but was bigger than the current Leader Class.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002518)
Posted by william-james88 on January 4th, 2019 @ 2:41pm CST
I am pretty sure thats what is gonna happen, he will come with a trailer.
Posted by william-james88 on January 4th, 2019 @ 2:41pm CST
o.supreme wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Well we will see what the DotM leader Class version looks like
I am pretty sure thats what is gonna happen, he will come with a trailer.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002529)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 4th, 2019 @ 4:07pm CST
I probably won't buy the new voyager Optimus and Leader Jetfire. Most if not all the DOTM Optimuses sucked in one way or another. So if leader DOTM Optimus is a slighly modded new voyager plus a kick-ass trailer that transform into the weapon station as shown in the movie, I'll be all over it.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 4th, 2019 @ 4:07pm CST
william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Well we will see what the DotM leader Class version looks like
I am pretty sure thats what is gonna happen, he will come with a trailer.
I probably won't buy the new voyager Optimus and Leader Jetfire. Most if not all the DOTM Optimuses sucked in one way or another. So if leader DOTM Optimus is a slighly modded new voyager plus a kick-ass trailer that transform into the weapon station as shown in the movie, I'll be all over it.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002531)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 4th, 2019 @ 4:15pm CST
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 4th, 2019 @ 4:15pm CST
o. supreme, while the Ultimate Optimus set is larger than a modern Leader, there are some important things to keep in mind:
The nominally Voyager cab is larger than standard DOTM-onward Voyagers..
...And even so, the trailer is monstrously oversize for the cab (it actually sizes better with the ROTF Leader-class cab!)
On top of that, the trailer has a crapton of extra mass to it.
Size comparison.
So yes, you couldn't do a Voyager cab plus a trailer the size of the Ultimate Optimus one as a modern Leader-class figure. But you wouldn't need to because both the cab and trailer are oversize compared to modern Voyagers like SS Optimus anyway. I think there is just about room to squeeze in the Voyager Optimus cab and a proportionate trailer at the Leader size class.
The nominally Voyager cab is larger than standard DOTM-onward Voyagers..
...And even so, the trailer is monstrously oversize for the cab (it actually sizes better with the ROTF Leader-class cab!)
On top of that, the trailer has a crapton of extra mass to it.
Size comparison.
So yes, you couldn't do a Voyager cab plus a trailer the size of the Ultimate Optimus one as a modern Leader-class figure. But you wouldn't need to because both the cab and trailer are oversize compared to modern Voyagers like SS Optimus anyway. I think there is just about room to squeeze in the Voyager Optimus cab and a proportionate trailer at the Leader size class.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002541)
Posted by Skritz on January 4th, 2019 @ 4:51pm CST
Posted by Skritz on January 4th, 2019 @ 4:51pm CST
While I don't collect movie figures, I'm quite tempted to get DOTM Megatron as I (somehow) liked that design and the Leader figure seems pretty damn solid. Is he worth it as a stand alone pick up?
Also do we have any clues if The Fallen himself will receive a Studio Series figure?
Also do we have any clues if The Fallen himself will receive a Studio Series figure?
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002553)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 4th, 2019 @ 5:15pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 4th, 2019 @ 5:15pm CST
I think the partsforming on Jetfire ended up working out really well. They have gotten much better at it lately, and now it's giving us an even more accurate Jet Optimus. It may not be entirely screen accurate, but at least it's an even closer effort that can pose.
@Skirtz, that Megatron would make a good standalone. He doesn't need anyone else!
No word on a SS Fallen figure yet.
I really enjoy the DotM Ultimate Prime, but look forward to an attempt closer to screen accurate. Flight tech yes please. with Ax.
Also, I really want the new voyager Prime to be redecoed like this so I can have an update to my favorite TF ever:
@Skirtz, that Megatron would make a good standalone. He doesn't need anyone else!
No word on a SS Fallen figure yet.
I really enjoy the DotM Ultimate Prime, but look forward to an attempt closer to screen accurate. Flight tech yes please. with Ax.
Also, I really want the new voyager Prime to be redecoed like this so I can have an update to my favorite TF ever:
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002564)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 4th, 2019 @ 5:33pm CST
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 4th, 2019 @ 5:33pm CST
I wouldn't call the Studio Series Jetpower Prime more accurate. It's just as inaccurate as the ROTF Leaders' combo but in different ways. More poseable, I'll grant you. But not more accurate.
The original could probably have had the poseability granted by partsforming if it wasn't for the fact that Jetfire's hips had to support the weight of a big fat battery box that uses AA batteries. I would love to get my hands on the smeghead in Hasbro's marketing department who mandated that Leader-class figures not only have electronics but that those electronics be powered strictly by AA batteries.
The original could probably have had the poseability granted by partsforming if it wasn't for the fact that Jetfire's hips had to support the weight of a big fat battery box that uses AA batteries. I would love to get my hands on the smeghead in Hasbro's marketing department who mandated that Leader-class figures not only have electronics but that those electronics be powered strictly by AA batteries.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002565)
Posted by Deadput on January 4th, 2019 @ 5:43pm CST
Like there could ever be an accurate version of the Jetpower Prime that also transforms into Jetfire, he literally wraps around Prime in the film.
Ignoring the Jetfire parts themselves look at Thickimus Prime over here, his proportions change.
Posted by Deadput on January 4th, 2019 @ 5:43pm CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I wouldn't call the Studio Series Jetpower Prime more accurate. It's just as inaccurate as the ROTF Leaders' combo but in different ways. More poseable, I'll grant you. But not more accurate.
Like there could ever be an accurate version of the Jetpower Prime that also transforms into Jetfire, he literally wraps around Prime in the film.
Ignoring the Jetfire parts themselves look at Thickimus Prime over here, his proportions change.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002571)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 4th, 2019 @ 5:59pm CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 4th, 2019 @ 5:59pm CST
In that shot he still has parts of Jetfire on him, that's why he looks that way. The only parts he lost were the thrusters and wings.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002583)
Posted by Brokebot on January 4th, 2019 @ 6:26pm CST
Posted by Brokebot on January 4th, 2019 @ 6:26pm CST
I was going to skip this line because I have no interest in Bayformers, but I succumbed to the temptation of VW Bumblebee, and now I wish I had stuck to my guns. Just keeping it together while transforming it was the biggest challenge. Fold in the hands, they fall off. Fold down the window, it falls off. Rotate the legs, they pop off. While the detailing is pretty good, I think making this in a larger scale would have produced a better, more solid figure. Anyway, my two cents. 
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002588)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 4th, 2019 @ 6:42pm CST
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 4th, 2019 @ 6:42pm CST
Well, the next year of Studio Series figures is right around the corner, and I still have never seen Ironhide in store (or RotF Starscream). Nor have I seen the Deluxe waves beyond the one with Jazz and Lockdown more than once ever. It would be nice if they were at least available on Hasbro Toy Shop. So much for improved distribution.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002589)
Posted by Brokebot on January 4th, 2019 @ 6:48pm CST
Yeah, getting your crap on the shelves for Christmas is for chumps and losers.
Posted by Brokebot on January 4th, 2019 @ 6:48pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:Well, the next year of Studio Series figures is right around the corner, and I still have never seen Ironhide in store (or RotF Starscream). Nor have I seen the Deluxe waves beyond the one with Jazz and Lockdown more than once ever. It would be nice if they were at least available on Hasbro Toy Shop. So much for improved distribution.
Yeah, getting your crap on the shelves for Christmas is for chumps and losers.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002592)
Posted by Deadput on January 4th, 2019 @ 7:13pm CST
I know that it's due to Jetfire parts, but I was posting that screenshot to show that Jetfire combining with Prime was more then just him getting some thrusters, armor panels and new guns, he was "wrapped" around Prime and such.
So a toy of that design would only be accurate if it was either a non separable "action figure" type figure or if it was an Optimus Prime that couldn't Transform (or turn into a bad truck mode) that came with separate Jetfire pieces like that cancelled figure from a few years ago.
Posted by Deadput on January 4th, 2019 @ 7:13pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:In that shot he still has parts of Jetfire on him, that's why he looks that way. The only parts he lost were the thrusters and wings.
I know that it's due to Jetfire parts, but I was posting that screenshot to show that Jetfire combining with Prime was more then just him getting some thrusters, armor panels and new guns, he was "wrapped" around Prime and such.
So a toy of that design would only be accurate if it was either a non separable "action figure" type figure or if it was an Optimus Prime that couldn't Transform (or turn into a bad truck mode) that came with separate Jetfire pieces like that cancelled figure from a few years ago.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002594)
Posted by william-james88 on January 4th, 2019 @ 7:38pm CST
The fact that you can get the final 2018 wave voyager right now on 30% discount on Amazon indicates that distribution has improved
https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Stu?tag=seibertron07-20& ... ref=plSrch
They even have the shortpacked KSI sentry:
https://www.amazon.com/Tra-Gen-Studio-D?tag=seibertron07-20& ... ref=plSrch
This is a heck of an improvement over the distribution for the last movie line.
Posted by william-james88 on January 4th, 2019 @ 7:38pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:Well, the next year of Studio Series figures is right around the corner, and I still have never seen Ironhide in store (or RotF Starscream). Nor have I seen the Deluxe waves beyond the one with Jazz and Lockdown more than once ever. It would be nice if they were at least available on Hasbro Toy Shop. So much for improved distribution.
The fact that you can get the final 2018 wave voyager right now on 30% discount on Amazon indicates that distribution has improved
https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Stu?tag=seibertron07-20& ... ref=plSrch
They even have the shortpacked KSI sentry:
https://www.amazon.com/Tra-Gen-Studio-D?tag=seibertron07-20& ... ref=plSrch
This is a heck of an improvement over the distribution for the last movie line.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002597)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 4th, 2019 @ 7:47pm CST
An improvement, perhaps, but it's still ridiculous that I can't buy Voyager Ironhide right now for regular retail price. I can, however, walk into ANY Target and buy my pick of Wave 2 Voyager Megatrons and Brawls that have been sitting on the shelf for months for a deep discount and get some free popcorn to boot! That's messed up.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 4th, 2019 @ 7:47pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Well, the next year of Studio Series figures is right around the corner, and I still have never seen Ironhide in store (or RotF Starscream). Nor have I seen the Deluxe waves beyond the one with Jazz and Lockdown more than once ever. It would be nice if they were at least available on Hasbro Toy Shop. So much for improved distribution.
The fact that you can get the final 2018 wave voyager right now on 30% discount on Amazon indicates that distribution has improved
https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Stu?tag=seibertron07-20& ... ref=plSrch
They even have the shortpacked KSI sentry:
https://www.amazon.com/Tra-Gen-Studio-D?tag=seibertron07-20& ... ref=plSrch
This is a heck of an improvement over the distribution for the last movie line.
An improvement, perhaps, but it's still ridiculous that I can't buy Voyager Ironhide right now for regular retail price. I can, however, walk into ANY Target and buy my pick of Wave 2 Voyager Megatrons and Brawls that have been sitting on the shelf for months for a deep discount and get some free popcorn to boot! That's messed up.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002600)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 4th, 2019 @ 7:59pm CST
Make sure you check out the other voyagers with Megatron. When I found Screamer in November, I thought the Target was behind with wave 2 voyagers, until I saw screamers behind 2 megatrons.
i personally am greatly pleased with the SS distribution. I found every figure at retail in a timely fashion. I didn't find myself waiting 5 months like the Wave 2 PotP deluxes, of which I never saw Blackwing, Moonracer, or Snarl at retail
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 4th, 2019 @ 7:59pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:william-james88 wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Well, the next year of Studio Series figures is right around the corner, and I still have never seen Ironhide in store (or RotF Starscream). Nor have I seen the Deluxe waves beyond the one with Jazz and Lockdown more than once ever. It would be nice if they were at least available on Hasbro Toy Shop. So much for improved distribution.
The fact that you can get the final 2018 wave voyager right now on 30% discount on Amazon indicates that distribution has improved
https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Stu?tag=seibertron07-20& ... ref=plSrch
They even have the shortpacked KSI sentry:
https://www.amazon.com/Tra-Gen-Studio-D?tag=seibertron07-20& ... ref=plSrch
This is a heck of an improvement over the distribution for the last movie line.
An improvement, perhaps, but it's still ridiculous that I can't buy Voyager Ironhide right now for regular retail price. I can, however, walk into ANY Target and buy my pick of Wave 2 Voyager Megatrons and Brawls that have been sitting on the shelf for months for a deep discount and get some free popcorn to boot! That's messed up.
Make sure you check out the other voyagers with Megatron. When I found Screamer in November, I thought the Target was behind with wave 2 voyagers, until I saw screamers behind 2 megatrons.
i personally am greatly pleased with the SS distribution. I found every figure at retail in a timely fashion. I didn't find myself waiting 5 months like the Wave 2 PotP deluxes, of which I never saw Blackwing, Moonracer, or Snarl at retail
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002603)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 4th, 2019 @ 8:14pm CST
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 4th, 2019 @ 8:14pm CST
At the level of individual stores, distribution will always be at the mercy of shelfwarming toys.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002611)
Posted by JazztfLaw on January 4th, 2019 @ 9:49pm CST
Posted by JazztfLaw on January 4th, 2019 @ 9:49pm CST
Nice set of photo gallery, something I miss having on this site for new figures... 
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002622)
Posted by no-one on January 4th, 2019 @ 10:30pm CST
Posted by no-one on January 4th, 2019 @ 10:30pm CST
This is kind of random and a quick google and tfwiki didn't turn up any results. Has there been any rumors of a Shockwave in the Studio Series line?
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002623)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 4th, 2019 @ 10:42pm CST
No Shockwave rumors no
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 4th, 2019 @ 10:42pm CST
carytheone wrote:This is kind of random and a quick google and tfwiki didn't turn up any results. Has there been any rumors of a Shockwave in the Studio Series line?
No Shockwave rumors no
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002628)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 4th, 2019 @ 11:02pm CST
Yeah, I check every box each time, just to be sure I'm not accidentally passing up on something I'm looking for. Studio Series distribution has been very poor for Minneapolis and St. Paul, but things were better for Power of the Primes, believe it or not. I've seen every single figure from that line multiple times at brick and mortar stores, except for Novastar. I even spotted a Moonracer again just before Xmas. She was gone the next morning, though.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 4th, 2019 @ 11:02pm CST
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:william-james88 wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Well, the next year of Studio Series figures is right around the corner, and I still have never seen Ironhide in store (or RotF Starscream). Nor have I seen the Deluxe waves beyond the one with Jazz and Lockdown more than once ever. It would be nice if they were at least available on Hasbro Toy Shop. So much for improved distribution.
The fact that you can get the final 2018 wave voyager right now on 30% discount on Amazon indicates that distribution has improved
https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Stu?tag=seibertron07-20& ... ref=plSrch
They even have the shortpacked KSI sentry:
https://www.amazon.com/Tra-Gen-Studio-D?tag=seibertron07-20& ... ref=plSrch
This is a heck of an improvement over the distribution for the last movie line.
An improvement, perhaps, but it's still ridiculous that I can't buy Voyager Ironhide right now for regular retail price. I can, however, walk into ANY Target and buy my pick of Wave 2 Voyager Megatrons and Brawls that have been sitting on the shelf for months for a deep discount and get some free popcorn to boot! That's messed up.
Make sure you check out the other voyagers with Megatron. When I found Screamer in November, I thought the Target was behind with wave 2 voyagers, until I saw screamers behind 2 megatrons.
i personally am greatly pleased with the SS distribution. I found every figure at retail in a timely fashion. I didn't find myself waiting 5 months like the Wave 2 PotP deluxes, of which I never saw Blackwing, Moonracer, or Snarl at retail
Yeah, I check every box each time, just to be sure I'm not accidentally passing up on something I'm looking for. Studio Series distribution has been very poor for Minneapolis and St. Paul, but things were better for Power of the Primes, believe it or not. I've seen every single figure from that line multiple times at brick and mortar stores, except for Novastar. I even spotted a Moonracer again just before Xmas. She was gone the next morning, though.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002633)
Posted by ebo716 on January 5th, 2019 @ 12:45am CST
Posted by ebo716 on January 5th, 2019 @ 12:45am CST
We now have a picture of the back of the Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime’s alt mode as well as in comparison with evasion mode Optimus prime from AOE and MP-10
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002637)
Posted by Emerje on January 5th, 2019 @ 2:36am CST
Got a source? It might be news worthy, but we can't do anything without one.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on January 5th, 2019 @ 2:36am CST
ebo716 wrote: We now have a picture of the back of the Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime’s alt mode as well as in comparison with evasion mode Optimus prime from AOE and MP-10
Got a source? It might be news worthy, but we can't do anything without one.
Emerje
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002648)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 5th, 2019 @ 6:16am CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 5th, 2019 @ 6:16am CST
The new Optimus have the best behind of the 3. It's the most realistic and less bulky. If I see it in store, it will be an instant buy.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002649)
Posted by JoeIsNotCool on January 5th, 2019 @ 6:25am CST
Posted by JoeIsNotCool on January 5th, 2019 @ 6:25am CST
So today in the post I got the new SS Jetfire, Optimus and Bonecrusher. I noticed something I don't think anyone has picked up on yet however.
In the packaging of Jetfire, there was a fake-chest piece for Optimus. I thought maybe it was a spare for the new SS Optimus, but it is a completely different colour. More metallic red than the other one.
I may be mistaken, but is this the same colour as the ROTF Optimus? I don't know if this means that Jetfire could be compatible or not, I am yet to transform either Jetfire or Optimus. I don't have the ROTF Optimus so I can't be sure myself.
In the packaging of Jetfire, there was a fake-chest piece for Optimus. I thought maybe it was a spare for the new SS Optimus, but it is a completely different colour. More metallic red than the other one.
I may be mistaken, but is this the same colour as the ROTF Optimus? I don't know if this means that Jetfire could be compatible or not, I am yet to transform either Jetfire or Optimus. I don't have the ROTF Optimus so I can't be sure myself.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002655)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 5th, 2019 @ 8:23am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 5th, 2019 @ 8:23am CST
This is the source - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUChzcoFWnmErS2U-kUOu4w/communityEmerje wrote:ebo716 wrote: We now have a picture of the back of the Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime’s alt mode as well as in comparison with evasion mode Optimus prime from AOE and MP-10
Got a source? It might be news worthy, but we can't do anything without one.
Emerje
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002669)
Posted by Overcracker on January 5th, 2019 @ 9:03am CST
Impressively clean truck mode. No Robot kibble pretty much at all there.
Posted by Overcracker on January 5th, 2019 @ 9:03am CST
ebo716 wrote: We now have a picture of the back of the Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime’s alt mode as well as in comparison with evasion mode Optimus prime from AOE and MP-10
Impressively clean truck mode. No Robot kibble pretty much at all there.
Re: New Studio Series Battle-Damaged Megatron Review (2002675)
Posted by Ironhidensh on January 5th, 2019 @ 9:13am CST
Posted by Ironhidensh on January 5th, 2019 @ 9:13am CST
I never combined the original Prime and Jetfire figures from RotF. Never looked good enough to bother. Once again, Studio Series has scored a touchdown. I'm very excited for these figures. I just hope they don't suffer from the random QC issues that crop up in the line.
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