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TimothyR wrote:

megatronus wrote:

TimothyR wrote:

shajaki wrote:

TheVenocWarlord wrote:

Shockwave7 wrote:If you like movie4 leader Optimus - buy it. More power to you.

But to me, it's a clumsy, kibble-shackled mold that bears only a passing resemblance to the lithe, flexible CGI model they used for the movie. All the action sequences I saw showed Prime with a form-fitting, almost organic humanoid physique, that had extremely pliable armor plating. This toy? Nope.

Easy pass. Evasion Prime was the only no-brainer purchase of the lot, and that, only because it was so G1-friendly. So far the movie4 assortment has been a huge letdown.

Pray tell how they could make it more movie accurate? It's going to have back kibble no matter what. Or are you the type that's G1 or nothing?

Really, most of the Movie Generations are great, as is the Generations line in general.

agreed. as many others have pointed out, matching a toy to the actual movie model is damn near impossible. the silver knight prime from the movie has ZERO kibble. he cant conceivably transform into his iconic truck mode.

great? that's laughable.

these figures are awful. they're cheap feeling, they lack paint, they lack articulation, and they're tiny. so no, they're FAR from great.

you're telling me that, had hasbro put in more effort, the shoulder kibble couldn't have folded up neater? the waist panels couldn't have folded up more neatly? the fuel tanks on his back couldn't have been hidden somewhere?

see.. i believe they could've done all of that.. but no, not with a simplistic line like this, that would add too many steps.. cause, you know, that's way too many steps for a kid.. cause.. apparently there are tons of kids out there with $47 to purchase this thing.

the whole line has been a failure.. there are two main line bad guys TWO. the on screen dinobots aren't even close to being in scale and aren't even close to being colored correctly.. as for the main autobots.. if you want those figure colored correctly, you're going to have to pay extra. it's ridiculous.

The whole line a failure? Now THAT'S laughable.

Some figures are better than others, and some are plain bad, but there are plenty of winners.

"Plenty of winners"... Really? You can't actually believe that... Who.. Who is a winner?

Deluxe drift?.. With that paint job, nah.. A robot that comes with FOUR swords yet has no wrist rotation.. That's not winning to me.. No ankle pivots.. It's 2014 and the damn figure costs $16, I expect its feet to stand flush.

Or how bout new bumblebee.. Once again the ankles aren't articulated, his "battle mask" aka his battle sun glasses are just plain bad. Hasbro still hasn't figured out the yellow paint vs yellow plastic problem. So.. Yet another figure that I wouldn't consider a winner.

Deluxe scorn.. First off DELUXE scorn is the first problem, it should've been a voyager.. It's red, which is ridiculous. It's got a tail arm, which is perfectly fine because it's accurate.. But not a single joint in the tail itself? Really? That's just crazy. This figure comes close to being a winner but there's just too much wrong with it.

Now you could say voyager hound.. Which I'm on the fence about.. I'm not a fan of his feet at all, they really make him difficult to balance. All of the weapons are really cool but the fact that his arms and wrists aren't articulated enough to get the best possible poses is a shame. which is similar to drifts problems. His color, like all of the figures is plain wrong.. And, for me at least, getting his weapons to stay tabbed in in truck mode is an absolute nightmare.. It's to the point where I don't even bother putting them on the truck.

Galvatron comes close to being a winner.. But he's got no depth.. His color is awful, all of the molded details are lost, no wrist articulation.. And again he should've been larger.

The rest of the line doesn't even come close to winning.. Not by a long shot.

I understand that not every figure is going to be perfect.. But I expect the good to outweigh the bad.. It doesn't with this line.. Now take a figure like Takara's armada starscream.. No ankle pivots, no wrist swivel, simpler transformation.. Yet it's a great figure because it has a wonderful paint job, an accurate color scheme, looks good in both modes, and everything stays secure in jet mode. That's a winner.

And don't get me wrong, I've enjoyed the movies, they're not great but they're fun.. And I've really enjoyed the toys.. But AOE doesn't have any gems in the line.. It doesn't have figures like ROTF leader prime, leader starscream, leader ironhide, human alliance jazz, human alliance soundwave, human alliance barricade, voyager bludgeon, deluxe battle blades bumblebee, and so on.. This line just doesn't have any figures where in a couple years, when the engineering declines even further, we're going to say, "man, I wish they still made figures the way they were in AOE".

Metro Prime wrote::x SO ADORABLE...Must...resist...buying...multiples!

Delta Magnus wrote:
>complaining about wrist swivels and ankle tilts on Transformers

>>>TFW2005

megatronus wrote:These are the AoE figures I consider to be my personal "winners":Voyager Evasion Mode Optimus, Voyager Galvatron, Voyager Hound, Voyager Drift, Deluxe Scorn, Deluxe Drift, Deluxe Lockdown, Deluxe Evolution Bumblebee

shajaki wrote:for those interested, in box pics from RK:

Optimus Prime has long believed that freedom is the right of all sentient beings. He has never wavered from his belief, no matter what has befallen him in battle. Once again ready to defend the people of his adopted planet, the unyielding AUTOBOT commander prepares for battle that will allow the AUTOBOTS to reclaim their role as earth's honored protectors.

Autobot032 wrote:Confirms how it's said. People were confused as to whether it was Termenos or Temenos, now we know. (I was one of those who thought Lockdown said Termenos.) The definition is interesting... Fits what Prime said about Lockdown's use of it.

Autobot032 wrote:I wish his shield didn't look so stupid, though. Ugh.

Autobot032 wrote:Part of me feels stupid for buying the same mold twice, plus nearly double the cost

Siger wrote:could care less, could care a lot less about this Backpacktimus Prime.

G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 wrote:That's exactly it,,, he does care lol.. it's funny how people get so anal hurt off of someone's opinion. I guess I hit it where it hurts.

megatronus wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:Part of me feels stupid for buying the same mold twice, plus nearly double the cost

This is my 3rd version of the mold, between the Hasbro & Takara versions I already have. Double Ugh.

But he does look awesome, and worth it, and the definitive version of the mold (much as I consider my APS Prime to be the definitive version of the ROTF Leader mold).

shajaki wrote:

megatronus wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:Part of me feels stupid for buying the same mold twice, plus nearly double the cost

This is my 3rd version of the mold, between the Hasbro & Takara versions I already have. Double Ugh.

But he does look awesome, and worth it, and the definitive version of the mold (much as I consider my APS Prime to be the definitive version of the ROTF Leader mold).

at this point, im SO happy i didnt buy takaras first leader prime. i agonized over it for a couple days but ultimately passed due to getting hasbros for half price. and there just wasnt enough of a difference between the two to pass up that price for a leader prime, or pay almost 100 bucks for takaras few extra paint apps.

G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 wrote:Is it just me, or was this not the worst release of TF toys (movie wise) ever made? What happened to transforming them and the wheels going in the right place or even kibble being in the right place (if there even WAS kibble). The AOE toys are nothing but vehicle on top and robot on the bottom.. the best movie toys were the 2007 and revenge of the fallen movie release toys,from optimus prime leader class, right down to the jetfire leader class connecting to optimus and, even iron hide all the way up to part 3 was awesome (leaders class for sure)... I'm sorry, all of the AOE toys are not cool at all

G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 wrote:The flattering is all you my friend... especially when they come from as far as left field to do so, are you trying to measure pens right now?because we won't have enough time

megatronus wrote:Had this new version not been announced, I would have been really annoyed that I let Takara's first version go. It's covered in silver paint, and the paint apps and chrome are much more strategically placed.

G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 wrote:The flattering is all you my friend... especially when they come from as far as left field to do so, are you trying to measure pens right now?because we won't have enough time

-Kanrabat- wrote:What I plan to do is to buy that new Takara Leader OP and paint the orange parts of the weapons in silver paint or something.

Agamemnon wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:What I plan to do is to buy that new Takara Leader OP and paint the orange parts of the weapons in silver paint or something.

Silver sharpie?

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:What I plan to do is to buy that new Takara Leader OP and paint the orange parts of the weapons in silver paint or something.

Silver sharpie?

Silver sharpies are an amazing tool for any Transformers fan. They fix up any paint blemish on "metallic gray" parts of figures in seconds.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:What I plan to do is to buy that new Takara Leader OP and paint the orange parts of the weapons in silver paint or something.

Silver sharpie?

Silver sharpies are an amazing tool for any Transformers fan. They fix up any paint blemish on "metallic gray" parts of figures in seconds.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:What I plan to do is to buy that new Takara Leader OP and paint the orange parts of the weapons in silver paint or something.

Silver sharpie?

Silver sharpies are an amazing tool for any Transformers fan. They fix up any paint blemish on "metallic gray" parts of figures in seconds.

After trying them, Sharpie brand no less, I completely disagree. I don't know if it's the plastic or whatever, but it just don't work. I used 3 colors. Gold, bronze, and silver. All 3 NEVER DRY! Even after weeks or months! Just rub your finger over the "painted" surface and the color is smudged out or removed.

Nah, real paint is the way to go.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:What I plan to do is to buy that new Takara Leader OP and paint the orange parts of the weapons in silver paint or something.

Silver sharpie?

Silver sharpies are an amazing tool for any Transformers fan. They fix up any paint blemish on "metallic gray" parts of figures in seconds.

After trying them, Sharpie brand no less, I completely disagree. I don't know if it's the plastic or whatever, but it just don't work. I used 3 colors. Gold, bronze, and silver. All 3 NEVER DRY! Even after weeks or months! Just rub your finger over the "painted" surface and the color is smudged out or removed.

Nah, real paint is the way to go.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:What I plan to do is to buy that new Takara Leader OP and paint the orange parts of the weapons in silver paint or something.

Silver sharpie?

Silver sharpies are an amazing tool for any Transformers fan. They fix up any paint blemish on "metallic gray" parts of figures in seconds.

After trying them, Sharpie brand no less, I completely disagree. I don't know if it's the plastic or whatever, but it just don't work. I used 3 colors. Gold, bronze, and silver. All 3 NEVER DRY! Even after weeks or months! Just rub your finger over the "painted" surface and the color is smudged out or removed.

Nah, real paint is the way to go.

I've used what, I believe, are the same exact pens you've described with great results. I once had to paint up an entire side of Universe 2008 Roabuster's combat knife. One side was painted silver on the blade, the other side left plain green. The ink-paint dried in less than a minute and never smudged. I've also thoroughly touched up an Evasion Mode Prime, adding in silver color to the smokestacks in robot mode, among other changes, and had no smudging issues. Maybe you were trying to cover some "unpaintable" plastic? Some plastics just will not take any kind of paint for some reason.

shajaki wrote:all this talk about swords, why not just go the Dr Wu route? two versions to choose from.

shajaki wrote:attaboy
i plan to get one of each and have him dual wield. that way, no ugly shield.