TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Clear Pics From Figure King Magazine

Huh, guess the chest head is faux kibble - was wondering about that. When I saw the blurry pics I thought it might have just been a neutral beast-face option for robot mode. I suppose it fits the "show accuracy is king" ideology, and it would allow us to leave the angry/spooked faces on the cheetah head without making the robot mode look odd. Natural extension of MP Optimus having different truck grills for vehicle and robot modes, I guess.

(Personally, I'm more into the cast's appearances after the relevant characters got their Transmetal forms, but c'est la vie.)

his beast mode has whiskers! Nice.

If its a case like Primes two grills, I'll be okay, but if its part swapping on a MP, this will be an easy pass.

shajaki wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

shajaki wrote:Sorry Sabre, I'm with Whitemest (welcome BTW!) on this. I understand fully that Primal would be the first. But the only one I'd have felt ok with being released next if it wasn't going to be Dinobot, is Megatron. He's a big enough deal that he should easily trump Cheetor.

Cheetor's a yellow kid appeal character who was the target audience's gateway character. Even though Dinobot had a more meaningful role from an objective narrative standpoint, an argument could be made for Cheetor being a more subjectively popular character with the show's target audience of children back in the day.

And that target audience from back in the day are adults now. And this is a line geared towards adult collectors.

Two things we should keep in mind; firstly, this is being produced from a Japanese perspective, and the English-speaking fan favorites might not line up perfectly with what Takara's primary market wants.

Secondly, Beast Wars was released in Japan in this order; Beast Wars season 1, the two BW animes, then Beast BW seasons 2 and 3 (as "Beast Wars: Metals"). By that time interest in Beast Wars had started to wane, and a lot of the big stuff that cemented Dinobot as a fan favorite happened in season 2.

Ironhidensh wrote:If its a case like Primes two grills, I'll be okay, but if its part swapping on a MP, this will be an easy pass.

Judging from factors such as the robot chest's ears not having earholes like the beast head's ears do, and the slightly more inflated nature of the chest-head, my best guess would be that the robot mode beast head covers the actual beast mode head. (That, and if Takara was embracing part swapping for BW masterpieces, we probably would have seen clip on bits to cover Primal's visible robo-kibble in beast mode.)

I like the MP-1/MP-10 "two truck grills" analogy, as it makes me wonder if one of the beast mode cheetah heads can hide inside the core of the robot mode torso behind the fake cheetah head.

RevTibe wrote:(Personally, I'm more into the cast's appearances after the relevant characters got their Transmetal forms, but c'est la vie.)

*shrug* Most of the original Transmetal toys for the characters who became Transmetals in the show were already the stuff of near perfection anyway.

If anything, I'd like a TM Rattrap whose beast mode kibble backpack could rotate 180 degrees to have the wheels behind his robot mode rat head shoulders. And maybe just reissues of TM Primal, TM Cheetor, and TM Tarantulas with more show-accurate decos (like their Japanese toys) and new headsculpts with more show-accuracy and (in the cases of Primal and Cheetor) less "Ninja Turtle snarling".

Sabrblade wrote:

RevTibe wrote:(Personally, I'm more into the cast's appearances after the relevant characters got their Transmetal forms, but c'est la vie.)

*shrug* Most of the original Transmetal toys for the characters who became Transmetals in the show were already the stuff of near perfection anyway. ;)

If anything, I'd like a TM Rattrap whose beast mode kibble backpack could rotate 180 degrees to have the wheels behind his robot mode rat head shoulders. And maybe just reissues of TM Primal, TM Cheetor, and TM Tarantulas with more show-accurate decos (like their Japanese toys) and new headsculpts with more show-accuracy and (in the cases of Primal and Cheetor) less "Ninja Turtle snarling".

Hey, I can dream :P Although they're visually very accurate, Transformers engineering has really advanced in the past two decades - would be a shame to see the Transmetals cursed by their own show accuracy to never receive updates.

TM Rattrap's actually the one I've thought about the most (currently customizing one). One of the weaknesses of the mold is how a significant portion of the rat's butt is a hollow brick - open that up, add some basic compression to the arms/legs, and we can stuff Rattrap's robot bits more efficiently into the rat mode. This would clean up his messy undercarriage, but could also lead to a larger robot mode in relation to his rat mode, meaning the rat head pauldrons would be closer to the show's shrunken proportions.

That, and Rattrap needs half a dozen more accessories :P Have the wheels pop off as shields, his gun, explosive charges, spare gun or two from the Coming of the Fuzors showdown...

RevTibe wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:If its a case like Primes two grills, I'll be okay, but if its part swapping on a MP, this will be an easy pass.

Judging from factors such as the robot chest's ears not having earholes like the beast head's ears do, and the slightly more inflated nature of the chest-head, my best guess would be that the robot mode beast head covers the actual beast mode head. (That, and if Takara was embracing part swapping for BW masterpieces, we probably would have seen clip on bits to cover Primal's visible robo-kibble in beast mode.)

Yeah, I am pretty sure there is no parts swapping and that the robot mode beast head is incorporated in the toy. because we saw all the accessories and a fake cheetah head wasnt one of them, so thus it must be integrated.

Speaking of fake beast heads for chests, I really feel that is the only way to do dinobot properly, what do you guys think? Man, i just want an MP Dinobot so bad.

william-james88 wrote:

RevTibe wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:If its a case like Primes two grills, I'll be okay, but if its part swapping on a MP, this will be an easy pass.

Judging from factors such as the robot chest's ears not having earholes like the beast head's ears do, and the slightly more inflated nature of the chest-head, my best guess would be that the robot mode beast head covers the actual beast mode head. (That, and if Takara was embracing part swapping for BW masterpieces, we probably would have seen clip on bits to cover Primal's visible robo-kibble in beast mode.)

Yeah, I am pretty sure there is no parts swapping and that the robot mode beast head is incorporated in the toy. because we saw all the accessories and a fake cheetah head wasnt one of them, so thus it must be integrated.

Speaking of fake beast heads for chests, I really feel that is the only way to do dinobot properly, what do you guys think? Man, i just want an MP Dinobot so bad.

I feel it'd be the best way to do a lot of them, Rattrap and Waspinator included. When the beast mode heads formed the chest, in the cartoon they tended to look a lot more flattened down than could possibly be replicated in plastic form. If the Beast Wars MP line continues, I'd personally expect to see a lot of faux beast mode chests.

A faux chest is fine with me, as long as it is integrated into the toy.

I think it might be easier to name which characters would be able to use the actual beast head instead of a fake one robot mode.

Besides Primal, of course.

Sabrblade wrote:I think it might be easier to name which characters would be able to use the actual beast head instead of a fake one robot mode.

Besides Primal, of course.

Well, I'm pretty sure they won't be able to do a fake with Megatron...

Sabrblade wrote:I think it might be easier to name which characters would be able to use the actual beast head instead of a fake one robot mode.

Besides Primal, of course.

Megatron, Terrorsaur, Scorponok, maybe Rhinox.
Dunno about Tarantulas.

So basically one definite yes, two maybes and two guys which are probably the last ones people want from an MP Beast Wars line.

Did anyone see the offical photos of super ginrai? Cause suprised theres not much talk about it

Starsaber468 wrote:Did anyone see the offical photos of super ginrai? Cause suprised theres not much talk about it

Why would we be talking about Super Ginrai in the Masterpiece Cheetor thread?

Starsaber468 wrote:Did anyone see the offical photos of super ginrai? Cause suprised theres not much talk about it

There is not much talk here because this is thread for Cheetor.
However, we have not seen those photos you speak of so if you have them, please send them to us by clicking on the link in my signature so we can news them.

Can't compete with getting these scans before the guys in Asia do, but here are some higher resolution scans for those interested:

http://www.allspark.com/2016/06/ultra-h ... ers-scans/

From @chromless, painted Cheetor at Wonder Festival 2016 Summer. Probably some better images out there, this is just the link they were using on the Twincast Podcast.





Looks like fans of lightpiped eyes in Masterpiece are getting their wish. I hate that, but the figure otherwise looks fantastic!

Emerje

Dear Seibertronians, you may need to lower your brightness settings for what you are about to see, because it is glorious. We now have color images of Takara Masterpeice Cheetor, thanks to seibertronians steals_your_goats and MaverickPrime. Shown at the Wonderfest 2016 convention, this is the first time we've seen a full-color mock-up of MP Cheetor's robot mode. His beast mode was also on display, but it was unfortunately still in it's grey-scale prototype phase. Check out the photos below, credited to @52toys and @Chohenken!

I think i'll go put on some clean underwear...

There are no "photos below" in the news post at the front page. There is only a thumbnail (which takes me to a forum page, showing no pictures on that page) and one comment regarding the news on the main page

Please fix.

Until the article is fixed just scroll up in the forum to see the pics I posted.

Emerje

Thanks.

primalxconvoy wrote:Thanks.

Its fixed and looking awesome!

Holy shit.... That looks amazing.

At first I was like why does he have so much gold? Then I remembered the cartoon model. I think he looks amazing. I can't wait to see pictures of his beast mode whenever those come out. Takara I'll take all of the Beast Wars Masterpieces you want to make.

Now THAT's gorgeous!

That looks amazing! I hope they keep producing more from the Beast Wars series.

I wasn't a huge fan of BW, but that robot mode looks really really nice.
Is there a chance a MP BW Megatron may not happen because that character was so big??

But back to Cheetus, yeah, if you're a fan, looks like this isn't to be missed.
I will say the waist/crotch looks a little off somehow.
No joke intended, but it looks a little flat, and the whole section looks a bit big.
But I could be wrong.

Sowndwave76 wrote:I wasn't a huge fan of BW, but that robot mode looks really really nice.
Is there a chance a MP BW Megatron may not happen because that character was so big??

Star Saber was Combiner-sized and they were able to do him. They could make Megs a little shorter than Ultra Magnus if they wished.

Sabrblade wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I wasn't a huge fan of BW, but that robot mode looks really really nice.
Is there a chance a MP BW Megatron may not happen because that character was so big??

Star Saber was Combiner-sized and they were able to do him. They could make Megs a little shorter than Ultra Magnus if they wished.

Obv the could make him smaller. I just wonder if they would want to.
While I'm sure MP doesn't completely stick to a standard scale, if Megatron was only a bit bigger than Primal, I think that could be very underwhelming.
Especially for a MP.

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I wasn't a huge fan of BW, but that robot mode looks really really nice.
Is there a chance a MP BW Megatron may not happen because that character was so big??

Star Saber was Combiner-sized and they were able to do him. They could make Megs a little shorter than Ultra Magnus if they wished.

Obv the could make him smaller. I just wonder if they would want to.
While I'm sure MP doesn't completely stick to a standard scale, if Megatron was only a bit bigger than Primal, I think that could be very underwhelming.
Especially for a MP.

You do know that MP Ultra Magnus is a BIG figure, right? BW Megs being around that size would put him on a much bigger size than Optimus Primal.

Sabrblade wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I wasn't a huge fan of BW, but that robot mode looks really really nice.
Is there a chance a MP BW Megatron may not happen because that character was so big??

Star Saber was Combiner-sized and they were able to do him. They could make Megs a little shorter than Ultra Magnus if they wished.

Obv the could make him smaller. I just wonder if they would want to.
While I'm sure MP doesn't completely stick to a standard scale, if Megatron was only a bit bigger than Primal, I think that could be very underwhelming.
Especially for a MP.

You do know that MP Ultra Magnus is a BIG figure, right? BW Megs being around that size would put him on a much bigger size than Optimus Primal.

Yes, thank you.

This better have articulated cheeter eyes

Preorders for MP-34 Cheetor have popped up, both from importers and Japanese vendors, and with those we finally have official images of the product. The price point is much lower than MP Optimus Primal's and closer to that of the MP cars with a range of $46-$76, depending the retailer.

Here are all the new official stock images, and the multiple angles give us our best look at the figure yet. Is the leg kibble fine for you? Let us know!

Huh...never noticed before his beast head in bot mode was fake. Sorry haven't kept up on this and couldn't tell with the grey prototypes.

Looks nice. It's Cheetor, he literally has dozens of figures so it doesn't wow me but it's nice.

The Cheetah legs hanging off the back of the bot mode look unpleasant, like some sort of unfinished fur coat. Think I would rather they unpegged.

S-O-L-D. Man. Cheetor was always one of my favorites. Seriously, this looks fantastic.

Ravage XK wrote:The Cheetah legs hanging off the back of the bot mode look unpleasant, like some sort of unfinished fur coat. Think I would rather they unpegged.

Did you feel the same when they were like that in the show?

Sabrblade wrote:

Ravage XK wrote:The Cheetah legs hanging off the back of the bot mode look unpleasant, like some sort of unfinished fur coat. Think I would rather they unpegged.

Did you feel the same when they were like that in the show?

No, I know its show accurate. I just think it would look sleeker without.

Ravage XK wrote:No, I know its show accurate. I just think it would look sleeker without.

Whats not show accurate though are his legs in beast mode. I am having a really hard time with those robot feet hanging off there. I get that its for a better look in robot mode, but even then the animation model did have the beast feet as heels, so its not show accurate either.

I am happy with the rest (especially with the price) but that back area really bugs me. Super curious to see where that cheetah face ends up.

The rear leg kibble is not as bad in these new photos, but it really is disappointing and unnecessary. A bit more rear leg thought would have made this a real Masterpiece, not even the fake cat chest in robot mode bothers me. The rear cat legs are however stopping me from picking this up.

Everyone keeps saying that the head in alt mode is fake but I don't see where the original head goes.

This seems to suffer from the same design flaws as MP Optimus Primal; namely robot kibble hanging off the back/hindlegs/feet of the beast mode legs/feet.

I wish TT would cease with gimmicks on these (different animal faces) and just make a figure that transformed from one authentic mode to the next. Maybe the gimmicks were included to make us forget about the flaws?

As it is, these two MP BW figs seem to be slightly more detailed, yet overpriced deluxe CHUGS, madeto compliment deluxe Rattrap and Rhinox (Dinobotand CHUG Cheetor does not count).

primalxconvoy wrote:This seems to suffer from the same design flaws as MP Optimus Primal; namely robot kibble hanging off the back/hindlegs/feet of the beast mode legs/feet.

I wish TT would cease with gimmicks on these (different animal faces) and just make a figure that transformed from one authentic mode to the next. Maybe the gimmicks were included to make us forget about the flaws?

As it is, these two MP BW figs seem to be slightly more detailed, yet overpriced deluxe CHUGS, madeto compliment deluxe Rattrap and Rhinox (Dinobotand CHUG Cheetor does not count).

^^THIS^^

william-james88 wrote:I get that its for a better look in robot mode, but even then the animation model did have the beast feet as heels,

Did it, though?

I know the original toy had that, but it looks to me like the show model had the same kind of heels as this MP had:

primalxconvoy wrote:This seems to suffer from the same design flaws as MP Optimus Primal; namely robot kibble hanging off the back/hindlegs/feet of the beast mode legs/feet.

Where else could they go? Cheetor's hindlegs were really thin in the show and just magically morphed into his thicker robot legs.

Besides, the original toy did that too.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I get that its for a better look in robot mode, but even then the animation model did have the beast feet as heels,

Did it, though?

I know the original toy had that, but it looks to me like the show model had the same kind of heels as this MP had:

primalxconvoy wrote:This seems to suffer from the same design flaws as MP Optimus Primal; namely robot kibble hanging off the back/hindlegs/feet of the beast mode legs/feet.

Where else could they go? Cheetor's hindlegs were really thin in the show and just magically morphed into his thicker robot legs.

Besides, the original toy did that too.

Then why bother getting a new, more expensive toy with the same flaws?

Masterpiece MUST be a better toy. It's primary design aim is almost perfect representation of both modes, either to the toy or animation model.

I don't believe that they couldn't have given him covers for the feet, it found a way to unfold the feet into covers for the lower legs, creating "kneepads", for example.

If third parties can pull such designs off, then so can Takara.

primalxconvoy wrote:Then why bother getting a new, more expensive toy with the same flaws?

Masterpiece MUST be a better toy.

Are you saying that this MP isn't a better toy than the original? It certainly looks a lot more like Cheetor than the original toy did, and has way more articulation points and paint apps than the original, and certainly attempts to hide the robot leg kibble better than the original toy's solid blue hindlegs' complete lack of even trying to hide it.

primalxconvoy wrote:If third parties can pull such designs off, then so can Takara.

A third party pulled off an MP cheetor that looks better than this?

Yeah, I don't recall third parties making a Masterpiece anything that isn't G1. There's a lot of Notfernos and Notstreakers but I don't recall any Noteetors.