Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation
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Good day, fellow Seibertronians! Much debate has been had regarding the upcoming MP-44 Optimus Prime, and today we have something that may help you make your decision regarding the controversial collectible. Ripped from the Transformers Generations 2019 book, we have a translation of an article devoted to Masterpiece's latest offering, courtesy of Jeremy Barlow of Soundwaves Oblivion.
Though nothing present in the translation is necessarily new or revolutionary, it could prove valuable to some still on the fence regarding whether they want to indulge in this divisive figure.
For those interested in more translations of both Masterpiece Articles and Tech Specs, Soundwaves Oblivion has translations for all figures up to MP-42.
On a related note, it has come to our attention that the Previews World Listing for MP-44 does not mention the three mini-figures included with the figure proper. It is important to make clear that all regions will receive the same version of the figure with the same accessories, as has not always been true in the past.
Did these translations help you make up your mind on whether or not you will be purchasing this mammoth-priced Masterpiece? Let us know what you think in the forums below, and stay tuned to Seibertron for all your Transformers news and reviews!
Though nothing present in the translation is necessarily new or revolutionary, it could prove valuable to some still on the fence regarding whether they want to indulge in this divisive figure.
For those interested in more translations of both Masterpiece Articles and Tech Specs, Soundwaves Oblivion has translations for all figures up to MP-42.
On a related note, it has come to our attention that the Previews World Listing for MP-44 does not mention the three mini-figures included with the figure proper. It is important to make clear that all regions will receive the same version of the figure with the same accessories, as has not always been true in the past.
Did these translations help you make up your mind on whether or not you will be purchasing this mammoth-priced Masterpiece? Let us know what you think in the forums below, and stay tuned to Seibertron for all your Transformers news and reviews!
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Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007373)
Posted by transformers_va on January 29th, 2019 @ 9:52pm CST
Posted by transformers_va on January 29th, 2019 @ 9:52pm CST
It might be expensive, but I'm definitely sold 
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007381)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on January 29th, 2019 @ 10:36pm CST
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on January 29th, 2019 @ 10:36pm CST
That’s an awesome article!
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007398)
Posted by Cyberpath on January 30th, 2019 @ 1:02am CST
Posted by Cyberpath on January 30th, 2019 @ 1:02am CST
The joy of your favourite Transformer also being the most iconic/popular one -- he gets a figure in every toyline, and usually the first one to get made! And if the first toy is no longer up to standard he gets made again!
Almost makes me want make an Optimus Prime themed shelf.
Almost makes me want make an Optimus Prime themed shelf.
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007424)
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on January 30th, 2019 @ 10:43am CST
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on January 30th, 2019 @ 10:43am CST
Personally I have an Optimus shelf (Well, it's more of a Primes shelf) because of the shear number of figures of him I have.
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007425)
Posted by Short Circuit on January 30th, 2019 @ 10:56am CST
Posted by Short Circuit on January 30th, 2019 @ 10:56am CST
Wow, no waist turn in the transformation just for cartoon accuracy? That explains why the legs do so much panel work, they have to turn themselves around! 
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007429)
Posted by KVO Prime on January 30th, 2019 @ 11:11am CST
Posted by KVO Prime on January 30th, 2019 @ 11:11am CST
I want this... but now that I'm budgeting... I can't just yet. $400+ for a toy... eesh 
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007430)
Posted by Ironhidensh on January 30th, 2019 @ 11:23am CST
Posted by Ironhidensh on January 30th, 2019 @ 11:23am CST
still awesome.
Still 100% not worth the ridiculous price.
Still 100% not worth the ridiculous price.
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007466)
Posted by cruizerdave on January 30th, 2019 @ 4:23pm CST
Posted by cruizerdave on January 30th, 2019 @ 4:23pm CST
Neat, but too rich for my blood!
Also, we're on the third iteration of Optimus, two Rodimus figures and still no Galvatron? What's up with that!?
Also, we're on the third iteration of Optimus, two Rodimus figures and still no Galvatron? What's up with that!?
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007469)
Posted by william-james88 on January 30th, 2019 @ 4:49pm CST
Good guys, especially leaders sell better than villains in Japan.
Posted by william-james88 on January 30th, 2019 @ 4:49pm CST
cruizerdave wrote:Neat, but too rich for my blood!
Also, we're on the third iteration of Optimus, two Rodimus figures and still no Galvatron? What's up with that!?
Good guys, especially leaders sell better than villains in Japan.
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007544)
Posted by Randomhero on January 30th, 2019 @ 10:57pm CST
Yeah a lot of time villains don’t even get toys in Japan or they’re very few.
Posted by Randomhero on January 30th, 2019 @ 10:57pm CST
william-james88 wrote:cruizerdave wrote:Neat, but too rich for my blood!
Also, we're on the third iteration of Optimus, two Rodimus figures and still no Galvatron? What's up with that!?
Good guys, especially leaders sell better than villains in Japan.
Yeah a lot of time villains don’t even get toys in Japan or they’re very few.
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007545)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 30th, 2019 @ 11:03pm CST
Transformers is a true oddity when it comes to that, for sure. Villains only get toys when they're notable, look like the hero, or are grunts.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 30th, 2019 @ 11:03pm CST
Randomhero wrote:william-james88 wrote:cruizerdave wrote:Neat, but too rich for my blood!
Also, we're on the third iteration of Optimus, two Rodimus figures and still no Galvatron? What's up with that!?
Good guys, especially leaders sell better than villains in Japan.
Yeah a lot of time villains don’t even get toys in Japan or they’re very few.
Transformers is a true oddity when it comes to that, for sure. Villains only get toys when they're notable, look like the hero, or are grunts.
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007571)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 31st, 2019 @ 10:00am CST
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 31st, 2019 @ 10:00am CST
A better comparison is we have Eleven Seekers Starscreams, "Two" Shockwaves, Two (technically three) Megatron's and No Galvatron.
I've mentioned before, the lack of love for the '86 Movie (and beyond) characters is just sad.
I've mentioned before, the lack of love for the '86 Movie (and beyond) characters is just sad.
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007572)
Posted by william-james88 on January 31st, 2019 @ 10:03am CST
Changed that bit so taht it makes more sense. The movie gets a ton of love from Hasbro.
Posted by william-james88 on January 31st, 2019 @ 10:03am CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I've mentioned before, the lack of love for the '86 Movie (and beyond) characters FROM TAKARA is just sad.
Changed that bit so taht it makes more sense. The movie gets a ton of love from Hasbro.
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007573)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 31st, 2019 @ 10:09am CST
Sorry, I should have prefaced that in this thread, I was referring strictly to the Masterpiece Line.
Within that context, I don't see Hasbro doing anything different to Takara regarding The Movie.
I don't see [Hasbro Exclusive] MP Springer, Arcee, Kup, Blurr, Wheelie, Wreck-Gar, Cyclonus, Armada or Scourge and the Sweeps? To date when it comes to the MP Line, I see Hasbro adhering to the same "Optimus Prime for every exhaust port" fetish that Takara is choking the rest of the lines with.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 31st, 2019 @ 10:09am CST
william-james88 wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I've mentioned before, the lack of love for the '86 Movie (and beyond) characters FROM TAKARA is just sad.
Changed that bit so that it makes more sense. The movie gets a ton of love from Hasbro.
Sorry, I should have prefaced that in this thread, I was referring strictly to the Masterpiece Line.
Within that context, I don't see Hasbro doing anything different to Takara regarding The Movie.
I don't see [Hasbro Exclusive] MP Springer, Arcee, Kup, Blurr, Wheelie, Wreck-Gar, Cyclonus, Armada or Scourge and the Sweeps? To date when it comes to the MP Line, I see Hasbro adhering to the same "Optimus Prime for every exhaust port" fetish that Takara is choking the rest of the lines with.
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007574)
Posted by william-james88 on January 31st, 2019 @ 10:10am CST
Oh yeah for sure, I should have thought of that too.
Posted by william-james88 on January 31st, 2019 @ 10:10am CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:william-james88 wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I've mentioned before, the lack of love for the '86 Movie (and beyond) characters FROM TAKARA is just sad.
Changed that bit so that it makes more sense. The movie gets a ton of love from Hasbro.
Sorry, I should have prefaced that in this thread, I was referring strictly to the Masterpiece Line.
Within that context, I don't see Hasbro doing anything different to Takara regarding The Movie.
I don't see [Hasbro Exclusive] MP Springer, Arcee, Kup, Blurr, Wheelie, Wreck-Gar, Cyclonus, Armada or Scourge and the Sweeps. To date when it comes to the MP Line, I see the same "Optimus Prime for every exhaust port" fetish that Takara is choking the rest of the lines with.
Oh yeah for sure, I should have thought of that too.
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007575)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 31st, 2019 @ 10:12am CST
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 31st, 2019 @ 10:12am CST
No worries. As an Aside, surely MP Wheelie would have to come with someone else IE A new in-scale mold for Grimlock?
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007697)
Posted by Agamemnon on February 1st, 2019 @ 8:36am CST
Would that be the case? *Looks at the very small MP Bumblebee* Yeah, in a way I wouldn't mind getting an MP again where I wouldn't have to consider mortgaging my house...
Posted by Agamemnon on February 1st, 2019 @ 8:36am CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:No worries. As an Aside, surely MP Wheelie would have to come with someone else IE A new in-scale mold for Grimlock?
Would that be the case? *Looks at the very small MP Bumblebee* Yeah, in a way I wouldn't mind getting an MP again where I wouldn't have to consider mortgaging my house...
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007700)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 1st, 2019 @ 9:16am CST
The thing with Wheelie though is he is often the same size as Spike and/or Daniel in their exo-suits. I mean what could they even charge for an MP that small on his own? That's why I think it would make sense for him to be paired up with someone bigger, as the regular human figures were.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 1st, 2019 @ 9:16am CST
Agamemnon wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:No worries. As an Aside, surely MP Wheelie would have to come with someone else IE A new in-scale mold for Grimlock?
Would that be the case? *Looks at the very small MP Bumblebee* Yeah, in a way I wouldn't mind getting an MP again where I wouldn't have to consider mortgaging my house...
The thing with Wheelie though is he is often the same size as Spike and/or Daniel in their exo-suits. I mean what could they even charge for an MP that small on his own? That's why I think it would make sense for him to be paired up with someone bigger, as the regular human figures were.
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007703)
Posted by william-james88 on February 1st, 2019 @ 9:41am CST
Why cant we then simply use Legends Wheelie as a stand in? Sounds like the best MP stand in we ever had due to scale and accurate likness of both modes, making an MP Wheelie down the list in terms of priorities.
Posted by william-james88 on February 1st, 2019 @ 9:41am CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The thing with Wheelie though is he is often the same size as Spike and/or Daniel in their exo-suits. I mean what could they even charge for an MP that small on his own? That's why I think it would make sense for him to be paired up with someone bigger, as the regular human figures were.
Why cant we then simply use Legends Wheelie as a stand in? Sounds like the best MP stand in we ever had due to scale and accurate likness of both modes, making an MP Wheelie down the list in terms of priorities.
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007705)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 1st, 2019 @ 9:43am CST
Indeed. When it comes to Movie characters for the MP line, I wouldn't be surprised if the general consensus puts Wheelie at the bottom, under Wreck-Gar..
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 1st, 2019 @ 9:43am CST
william-james88 wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The thing with Wheelie though is he is often the same size as Spike and/or Daniel in their exo-suits. I mean what could they even charge for an MP that small on his own? That's why I think it would make sense for him to be paired up with someone bigger, as the regular human figures were.
Why cant we then simply use Legends Wheelie as a stand in? Sounds like the best MP stand in we ever had due to scale and accurate likness of both modes, making an MP Wheelie down the list in terms of priorities.
Indeed. When it comes to Movie characters for the MP line, I wouldn't be surprised if the general consensus puts Wheelie at the bottom, under Wreck-Gar..
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007706)
Posted by william-james88 on February 1st, 2019 @ 9:45am CST
By the way, Allnewsuperrobot, I really like your avatar pic.
Posted by william-james88 on February 1st, 2019 @ 9:45am CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:william-james88 wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The thing with Wheelie though is he is often the same size as Spike and/or Daniel in their exo-suits. I mean what could they even charge for an MP that small on his own? That's why I think it would make sense for him to be paired up with someone bigger, as the regular human figures were.
Why cant we then simply use Legends Wheelie as a stand in? Sounds like the best MP stand in we ever had due to scale and accurate likness of both modes, making an MP Wheelie down the list in terms of priorities.
Indeed. When it comes to Movie characters for the MP line, I wouldn't be surprised if the general consensus puts Wheelie at the bottom, under Wreck-Gar..
By the way, Allnewsuperrobot, I really like your avatar pic.
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007710)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 1st, 2019 @ 9:52am CST
Thanks and likewise! TM Megatron was my favourite design in Beast Wars after all.
I do have a fondness for Iguanus. Although he never appeared in the show, he was the second BW figure I got after the Gator Megatron & Bat Primal two pack. Loved the headsculpt (in contrast to Gator Megs) and so I even started to write/draw fanfic and stuff around him.
I think Transformers, more than most other media, can endear you with a visual without a word of dialogue.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 1st, 2019 @ 9:52am CST
william-james88 wrote:By the way, Allnewsuperrobot, I really like your avatar pic.
Thanks and likewise! TM Megatron was my favourite design in Beast Wars after all.
I do have a fondness for Iguanus. Although he never appeared in the show, he was the second BW figure I got after the Gator Megatron & Bat Primal two pack. Loved the headsculpt (in contrast to Gator Megs) and so I even started to write/draw fanfic and stuff around him.
I think Transformers, more than most other media, can endear you with a visual without a word of dialogue.
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007775)
Posted by GrangerPerry on February 1st, 2019 @ 8:09pm CST
Posted by GrangerPerry on February 1st, 2019 @ 8:09pm CST
Anyone notice in the sketch it looks like the chairs fold out into platforms in repair mode? Looks like they’re metal so the magnet feet will probably stick to them. Also love how the hip skirt on the robot sketch used to look exactly like megatron’s but then some one invented a better way to do hip skirts. Looks like we’ll have to wait for a mp Megatron 3.0 to get a proper match!
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007807)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 2nd, 2019 @ 9:27am CST
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 2nd, 2019 @ 9:27am CST
I thought MP-36 was The Definitive Megatron? In terms of show accuracy also??
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007809)
Posted by Cobotron on February 2nd, 2019 @ 9:35am CST
I think MP-44 is proof that nothing is ever actually definitive.
Posted by Cobotron on February 2nd, 2019 @ 9:35am CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I thought MP-36 was The Definitive Megatron? In terms of show accuracy also??
I think MP-44 is proof that nothing is ever actually definitive.
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007836)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 2nd, 2019 @ 2:21pm CST
That is more telling of a problem within Transformers than proof of anything else
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 2nd, 2019 @ 2:21pm CST
Cobotron wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I thought MP-36 was The Definitive Megatron? In terms of show accuracy also??
I think MP-44 is proof that nothing is ever actually definitive.
That is more telling of a problem within Transformers than proof of anything else
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007843)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on February 2nd, 2019 @ 3:04pm CST
Problem? What problem?
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on February 2nd, 2019 @ 3:04pm CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Cobotron wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I thought MP-36 was The Definitive Megatron? In terms of show accuracy also??
I think MP-44 is proof that nothing is ever actually definitive.
That is more telling of a problem within Transformers than proof of anything else
Problem? What problem?
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007845)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 2nd, 2019 @ 3:09pm CST
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 2nd, 2019 @ 3:09pm CST
The Prime fetish.
Most media has that 'one' character in an ensemble series that is typically the most marketable, for whatever reason. Ryu (SF), Scorpion(MK), Wolverine(X-Men), Iron-Man (Avengers), Batman (DC, in general) etc etc They normally aren't the main character, just the popular one. Which through confirmation bias, is the face behind the most merch. Prime is That character in Transformers.
Most media has that 'one' character in an ensemble series that is typically the most marketable, for whatever reason. Ryu (SF), Scorpion(MK), Wolverine(X-Men), Iron-Man (Avengers), Batman (DC, in general) etc etc They normally aren't the main character, just the popular one. Which through confirmation bias, is the face behind the most merch. Prime is That character in Transformers.
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007847)
Posted by Emerje on February 2nd, 2019 @ 3:22pm CST
Why is that a problem, though? The character that pays the bills are always going to be the ones that are front and center and as long as people keep buying them companies will keep pushing them. That says a lot more about fans than anything.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on February 2nd, 2019 @ 3:22pm CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The Prime fetish.
Most media has that 'one' character in an ensemble series that is typically the most marketable, for whatever reason. Ryu (SF), Scorpion(MK), Wolverine(X-Men), Iron-Man (Avengers), Batman (DC, in general) etc etc They normally aren't the main character, just the popular one. Which through confirmation bias, is the face behind the most merch. Prime is That character in Transformers.
Why is that a problem, though? The character that pays the bills are always going to be the ones that are front and center and as long as people keep buying them companies will keep pushing them. That says a lot more about fans than anything.
Emerje
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007850)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 2nd, 2019 @ 3:30pm CST
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 2nd, 2019 @ 3:30pm CST
The problem is the oversaturation across all the lines. Prime isn't the only popular character within Transformers. Just the one Takara fixates on the most (and in recent times Movie Bumblebee). For the people that love the character it's fine I guess, but there is next to zero growth or originality to him anymore. Barring Optimus Primal, Optimus Prime has been set in stone as a variation of a red truck (of some description) since the 80's. Starscream also shares in that issue too I suppose. Couple that with his sheer abundance and the problem lies in a dated core to the series.
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007860)
Posted by Cobotron on February 2nd, 2019 @ 4:19pm CST
Posted by Cobotron on February 2nd, 2019 @ 4:19pm CST
Mickey Mouse has always been a mouse.
My point was, Transformers is a series built on redefining itself. To say one specific version or toy is the definitive version is only up to the beholder.
Red Freightliner defined G1 Prime. A gorilla defined Beast Wars Prime. Cool weird space fire truck defined Cybertron Prime. A red train engine defined Transformers GO! Prime. And there will be new definitions as long as fans have money to spend.
Is Prime in a truck rut at the moment? Maybe.
Would I personally like to see Prime transform into other things? SURE! Why not?
MP-44 may be the newest "definitive" G1 cartoon accurate version of the character. Or MP-36 for Megatron, for that matter. But you can bet there will be more attempts to "get it right".
AllNew, I ask you this, is Masterpiece Optimus Primal your definitive Primal?
My point was, Transformers is a series built on redefining itself. To say one specific version or toy is the definitive version is only up to the beholder.
Red Freightliner defined G1 Prime. A gorilla defined Beast Wars Prime. Cool weird space fire truck defined Cybertron Prime. A red train engine defined Transformers GO! Prime. And there will be new definitions as long as fans have money to spend.
Is Prime in a truck rut at the moment? Maybe.
Would I personally like to see Prime transform into other things? SURE! Why not?
MP-44 may be the newest "definitive" G1 cartoon accurate version of the character. Or MP-36 for Megatron, for that matter. But you can bet there will be more attempts to "get it right".
AllNew, I ask you this, is Masterpiece Optimus Primal your definitive Primal?
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007861)
Posted by no-one on February 2nd, 2019 @ 4:32pm CST
Posted by no-one on February 2nd, 2019 @ 4:32pm CST
There is a reason why they keep re-releasing the same popular characters over and over. To sell toys.
Cobotron nailed it on the head and I've recently come to the same conclusion. They are going to keep on keeping on as long as the toys sell. The options are pretty straight forward though once a "definitive" figure has been released; don't buy any more figures, buy additional figures, or sell old figures and "upgrade".
When it comes to Masterpiece, MP10 is my stop point, until something I deem better comes along. MP44 looks like a marvelous bit of engineering and a part of me feels like I'm missing out, but I only have so much time, money and shelf space.
Characters getting remade, re-imagined and re-released is just part of this franchise. Every iteration of Transformers will have their time to shine with Beast Wars likely to get theirs soon. If there's one thing us G1 kiddies can say for sure, "nostalgia is one helluva drug!"
Cobotron nailed it on the head and I've recently come to the same conclusion. They are going to keep on keeping on as long as the toys sell. The options are pretty straight forward though once a "definitive" figure has been released; don't buy any more figures, buy additional figures, or sell old figures and "upgrade".
When it comes to Masterpiece, MP10 is my stop point, until something I deem better comes along. MP44 looks like a marvelous bit of engineering and a part of me feels like I'm missing out, but I only have so much time, money and shelf space.
Characters getting remade, re-imagined and re-released is just part of this franchise. Every iteration of Transformers will have their time to shine with Beast Wars likely to get theirs soon. If there's one thing us G1 kiddies can say for sure, "nostalgia is one helluva drug!"
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007862)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 2nd, 2019 @ 4:34pm CST
Which is surely counter-intuitive to Prime himself?
This is what I'm saying. The idea seems to be that the "definitive" look/version of Optimus Prime in 2019 is his design from a cartoon from 1984.
He is not just 'a truck in a rut at the moment', the character has been trapped in it for 35 years.
No. Because of the electronics. He is very good, but the electronics and what that takes away from the articulation of the figure leave it lacking. Even at a minor, nit-picking level.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 2nd, 2019 @ 4:34pm CST
Cobotron wrote:My point was, Transformers is a series built on redefining itself.
Which is surely counter-intuitive to Prime himself?
Cobotron wrote:Is Prime in a truck rut at the moment? Maybe.
Would I personally like to see Prime transform into other things? SURE! Why not?
This is what I'm saying. The idea seems to be that the "definitive" look/version of Optimus Prime in 2019 is his design from a cartoon from 1984.
He is not just 'a truck in a rut at the moment', the character has been trapped in it for 35 years.
Cobotron wrote:AllNew, I ask you this, is Masterpiece Optimus Primal your definitive Primal?
No. Because of the electronics. He is very good, but the electronics and what that takes away from the articulation of the figure leave it lacking. Even at a minor, nit-picking level.
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007864)
Posted by Cobotron on February 2nd, 2019 @ 4:47pm CST
Honestly, not the answer I was anticipating! But a good answer none the less.
For me, the original toy defined that character. I had the toy and fell in love with it and the idea of Beast Wars before I ever saw the show. which was disappointingly another example of the cartoon missing the mark on what I thought the character should look like. And despite it, I loved that show! But my definitive Optimus Primal is the original toy.
I just want to try to further enforce the notion that "definitive" is only in the eye of the beholder. The Transformers fandom and it's perception of Transformers is as diverse as Prime's many iterations.
Posted by Cobotron on February 2nd, 2019 @ 4:47pm CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:No. Because of the electronics. He is very good, but the electronics and what that takes away from the articulation of the figure leave it lacking. Even at a minor, nit-picking level.Cobotron wrote:AllNew, I ask you this, is Masterpiece Optimus Primal your definitive Primal?
Honestly, not the answer I was anticipating! But a good answer none the less.For me, the original toy defined that character. I had the toy and fell in love with it and the idea of Beast Wars before I ever saw the show. which was disappointingly another example of the cartoon missing the mark on what I thought the character should look like. And despite it, I loved that show! But my definitive Optimus Primal is the original toy.
I just want to try to further enforce the notion that "definitive" is only in the eye of the beholder. The Transformers fandom and it's perception of Transformers is as diverse as Prime's many iterations.
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2007866)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 2nd, 2019 @ 4:58pm CST
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 2nd, 2019 @ 4:58pm CST
Normally I don't invest in "hero" characters. The villains are my favourites and in just about everything, they have superior designs too. That said I did buy into both sides in Beast Wars. I had three of the four BW Primal's (I loathe Optimal Optimus). I liked Bat Primal (and Gator Megs). It would have been interesting for him to be depicted as something so physically weak.
As an aside, although they were never part of any show, I would love an MP twin pack of Bat Primal and Gator Megatron. They were the first of the line, so it would be a nice callback.
As far as 'definitives' go, I just wish Takara and Hasbro would at least try to embrace the entire line. How many Primes do the Blurr or Swoop fans have to sit through before they get their 'definitive' favourite??
As an aside, although they were never part of any show, I would love an MP twin pack of Bat Primal and Gator Megatron. They were the first of the line, so it would be a nice callback.
As far as 'definitives' go, I just wish Takara and Hasbro would at least try to embrace the entire line. How many Primes do the Blurr or Swoop fans have to sit through before they get their 'definitive' favourite??
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2008423)
Posted by Cyberpath on February 6th, 2019 @ 7:22am CST
Posted by Cyberpath on February 6th, 2019 @ 7:22am CST
I wonder why MP-28 Hot Rod (star of TFTM) and MP-25 Tracks (featured in a couple of episodes) didn't get the face gimmick, even though it's been the standard since MP-21 Bumblebee.
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2008426)
Posted by Cobotron on February 6th, 2019 @ 7:47am CST
Posted by Cobotron on February 6th, 2019 @ 7:47am CST
My best guess with Hot Rod would be because they couldn't accommodate the goggles ( 
) and a face swap?
Tracks didn't want anybody messing with his face. Too vain!
) and a face swap?Tracks didn't want anybody messing with his face. Too vain!
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2008431)
Posted by no-one on February 6th, 2019 @ 8:13am CST
Posted by no-one on February 6th, 2019 @ 8:13am CST
I have mixed feelings on the face swap gimmick. On one hand I like the options, on the other hand once I pick a face (always boring static or mask) it never changes. So it's a fun option, but not something I look for.
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2008435)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on February 6th, 2019 @ 8:23am CST
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on February 6th, 2019 @ 8:23am CST
I love the face swapping myself. While I do tend to keep a particular face for several months, I do switch them out for different poses.
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2008441)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 6th, 2019 @ 8:50am CST
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 6th, 2019 @ 8:50am CST
Most of the time, I tend to stick with the default face that comes attached. The one exception was Shadow Panther. I keep him with the chrome "mutant mask" face and it suits his colour palette and overall aesthetic far better than the other Cheetor faces he comes with. Gives him a bit of visual distinction from Cheetor too. It will be interesting to see how the faces gimmick applies to MP Waspinator or Tarantulas, who don't have expressive facial features.
For my part, the most redundant are the alternate Beast Mode faces. I transform them once and they stay in Bot Mode on display.
For my part, the most redundant are the alternate Beast Mode faces. I transform them once and they stay in Bot Mode on display.
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2008445)
Posted by Cyberpath on February 6th, 2019 @ 9:07am CST
Nah, just kidding, he's a natural mechanical beauty.
I really like the gimmick, especially on Megatron. And the head-swaps representing different designs/styles.
I envy the face-gimmick of the new Bluestreak, even though I'm already happy with the original.
Speaking of which, Ironhide and Ratchet have the same faces in the cartoon -- I wish Takara had done their gimmick like Inferno and Grapple where you can switch between them. That way we'd have a smiling Ironhide.
Posted by Cyberpath on February 6th, 2019 @ 9:07am CST
I figured one of his faces could have had the goggles. He's the star of TFTM it's kind of strange that the gimmick skipped over him.Cobotron wrote:My best guess with Hot Rod would be because they couldn't accommodate the goggles (
Tracks probably gets the robot equivalent of Botox so he can't have facial expressions anyway.Cobotron wrote:Tracks didn't want anybody messing with his face. Too vain!
Nah, just kidding, he's a natural mechanical beauty.
I really like the gimmick, especially on Megatron. And the head-swaps representing different designs/styles.
I envy the face-gimmick of the new Bluestreak, even though I'm already happy with the original.
Speaking of which, Ironhide and Ratchet have the same faces in the cartoon -- I wish Takara had done their gimmick like Inferno and Grapple where you can switch between them. That way we'd have a smiling Ironhide.
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2009229)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 9th, 2019 @ 7:55pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 9th, 2019 @ 7:55pm CST
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2009732)
Posted by william-james88 on February 11th, 2019 @ 4:16pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on February 11th, 2019 @ 4:16pm CST
We wanted to let you know about 2 new Transformers Masterpiece figures, Streak and Bumblebee Version 2.0 from Takara Tomy! Both with be available exclusively at EB Game Canada.
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Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2009833)
Posted by Cyberpath on February 12th, 2019 @ 3:57am CST
Posted by Cyberpath on February 12th, 2019 @ 3:57am CST
Do you think the new SIEGE SKYFIRE (JETFIRE) is a "pilot" for an MP version -- or is it as good as it gets, like UW04 Devastator?
I think he looks awesome!
Wish the feet were all back, but otherwise..
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I think he looks awesome!
Wish the feet were all back, but otherwise..
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Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2009855)
Posted by Ironhidensh on February 12th, 2019 @ 7:00am CST
You forget the 3rd party offerings that put both of those to shame.
Posted by Ironhidensh on February 12th, 2019 @ 7:00am CST
Cyberpath wrote:Do you think the new SIEGE SKYFIRE (JETFIRE) is a "pilot" for an MP version -- or is it as good as it gets, like UW04 Devastator?
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You forget the 3rd party offerings that put both of those to shame.
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2009860)
Posted by Emerje on February 12th, 2019 @ 7:40am CST
Jetfire looks as good as I need him to (which is quite good) for only $80 and really not much worse than 3rd party version, just a little shorter. I'm not entirely convinced yet that he's the right size for MP, though he is about the same size as Star Saber so he might be OK.
UW Devastator was originally designed as a proposed MP and he fits in quite well, as do the individual Constructicons. the UW version in particular, in my opinion, looks better than any 3rd party version, especially for cartoon accuracy like modern MPs.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on February 12th, 2019 @ 7:40am CST
Ironhidensh wrote:Cyberpath wrote:Do you think the new SIEGE SKYFIRE (JETFIRE) is a "pilot" for an MP version -- or is it as good as it gets, like UW04 Devastator?
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You forget the 3rd party offerings that put both of those to shame.
Jetfire looks as good as I need him to (which is quite good) for only $80 and really not much worse than 3rd party version, just a little shorter. I'm not entirely convinced yet that he's the right size for MP, though he is about the same size as Star Saber so he might be OK.
UW Devastator was originally designed as a proposed MP and he fits in quite well, as do the individual Constructicons. the UW version in particular, in my opinion, looks better than any 3rd party version, especially for cartoon accuracy like modern MPs.
Emerje
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2009863)
Posted by Cyberpath on February 12th, 2019 @ 7:55am CST
This SIEGE Skyfire looks virtually like a Masterpiece figure. I was wondering if they made him this way so he could fit with both SIEGE and MP. (Assuming he's tall enough.)
With regards to 3P, I'm not in any rush to complete the cast in MP form, happy enough with the average release rate and the figures I already have.
I'm not tempted to pick up 3P for the other reason that IMO the official Masterpieces are consistently better. (Even though I appreciate both.) I don't want a situation where I'm stuck with an expansive/large 3P figure while there's a way better official one out. (Hopefully the new MP-45 is a fluke and not an indication of all future releases.. even his feet have backpacks!
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Posted by Cyberpath on February 12th, 2019 @ 7:55am CST
Ironhidensh wrote:You forget the 3rd party offerings that put both of those to shame.
This SIEGE Skyfire looks virtually like a Masterpiece figure. I was wondering if they made him this way so he could fit with both SIEGE and MP. (Assuming he's tall enough.)
With regards to 3P, I'm not in any rush to complete the cast in MP form, happy enough with the average release rate and the figures I already have.
I'm not tempted to pick up 3P for the other reason that IMO the official Masterpieces are consistently better. (Even though I appreciate both.) I don't want a situation where I'm stuck with an expansive/large 3P figure while there's a way better official one out. (Hopefully the new MP-45 is a fluke and not an indication of all future releases.. even his feet have backpacks!
)
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2010902)
Posted by RobRobRobRobRob on February 16th, 2019 @ 3:41pm CST
Posted by RobRobRobRobRob on February 16th, 2019 @ 3:41pm CST
Once more from the showfloor of the New York Toy Fair 2019, we have new photos of several upcoming Masterpiece figures, courtesy of our wonderful Seibertron and Megatronus!
First, we have MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron, showcasing only his robot mode, though there is still plenty to show and plenty of images to show it!
Next, we have an unpainted sample of the most hotly debated MP in recent memory, MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0, showcasing its robot and vehicle mode from most any conceivable angle!
Following that we have the recently revealed MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0, showcasing both its robot mode and the small Witwicky that comes packaged with it.
Moving quickly onward is MP-20+ Wheeljack, displaying both modes, though without accessories.
Finally, we have MP-14+ Prowl, who likewise is shown in both vehicle and robot mode without any accessories.
Toy Fair 2019 will continue on throughout the weekend, so be sure to stay tuned to Seibertron.com for more news straight from the showfloor!
First, we have MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron, showcasing only his robot mode, though there is still plenty to show and plenty of images to show it!
Next, we have an unpainted sample of the most hotly debated MP in recent memory, MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0, showcasing its robot and vehicle mode from most any conceivable angle!
Following that we have the recently revealed MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0, showcasing both its robot mode and the small Witwicky that comes packaged with it.
Moving quickly onward is MP-20+ Wheeljack, displaying both modes, though without accessories.
Finally, we have MP-14+ Prowl, who likewise is shown in both vehicle and robot mode without any accessories.
Toy Fair 2019 will continue on throughout the weekend, so be sure to stay tuned to Seibertron.com for more news straight from the showfloor!
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2010954)
Posted by First-Aid on February 16th, 2019 @ 7:08pm CST
Posted by First-Aid on February 16th, 2019 @ 7:08pm CST
Am I the only one stunned by the size of MP Beast Wars Megatron? WHoa!
Re: Transformers Generations 2019 MP-44 Article Translation (2010976)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on February 16th, 2019 @ 9:23pm CST
I was speculating in the MP-43 thread that he’d be taller than MP-36, but it’s still a behemoth to behold beside MP-44.
Since we know MP-44 will be similar to 36 height-wise, we can see that 43 over here will be a head of two taller than both. I don’t have MP Magnus though, but I assume 43 is still going to be smaller than him?
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on February 16th, 2019 @ 9:23pm CST
First-Aid wrote:Am I the only one stunned by the size of MP Beast Wars Megatron? WHoa!
I was speculating in the MP-43 thread that he’d be taller than MP-36, but it’s still a behemoth to behold beside MP-44.
Since we know MP-44 will be similar to 36 height-wise, we can see that 43 over here will be a head of two taller than both. I don’t have MP Magnus though, but I assume 43 is still going to be smaller than him?
