Transformers Movie Ratchet Automorph Feature Revealed

I do not know how I kept missing this today Front paged and credited!

Alex Kingdom wrote:

Burn wrote:This "Auto-morphing" seems to be in multiple spots over the body and "transforms" different parts. TF's like Nitro Convoy only had the one spring loaded part that assisted transformation, so Auto-morphing, if it is in different spots on the body, is a step up from that.

So what's new about Automorphing is some figures will have it occurring in more than one place? Still sounds like an old gimmick dressed up as something new to me, just like planet keys being the new mini-cons.

Yours AK

Actually, since I'm one of the few people in the world who've actually transformed one of these Transformers with "automorph technology", let me elaborate that it's actually a cool little feature. Yeah, it's essentially the same type of "technology" as the original Beast Wars and Machine Wars basics (what's the fan name for those again? flipformers?). But it's a little different because it's more complex than any prior Transformer toy that shares a similar feature. On Starscream, the whole chest and shoulders mechanism is part of this "automorph technology" which I believe, if I recall correctly (diablien???), happens between the following two photographs that I took of diablien's Starscream prototype:

Thanks for sharing these images with us, s250! I really appreciate it.

so in simpler words, automorph technology is a complex way of unfolding automatically, right?

whoopie-do.

It's about what I expect from Hasbro, a flashy name for something very un-flashy.

I like the idea but the name Automorphing sucks. They might as well have called it Automorphing Power Rangers technology. They should just call it somthing else.

Seriously ... what the heck are you guys complaining for? Stop being such negative Nancies. This is ridiculous! This "new" or "renamed" feature doesn't make the Voyager class Transformer any more or less complex than they normally are. Actually, I had diablien transform the figure for me because I was concerned about causing damage to the figure. I think there were at least 15 steps involved with transforming this figure from robot mode to vehicle mode. The "automorph" feature was actually pretty slick on the figure. I wish you guys would just stop bitching about everything that gets named, created, leaked, displayed, etc. It seems like no matter what Hasbro or Takara does, the fans complain. How disheartening and depressing!

Well the image isn't there anymore can someone descride it or get there own version of this up someplace.

Seibertron wrote:Seriously ... what the heck are you guys complaining for? Stop being such negative Nancies. This is ridiculous! This "new" or "renamed" feature doesn't make the Voyager class Transformer any more or less complex than they normally are. Actually, I had diablien transform the figure for me because I was concerned about causing damage to the figure. I think there were at least 15 steps involved with transforming this figure from robot mode to vehicle mode. The "automorph" feature was actually pretty slick on the figure. I wish you guys would just stop bitching about everything that gets named, created, leaked, displayed, etc. It seems like no matter what Hasbro or Takara does, the fans complain. How disheartening and depressing!

Very true, but have you you ever stopped to question why? New Transformers lines have come and gone but on a whole there have been a large enough proportion of fans singing Hasbro and Takaras praises for the new line to give the impression the fans will get behind it. In fact Galaxy Force had one of the warmest receptions of any other line when we first images of the toys. Maybe these toys and this movie simply look like crap, maybe they're not bothered about how complex the figures are is the end result looks like a pile of trash, maybe they're less willing to overlook the recycled ideas and gimmicks because their not getting an attractive toy line in return?

'Negative nancies' or 'ninnies' is a terribly derogatory term used by half-wits like Don Murphy to put down and silence those that might raise a valid complaint about something he has a vested interest in promoting. Right now I see very little difference between the two of you. It's everyones right to complain and criticise, especially when it is something the feel passionately about, in fact I seem to remember you doing that yourself not so long ago?

Yours AK

I can't see it anymore. All I see is some weird imageshack notice with a frog on it. I wanna see it!

Seibertron wrote:Seriously ... what the heck are you guys complaining for? Stop being such negative Nancies. This is ridiculous! This "new" or "renamed" feature doesn't make the Voyager class Transformer any more or less complex than they normally are. Actually, I had diablien transform the figure for me because I was concerned about causing damage to the figure. I think there were at least 15 steps involved with transforming this figure from robot mode to vehicle mode. The "automorph" feature was actually pretty slick on the figure. I wish you guys would just stop bitching about everything that gets named, created, leaked, displayed, etc. It seems like no matter what Hasbro or Takara does, the fans complain. How disheartening and depressing!

I agree with Ryan. We need to stop whining. I can't say I haven't. (I I remember saying elsewhere I'm not a big fan of Ratchet's deco, if that counts.) It's just I think its been way more than a bit much for a while now. It also seems to happen every toy line.


So frigging what if they're calling the gimmicks for the movie toys "Automorph technology"? Hasbro's been doing this ever since Headmasters (if not before that), haven't they? Wait.....you're not gonna start retro-bashing the Headmasters just because of the mini-con like gimmick, are ya? I hope not, because as blocky as I feel the ones I had were, those are the ones I wish I still have but don't. (That's why I've been wanting to see them brought back ever since Armada.)

Edit: I'm kinda bummed that it seems to be down now. I'd like to form my own opinion without it being tainted by everyone's whining please.

Alex Kingdom wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Seriously ... what the heck are you guys complaining for? Stop being such negative Nancies. This is ridiculous! This "new" or "renamed" feature doesn't make the Voyager class Transformer any more or less complex than they normally are. Actually, I had diablien transform the figure for me because I was concerned about causing damage to the figure. I think there were at least 15 steps involved with transforming this figure from robot mode to vehicle mode. The "automorph" feature was actually pretty slick on the figure. I wish you guys would just stop bitching about everything that gets named, created, leaked, displayed, etc. It seems like no matter what Hasbro or Takara does, the fans complain. How disheartening and depressing!

Very true, but have you you ever stopped to question why? New Transformers lines have come and gone but on a whole there have been a large enough proportion of fans singing Hasbro and Takaras praises for the new line to give the impression the fans will get behind it. In fact Galaxy Force had one of the warmest receptions of any other line when we first images of the toys. Maybe these toys and this movie simply look like crap, maybe they're not bothered about how complex the figures are is the end result looks like a pile of trash, maybe they're less willing to overlook the recycled ideas and gimmicks because their not getting an attractive toy line in return?

'Negative nancies' or 'ninnies' is a terribly derogatory term used by half-wits like Don Murphy to put down and silence those that might raise a valid complaint about something he has a vested interest in promoting. Right now I see very little difference between the two of you. It's everyones right to complain and criticise, especially when it is something the feel passionately about, in fact I seem to remember you doing that yourself not so long ago?

Yours AK

First off, the term "negative nancy" isn't a "terribly derogatory" term. It's a statement about people who are always complaining. Calling people "little whiny bitches" or "depressing dushbag" or a "bloody complaining wanker" is derogatory and are terms that I would never use except to demonstrate that "negative nancy" is not derogatory.

Second, please don't compare me to Don Murphy.

Third, I'm tired of people complaining about every single fucking thing in the fandom. It's getting old.

I feel like everywhere I turn, someone is complaining about something. There's someone complaining about Classic Ramjet's face in one thread, a gimmick about the new movie figures in another thread, someone bitching about not liking the artwork in one of the latest Transformers comics and somebody's bitching about how expensive MP3 Soundwave and iPod Prime are. It seems like no matter what news gets posted ... someone is bitching about something. I'm tired of people bitching at everything so I'm saying something.

Let me ask you, AK ... what do you like about the Transformers right now? What do you honestly, really love, like, desire about the Transformers right now? I haven't read you writing anything positive about the Transformers really, except for the KISS line which you and I are in the minority on, which makes me start to wonder why you're participating on Transformers sites if there's nothing that you're enjoying (so it seems). I like having you around but it seems like you're torturing yourself if there's nothing you're enjoying in the hobby really.

If you don't like anything that's coming out about the Transformers and all you have to do is complain about the Transformers, it seems like there are more positive ways to spend your time? Maybe you don't realize how much you are complaining about the Transformers.

I guess that's what I'm trying to shine a light on. I think people are complaining about every single little thing and they don't realize how much they're complaining. It's ridiculous in my opinion.

ShGarland_1383 wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Seriously ... what the heck are you guys complaining for? Stop being such negative Nancies. This is ridiculous! This "new" or "renamed" feature doesn't make the Voyager class Transformer any more or less complex than they normally are. Actually, I had diablien transform the figure for me because I was concerned about causing damage to the figure. I think there were at least 15 steps involved with transforming this figure from robot mode to vehicle mode. The "automorph" feature was actually pretty slick on the figure. I wish you guys would just stop bitching about everything that gets named, created, leaked, displayed, etc. It seems like no matter what Hasbro or Takara does, the fans complain. How disheartening and depressing!

I agree with Ryan. We need to stop whining. I can't say I haven't. (I I remember saying elsewhere I'm not a big fan of Ratchet's deco, if that counts.) It's just I think its been way more than a bit much for a while now. It also seems to happen every toy line.


So frigging what if they're calling the gimmicks for the movie toys "Automorph technology"? Hasbro's been doing this ever since Headmasters (if not before that), haven't they? Wait.....you're not gonna start retro-bashing the Headmasters just because of the mini-con like gimmick, are ya? I hope not, because as blocky as I feel the ones I had were, those are the ones I wish I still have but don't. (That's why I've been wanting to see them brought back ever since Armada.)

Edit: I'm kinda bummed that it seems to be down now. I'd like to form my own opinion without it being tainted by everyone's whining please.

Thanks for agreeing! I'm not saying people shouldn't complain or express their opinion. But this thread is one of those things that I think is stupid to complain about. It's turned into a whole thread of people complaining about something they haven't even tried or seen yet for themselves yet somehow they feel like typing senseless messages complaining about something they've had zero experience with. If this thread isn't the perfect example of people complaining just to complain, then I don't know what is. I'm simply tired of it. Yeah, I have a lot of things to complain about, but I don't complain about everything and I certainly bite my lips on a few things because it's simply not worth my time to complain about. My time is more valuable than that. I'd like to think that the people who never post anything positive and are always posting something negative in almost every post have something better to do with their time than post like Eeyore is their hero. Blustery day? Screw that. Go outside and play in the mud. Have fun. Make due with what you have, not what you don't have. Your glass is half full, not half empty. It's all about perception. Perception is reality. For the people who are posting negative comments, there are more efficient ways to express your opinion than simply complaining like Eeyore.

Seibertron wrote:

ShGarland_1383 wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Seriously ... what the heck are you guys complaining for? Stop being such negative Nancies. This is ridiculous! This "new" or "renamed" feature doesn't make the Voyager class Transformer any more or less complex than they normally are. Actually, I had diablien transform the figure for me because I was concerned about causing damage to the figure. I think there were at least 15 steps involved with transforming this figure from robot mode to vehicle mode. The "automorph" feature was actually pretty slick on the figure. I wish you guys would just stop bitching about everything that gets named, created, leaked, displayed, etc. It seems like no matter what Hasbro or Takara does, the fans complain. How disheartening and depressing!

I agree with Ryan. We need to stop whining. I can't say I haven't. (I I remember saying elsewhere I'm not a big fan of Ratchet's deco, if that counts.) It's just I think its been way more than a bit much for a while now. It also seems to happen every toy line.


So frigging what if they're calling the gimmicks for the movie toys "Automorph technology"? Hasbro's been doing this ever since Headmasters (if not before that), haven't they? Wait.....you're not gonna start retro-bashing the Headmasters just because of the mini-con like gimmick, are ya? I hope not, because as blocky as I feel the ones I had were, those are the ones I wish I still have but don't. (That's why I've been wanting to see them brought back ever since Armada.)

Edit: I'm kinda bummed that it seems to be down now. I'd like to form my own opinion without it being tainted by everyone's whining please.

Thanks for agreeing! I'm not saying people shouldn't complain or express their opinion. But this thread is one of those things that I think is stupid to complain about. It's turned into a whole thread of people complaining about something they haven't even tried or seen yet for themselves yet somehow they feel like typing senseless messages complaining about something they've had zero experience with. If this thread isn't the perfect example of people complaining just to complain, then I don't know what is. I'm simply tired of it. Yeah, I have a lot of things to complain about, but I don't complain about everything and I certainly bite my lips on a few things because it's simply not worth my time to complain about. My time is more valuable than that. I'd like to think that the people who never post anything positive and are always posting something negative in almost every post have something better to do with their time than post like Eeyore is their hero. Blustery day? Screw that. Go outside and play in the mud. Have fun. Make due with what you have, not what you don't have. Your glass is half full, not half empty. It's all about perception. Perception is reality. For the people who are posting negative comments, there are more efficient ways to express your opinion than simply complaining like Eeyore.

Exactly.

I guess the length of time that I've spent as a fan who has been giving back to the community for 11 years helps me put things in perspective.

I remember when I started the Trans-Forum fanzine newsletter way back in 1996, four years before SEIBERTRON.com was a twinkle in my eyes, how uncertain the hobby was at that time. I remember when there were only 20 - 25 figures released per year, instead of 100 - 125 figures. I remember when there were NO cartoons on the air. I remember when we were without Transformers comic books for almost 8 years. I remember when all we had were Action Masters and Micromasters for a year. I remember what it was like to buy Transformers BEFORE the Internet. I remember what it was like before we found out about exclusive Transformers overseas. I remember what it was like before we found out there was going to be a major motion picture. I remember what it was like when G1 ended in the States. I remember what it was like when the G2 comics were canceled in 1995. Hell, I remember what it felt like to not go to the comic book store for 3 months in 1990 and to walk into the comic book store to buy issues 78, 79 and 80 and to find out that issue 80 was the last issue. How heartbreaking! I remember when Beast Wars was first released and the Autobots and Decepticons were no more.

I remember a lot of crappy things that fans should've really complained about. Maybe that's what made my skin a little thicker during these trying times with the movie just about to be released in 5 months. Maybe I have a greater appreciation for everything that's going on because of everything I've been through as a fan for the past 23 years. Maybe I don't complain about things that I don't have control over because I have better ways to spend my time. Sure, I express my opinion here and there but it seems like fans are complaining just to complain. Maybe they think it's the "cool thing to do" or maybe they just like hopping on the bandwagon and "being like everyone else".

Screw it. You're glass is half full folks. Let's start thinking positively. There's ways to say, hey that feature isn't the greatest but whatever without sounding like an ass.

Seibertron wrote:Sure, I express my opinion here and there but it seems like fans are complaining just to complain. Maybe they think it's the "cool thing to do" or maybe they just like hopping on the bandwagon and "being like everyone else".

Or maybe they actually have their own opinion based on THEIR passion for Transformers.

We're all fans, but we all have our own preferences in TF's. Some may be grateful to even have TF's and will accept anything released regardless of how crap it is, while others will look at figures like the Masterpiece line, or the BT line, and decide that this is the benchmark of good TF's and something like Classics Mini-cons are a let down because of that benchmark.

I will agree that SOME fans complain for the sake of complaining, but I feel they're a minority. The majority of fans simply have their own tastes, they know what they like, they know what they hate. Look around, we have a large community here, a lot of opinions are going to be shared, that's not jumping on a bandwagon, it's simply having something in common with your fellow TF fan.

I can't see the clip....it says bandwidth has been exceeded. I'll keep my opinons to myself untill I do.

RYAN. STEVE.

Both of you need to take a chill pill.

Now I know there has been an unusual amount of negativity towards the movie and the toys/mechandise. I put a lot of this down to the fact that when the movie project began Mr. Bay came to us and asked for fan input, which as far as things have been seen has been thrown back in our faces. This alone will create quite a lot of repressed negative emotion for the fandon as seen in a lot of movie related threads not just in Seibertron.com, but on other TF fansights.

Yes people have been going overboard about this. Yes there have been days when TFs looked like they were down and out in the post GEN-2 days. Yes as a fan comunity we have had some hard ships. If you think it was bad it the US the UK demise of the Marvel run comic and closure were a lot worse. I have been a Trans fan since 84 and have also been through all you have listed and beleive me when I say the UK has a long way to go for Transformers to be of the same notoriatey that it enjoys in the States.

We should be thankfull that TFs are the big thing at the moment and look to be around for a long time to come.

As for this toppic it is at best a new variation on an old idear.

As for your remark I don't know about the US but in the UK nancy is a shortened slang term for a Gay man,(nancy boy) that originated in the 70s so while in the US no one would find this offencive please remember you have members from dozens of countrys from around the would and what might not offend you may be very offencive to someone from another country.

As a closing statement I would like to add. EVERYONE lighten up this is a great hobby. Try to look more for the positives YES there is always going to be negatives but there is always something better coming round the corner.

Seibertron wrote:stuff.

I ain't got the space to quote everything you said, but HOLELY QFT, Boss. All the complaining is getting real tired. I mean, yeah everyone's got an opinion, I get it. You can say you hate 'til you're blue in the face, but at the end of the day, who gives a crap. This is what we're gettin', deal with it. Don't like it, don't friggin' buy it. It just seems with everything new we see, no matter how good or bad, the same cast of characters try and blast it to the stone age. I wonder to if they're complaining to be in with the shrinking crowd of devout haters out there, determined to see this fail so they can say "Look, told ya so!". BAH! And believe me, I was there during the bad times as well. TF's were on there death-bed, yeah that sucked, especially after the way both G1 and G2 went out. With a whimper, not a bang. And this is definately not bad-times for the TFs, especially cuz a few negative fan boys say so.

On the Automorph Gimmick, I'm up in the air. Definately cool on paper, but could be a liabilty to the toy's life span. Especially if the parts involved are fragile. I like to futz with my TFs every now and again, and I don't want to be afraid of busting it apart when I do so. How frail did it feel to you, Seibs? I do plan on buying a couple of each. For my personal collection, and some for my child-on-the-way(I will take away the firing missles til he/she is older.) Just hope it does't ruin the toy's durability.

Seibertron wrote: Third, I'm tired of people complaining about every single **** thing in the fandom. It's getting old.

Most of us were not complaining, we were pointing out that this gimmick isn't exactly new and giving it a lame name like 'Automorphing' doesnt make it any newer, on my part it was nothing but an observation. Like I said this is no different to Cyber Keys being a very similar concept to Minicons. Some of us may feel more inclided to express our opinions negativly becuase we are not fans of the movie toys, of fans of the direction the movie has gone in. Surely these are valid points of view? This is a discussion board and everyone should be alowed to express their opinion so long as it is not directly offensive to anyone or breaking any forum rules, Last time i checked complaining and objective critisism wasn't against the rules.

Seibertron wrote:Let me ask you, AK ... what do you like about the Transformers right now? What do you honestly, really love, like, desire about the Transformers right now? I haven't read you writing anything positive about the Transformers really, except for the KISS line which you and I are in the minority on, which makes me start to wonder why you're participating on Transformers sites if there's nothing that you're enjoying (so it seems). I like having you around but it seems like you're torturing yourself if there's nothing you're enjoying in the hobby really.

Well you haven't been looking hard enough. I have posted positive threads on this forum and the Cartoon/comics forum since the forum wipe trying to promote positive descussion on these boards after a rather negative event. There are plenty of parts of the hobby I still enjoy, however what is coming out is moving away from that. Is it wrong for me to express that opinion? I love the Kiss Players, Im not sure what difference being in a minority over that makes in your eyes?, I'm a big fan of the IDW comic books, personally I feel this is the sort of direction the movie writers should have taken, and Im very interested by the forthcoming Transformers Heroes series. If all these things fail to deliver I'm gone, but while I'm here I will feel compleled to comment on those things that are causing me to question my reasons for being here.

Yours AK

con you repost image this one dosent work try tinypic.com

You guys who want it to be similar to g1 list i will list for all characters


Optimus Prime- Hes a truck,leader of the autobots, Close to g1 head,an autobot.Vocied by cullen,has blue on him,has the name optimus prime

Bumblebee- Hes a small car,hes yellow,hes one of the smaller autobots,hes an autobot.

Ironhide-Hes an autobot,turns into a 4 whealed vehicle

Jazz-has visor,an autobot,turns into a car

Ratchet-Hes a medic, hes an autobot

Megatron-hes silver,leader of decepticons,dislike starscream

Starscream- is a decepticon,turns into a jet,has guns on arms,dislikes megatron

Brawl- a decepticon,a tank,to extar barrels added

Blackout-A decepticon

Scorponock- a scorpion,a decepticon

Barricade- a decepticon,turns into a fast car.

Frenzy- a decepticon,a scout,smallest transformer

and for those of you who will complain about this i did list simularaties so get over it.

I can't wait to check out the Automorph technology for myself!

My dream would be a Beast Wars Movie where the animal alt modes look all hairy and fleshy....maybe someday! You know the technology is there to do it.

Wow. What a hot little topic. I agree most people that frequent this site like to complain. I have seen on other sites fans are usually stoked about new stuff, and then I see my fellow Seibertronians are all crapping their pants about the same thing. Why? Automorph seems pretty cool to me. I love the Basic Beasts and Machine wars. This doesn't even take away from the transformation. This is just my opinion, so don't anyone get offended. I understand people not liking these for the simple fact of not liking the movie. I used to be like you, then I saw the trailer and did a 180. It isn't G1, its new. And impressive. I understand where Ryan is coming from. No matter how cool something is people get pissed about it. Some were even upset about the new BW. Whats to be upset about. I'm only dissappointed in that I can't justify buying them all. I am glad for all the hype and whoring out of transformers due to recent movie popularity. Why? Well even though I'll never be able to afford the MP3 Soundwave, I'm glad to see it because that means Transformers popularity is stronger than ever. And hopefully it will be around for another 20+ years. So I encourage everyone to voice their opinions, but after thinking about it with an open mind. Lets not make Seibertron the most depressing site around. Anyone with a positive opinion please voice it more!
And by the way, I am all for the automorphing tech. It seems cool. Not groundbreaking, but certainly a welcome addition to the world of TFs.

HitsugiKun wrote:You guys who want it to be similar to g1 list i will list for all characters


Optimus Prime- Hes a truck,leader of the autobots, Close to g1 head,an autobot.Vocied by cullen,has blue on him,has the name optimus prime

Bumblebee- Hes a small car,hes yellow,hes one of the smaller autobots,hes an autobot.

Ironhide-Hes an autobot,turns into a 4 whealed vehicle

Jazz-has visor,an autobot,turns into a car

Ratchet-Hes a medic, hes an autobot

Megatron-hes silver,leader of decepticons,dislike starscream

Starscream- is a decepticon,turns into a jet,has guns on arms,dislikes megatron

Brawl- a decepticon,a tank,to extar barrels added

Blackout-A decepticon

Scorponock- a scorpion,a decepticon

Barricade- a decepticon,turns into a fast car.

Frenzy- a decepticon,a scout,smallest transformer

and for those of you who will complain about this i did list simularaties so get over it.

No offense, but what does that have to do with the movie toys' automorph features?? Did you mistakenly post in the wrong topic?

the odd thing is people complian when they have not seen the movie nor played with the toys well except for seibertron and daiblen you lucky ........ I wish people would just shut up they are just pictures you havent seen them in action or played with them. I mean automorph is a good sounding gimmick but what ever.

Every toy line has it's own gimmick, to me, this seems alot better than the last two or three we got.

I'm wondering though, are these springbots like NitroConvoy and the beast wars basics as mentioned on page 1, or is it something cool like the vents on MP-Convoy's legs

Hope that the picture or video or whatever it was can get back up sometime soon. I'd like to see what this thing is before I can make up my mind as to how good/bad it is.

I haven't seen anyone in this thread outright complain about the 'automorphing'. Simply skepticism. As has been said before, most of us haven't actually had the opportunity to handle them or see them in-person. That being said I don't see the harm in discussing the potential pitfalls of the 'gimmick' or discussing, based on what we've seen and read, whether or not it's really something new that justifies it's own trademarked keyword. When the figures see release they'll be judged on their own merits and if suitably impressive our fears will be proven baseless. If not, there will be genuine complaints. Either way I don't see being skeptical any more irrational than being enthusiastic over the word 'sounding cool'.

People are seriously way too defensive over these things. It isn't as if the fans haven't been disappointed a hundred times before based on unrealistically high expectations. If people buy into the marketing hype and realize down the road that 'automorphing' isn't some incredible groundbreaking achievement in engineering and that Ultimate Bumblebee isn't going to move like his on-screen persona or fetch beer, that's when you're going to get complaints.

Well, since the UK members only make up about 10% of this website, we'll continue using the U.S. definition of the term "negative nancy". The opposite of a "Negative Nancy" is a "Positive Penny". It's just a cutesy little phrase when someone is complaining and always looking at the dark side instead of the positive side of things. For those of you who are talking about being to express your opinion, I have no problem with you expressing your opinion. However, it's HOW you guys are expressing your opinion that I have a problem with. There are more positive ways to express your disliking of a subject than how most of you are. That's all I'm really trying to point out.

all i have to sat is and this is how judge the new movie figures i could care less what they call the transformation process as long the figure looks good to buy its fine they could even call it powermorphing on the box but if the figure is good to buy with ill buy it.

I dont really see what everyones problem is with automorphing name on the figures packages its what some of the figures them selves look like that represnet the characters of the film i can understand megatron looks like in the film that i can understand.

Weres the clip?

Megatron_Wolf wrote:Weres the clip?

Same here. All I'm getting is a frog.

ImageShack SUCKS.

I'd just like to make it clear that I don't think, nor did I ever say 'Automorphing' was a bad gimmick. Is actually a pretty cool gimmick, but it is nothing new. On the other hand I don't like what I have seen so far of the Movie toys or the movie and do not look forward to either dominating the Transformers market later this year and for the foreseeable future. If I came off as overly negative I am sorry. I may be proved wrong yet and maybe I should be a little more optimistic.

Yours AK

Funny how one seemingly unassuming news topic has opened the floodgates of emotion and opinion.

I would like to think I can see where both sides are coming from on this issue. I understand where Ryan is coming from in terms of the fandom complaining about every little thing. There are other un-named Transformers sites that have WAY to much of that nonsense, that's why I've always liked this site because it had the least of that kind of hostility. I think part of that is due to the fact that this "little" fandom and hobby of ours is a lot bigger than it was ten years ago. There's a lot more people with the ability to bitch about anything they want than say, 10 years ago.

On the other hand,
I get where AK is coming from in a way too. If you look back on the history of the Transformers, many "gimmicks" have seemed to come full circle. Some fans feel that they want some imagination in the gimmicks that they are being given with each new line. Something DIFFERENT. Mini-cons to me seemed like a throwback to the Headmasters & Micro Masters of the Late '80's. Or re-paints? Combiners have gone and come back how many times?.

Perhaps it's too much to ask of the fandom to "play nice" with each other when it comes to expressing our voice and opinions on everything Transformers. Typing those opinions certainly does not compare to real, human communication or contact and all it takes is a few grammatical errors to turn a benign conversation into something else entirely.

Personally, I'm not very thrilled about some of the designs I've seen for the new movie, but hey, if someone else likes them, fine. I don't think they are ruining the Transformers by liking what I don't. I may not go out and purchase the new movie Starscream, but I think it's cool that Ryan has photographed it. It helped me make my decision that much easier. I'm sure that he has photographed a bunch of Transformers in the past that he might have thought was a "crap" design or toy. And someone may have really liked that "crap" toy. Who cares. Let everyone enjoy what they want.

But really, let's stop the nonsense of who's right, who's wrong, who's on first, etc. before it get's out of hand.

Bot Marley wrote:I can't wait to check out the Automorph technology for myself!

My dream would be a Beast Wars Movie where the animal alt modes look all hairy and fleshy....maybe someday! You know the technology is there to do it.

I'm not a beast wars fan or a Beast mode fan for that matter. But I always thought it would be cool to see someone like Leobreaker covered in hair. Even as a toy. Or when he's in bot mode, putting the piece of his main that hangs off his head up in a poney tail. To me that would be interesting to see, to see how a Transformer would react and almost "groom" themselves as robots. I can't remember a lot of beast wars, but I remember very few moments in the show where, while in animal mode they ever groomed themselves. All I get is a mental picture or terrasaur pecking under his wing.

As for the automorph tech, it seems interesting. Mind you, I'm a little late for the party and I've missed the guest of honor so I didn't see exactally how it worked. I think this will be a very interesting gimmick to say the least. Quite the step forward from simple spring loaded mechanics.

Down_Shift wrote:As for the automorph tech, it seems interesting. Mind you, I'm a little late for the party and I've missed the guest of honor so I didn't see exactally how it worked. I think this will be a very interesting gimmick to say the least. Quite the step forward from simple spring loaded mechanics.

Honestly it was not that impressive. You know how when you push together the hips of Energon Cruellock his shoulders pop out and his head flips back? It's similar to that.

Yours AK

Alex Kingdom wrote:

Down_Shift wrote:As for the automorph tech, it seems interesting. Mind you, I'm a little late for the party and I've missed the guest of honor so I didn't see exactally how it worked. I think this will be a very interesting gimmick to say the least. Quite the step forward from simple spring loaded mechanics.

Honestly it was not that impressive. You know how when you push together the hips of Energon Cruellock his shoulders pop out and his head flips back? It's similar to that.

Yours AK

So was that the only "Automorph" feature to Ratchet or will there be more then just the leg dohickies. It sounds interesting if it's a slide that moves many parts, but somewhat of a let down if its just a spring loaded "boing". I'll have to see more of the transformation to have final judgement over him. Thanks for the description though.

Maximal Prime wrote:I'm sure that he has photographed a bunch of Transformers in the past that he might have thought was a "crap" design or toy. And someone may have really liked that "crap" toy. Who cares. Let everyone enjoy what they want.

Oh, let me tell you how many figures I own now that I could care less about but I bought them so that I could create galleries to share with all of you.

Since the original image/animation/whatever is not available, I just have to comment on the 2 images Seibertron posted about SS's Automorph thingy: Holy crap, Starscream is the most ridiculous, st00pid, ugliest, retarded, misshapen piece of cheap plastic I've ever seen!!!! That thing makes me ashamed to be a TF fan.

Seibertron wrote:Oh, let me tell you how many figures I own now that I could care less about but I bought them so that I could create galleries to share with all of you.

I know man. And as a fan, I thank you

polymorphic wrote:Since the original image/animation/whatever is not available, I just have to comment on the 2 images Seibertron posted about SS's Automorph thingy: Holy crap, Starscream is the most ridiculous, st00pid, ugliest, retarded, misshapen piece of cheap plastic I've ever seen!!!! That thing makes me ashamed to be a TF fan.

Usings zeros in place of regular o's should make you ashamed of yourself. Period.

Down_Shift wrote:

polymorphic wrote:Since the original image/animation/whatever is not available, I just have to comment on the 2 images Seibertron posted about SS's Automorph thingy: Holy crap, Starscream is the most ridiculous, st00pid, ugliest, retarded, misshapen piece of cheap plastic I've ever seen!!!! That thing makes me ashamed to be a TF fan.

Usings zeros in place of regular o's should make you ashamed of yourself. Period.

S0rry. I th0ught it w0uld cause me t0 c0me acr0ss as L337 h4x0r, but, alas, I am ashamed 0f myself. Thanks f0r sh0wing me the err0r in my ways.

polymorphic wrote:

Down_Shift wrote:

polymorphic wrote:Since the original image/animation/whatever is not available, I just have to comment on the 2 images Seibertron posted about SS's Automorph thingy: Holy crap, Starscream is the most ridiculous, st00pid, ugliest, retarded, misshapen piece of cheap plastic I've ever seen!!!! That thing makes me ashamed to be a TF fan.

Usings zeros in place of regular o's should make you ashamed of yourself. Period.

S0rry. I th0ught it w0uld cause me t0 c0me acr0ss as L337 h4x0r, but, alas, I am ashamed 0f myself. Thanks f0r sh0wing me the err0r in my ways.

I have no clue what you just said... are you coming on to me?

Im slightly confused, and unwilling to wade through all this nagging. This is parts sliding like Primus's chest and shoulders did? just more of an autmatic instead of tearing up your hands in pushing the Omega Lock?

I guess I misunderstood Automorphing and understood it as being electronic on the better figures, which seriously would be a step up from Beast Wars basics. Depending on execution, possibly a very big step up. If it's just interconnection of parts, I'm not as impressed, but nevertheless, if it's executed in such a way that practically every part moves some other part, that would be impressive.

Down_Shift wrote:

polymorphic wrote:

Down_Shift wrote:

polymorphic wrote:Since the original image/animation/whatever is not available, I just have to comment on the 2 images Seibertron posted about SS's Automorph thingy: Holy crap, Starscream is the most ridiculous, st00pid, ugliest, retarded, misshapen piece of cheap plastic I've ever seen!!!! That thing makes me ashamed to be a TF fan.

Usings zeros in place of regular o's should make you ashamed of yourself. Period.

S0rry. I th0ught it w0uld cause me t0 c0me acr0ss as L337 h4x0r, but, alas, I am ashamed 0f myself. Thanks f0r sh0wing me the err0r in my ways.

I have no clue what you just said... are you coming on to me?

I dunno. Do you look like Arcee or Bay's Starscream?

I just want to see the damned animation. How did NO ONE host this??? Send it to me and I'LL host it!