Transformers Titans Return Deluxe Kup Artwork Revealed

Kup's looking pretty fine there so far! Honestly my biggest hope is that his truck mode will have a solid(-ish) bed - I don't know why that annoyed me so much on Prime Kup and I don't imagine it'd be too hard to "fix" this time around, but I suppose we can only hope!

Although, he does look like he's got a bit of angry-baby-face going on there; I can only hope that's an artwork thing that won't carry over to the final toy. It's hard to be a grizzled veteran when you look like a two-year-old who doesn't wanna eat his mashed peas.

i just got TR hot rod and am enjoying him much more than I thought I would... kup would be a cool addition to the line up, but I wonder about a TR rodimus..

I'm being swayed by the new moulds of figures released in the generations line... there's more of an anime vibe and some of the recent tranformation engineering has made them more fun and less fiddly than the generations figure, Kup being a good example of a solid toy but slightly fiddly...

Let the controversy begin, who is he a remold of? The way his double guns look it's like Hot Rod's which join side by side.

Un_Chakal wrote:Let the controversy begin, who is he a remold of?

Himself?

This isn't Combiner Wars where a ton of mold reuses was necessary to appeal to retailers.

Sabrblade wrote:

Un_Chakal wrote:Let the controversy begin, who is he a remold of?

Himself?

This isn't Combiner Wars where a ton of mold reuses was necessary to appeal to retailers.

Agreed this seems like another new mold. Hell probably get remolded into someone else but so far TR has done some great work with remolding. Only one that sticks out Is getaway and I picked him up last week and said "it's getaway, it's fine" obviously we'll be getting octane and blitzwing hut we're expecting that and there's not many problems with that.

Maybe they can get a Crosshairs out of him.

still holding out for a Voyager Rodimus w/ trailer.

Mechastrike wrote:still holding out for a Voyager Rodimus w/ trailer.

I'd wait on Power of the Primes line for that if they did it.

Kup looks pretty cool in that art, but I can't wait to see the toy!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

bodrock wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

bodrock wrote:AMAZING score from Ross!!

They might be my favorite place to hunt TFs simply cuz u never know wut u gonna get!

Mama always said that Ross is like a box o' chocolates.

I'm not a smart man, Sabrblade - but I know wut cheap is.

Simply put, you never know what you find in an open box of chocolates. I found melted pieces one day because one of my parents cats was sleeping on top of it

I found my dog (a beagle) in it one day. A box was buried at the bottom of a large Christmas bag filled with clothes and such. She dug her way to the bottom, got the box out, and ate all but 1 piece.

Dang girl didn't have any ill effects either, despite how chocolate is supposed to be really bad for dogs.

Bumblebeevis21 wrote:This isn't gonna be a computron situation either. After the first sighting a lot of people of TFW starting finding them.
There's only 2 each going to each Ross so far

Good to know in that regard. Maybe some people can get some really awesome scores!

hoping to find one for my nephew

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Kup looks pretty cool in that art, but I can't wait to see the toy!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

bodrock wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

bodrock wrote:AMAZING score from Ross!!

They might be my favorite place to hunt TFs simply cuz u never know wut u gonna get!

Mama always said that Ross is like a box o' chocolates.

I'm not a smart man, Sabrblade - but I know wut cheap is.

Simply put, you never know what you find in an open box of chocolates. I found melted pieces one day because one of my parents cats was sleeping on top of it

I found my dog (a beagle) in it one day. A box was buried at the bottom of a large Christmas bag filled with clothes and such. She dug her way to the bottom, got the box out, and ate all but 1 piece.

Dang girl didn't have any ill effects either, despite how chocolate is supposed to be really bad for dogs.

Bumblebeevis21 wrote:This isn't gonna be a computron situation either. After the first sighting a lot of people of TFW starting finding them.
There's only 2 each going to each Ross so far

Good to know in that regard. Maybe some people can get some really awesome scores!

I still haven't found any combiners other than Menasor at TJ Maxx or Marshals. I'd like bruticus or Computron even though I got United Computron which is perfect but hey, for $40 I'd be a fool not to.

I can;t wait to read about this TR Kup! I've been waiting for him for a long time! Looks like retooling from Blurr with Hot Rod's guns?

Nik Hero wrote:I can;t wait to read about this TR Kup! I've been waiting for him for a long time! Looks like retooling from Blurr with Hot Rod's guns?

Or he's a new mold.

I wonder how many people are going to score the cheap Fort Max at Ross, successfully remove the price tag, and return to TRU for store credit

o.supreme wrote:I wonder how many people are going to score the cheap Fort Max at Ross, successfully remove the price tag, and return to TRU for store credit

Hopefully none!

Cobotron wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I wonder how many people are going to score the cheap Fort Max at Ross, successfully remove the price tag, and return to TRU for store credit

Hopefully none!

Why? It'd only get them like, two deluxe's anyway

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I wonder how many people are going to score the cheap Fort Max at Ross, successfully remove the price tag, and return to TRU for store credit

Hopefully none!

Why? It'd only get them like, two deluxe's anyway

.....

If his alt mode looks closer to the movie than the Generations version, I'm sold. It will be nice to complete the Hot Rod, Kup, & Blurr trio.

Ooh cool. So unless this is Wave 5, we now know three of the Wave 4 deluxes.

This has been confusing me for a bit because the original rumour said Kup, Topspin and two previous-wave Redecoes (w/ new heads), with a deluxe Perceptor also being a general rumour. But now where do those two redecoes go? Split between waves or both part of Wave 5? And if the latter's the case, who's the last of Wave 4?

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I wonder how many people are going to score the cheap Fort Max at Ross, successfully remove the price tag, and return to TRU for store credit

Hopefully none!

Why? It'd only get them like, two deluxe's anyway

$150 would get more than two deluxes I'm thinking...

TRU will give you store credit without a receipt for the "lowest sale price in the last 90 days" to my knowledge Fort Max was never on sale at TRU.

Am I the only one that thinks this looks like it's obviously a repaint, or at best a retool, of the Blurr mold?

I'm going with new mold until proven otherwise.
But, if it were a retool of Blurr, his alt mode would have to face backwards. Otherwise I can't see how they'd get a truck bed out of that design.

I can... kind of see him possibly being a retool? But it's not something that's obvious to me looking at this and you'd have to tell me it is because this looks like a new mold to me. Rumours said it was a new mold too. If it's a retool... probably Scourge/Highbrow level. But nothing here indicates to me he's anything but an awesome new mold.

I guess my only question is how we're going to get the rest of the Targetmasters? We can probably discount Cyclonus since he just got a toy (and he just wouldn't work as a Headmaster), but that leaves us with 5 Targetmasters currently undone - Misfire, Slugslinger, Sureshot, Crosshairs and Pointblank. Are they just gonna make up most of Wave 5 and 6? I'd be really sad to not see them done.

Sabrblade wrote:

Un_Chakal wrote:Let the controversy begin, who is he a remold of?

Himself?

This isn't Combiner Wars where a ton of mold reuses was necessary to appeal to retailers.

I so agree to that. Even tho it's not totally out of the question, the chances of being a retool are significantly less than in CW.

Cobotron wrote:I'm going with new mold until proven otherwise.
But, if it were a retool of Blurr, his alt mode would have to face backwards. Otherwise I can't see how they'd get a truck bed out of that design.

Just to be fair, I've done some comparing between Blurr and Sergeant Kup (to be even more fair, Blurr has already been paired with Chromedome, and already retooled into Brainstorm. So he's not a candidate in my book) and they don't really match up.

Using the guns as an indicator is a no-no, as several non-related figures share that particular style, like Highbrow, Triggerhappy, and Twinferno. The only accessory that indicates part-sharing is the Titan Master: if he matches another release, it's a retool or part-sharer.

Kurona wrote:I can... kind of see him possibly being a retool? But it's not something that's obvious to me looking at this and you'd have to tell me it is because this looks like a new mold to me. Rumours said it was a new mold too. If it's a retool... probably Scourge/Highbrow level. But nothing here indicates to me he's anything but an awesome new mold.

I guess my only question is how we're going to get the rest of the Targetmasters? We can probably discount Cyclonus since he just got a toy (and he just wouldn't work as a Headmaster), but that leaves us with 5 Targetmasters currently undone - Misfire, Slugslinger, Sureshot, Crosshairs and Pointblank. Are they just gonna make up most of Wave 5 and 6? I'd be really sad to not see them done.

I have no crystal ball, but it would seem to make sense that we would get the rest of the Targetmasters as deluxes throughout waves 4-6. I was thinking possibly also Snapdragon, but since Apeface was a Titanmaster, Snapdragon will probably also. Would Hasbro use the Dino TM a 4th time?? I was thinking perhaps even a couple of the 1988 TM's, but I don't know how many empty slots there are. We are getting a few 1988 toy homages in Titans Return, but its really a mixed bag.

o.supreme wrote:

Kurona wrote:I can... kind of see him possibly being a retool? But it's not something that's obvious to me looking at this and you'd have to tell me it is because this looks like a new mold to me. Rumours said it was a new mold too. If it's a retool... probably Scourge/Highbrow level. But nothing here indicates to me he's anything but an awesome new mold.

I guess my only question is how we're going to get the rest of the Targetmasters? We can probably discount Cyclonus since he just got a toy (and he just wouldn't work as a Headmaster), but that leaves us with 5 Targetmasters currently undone - Misfire, Slugslinger, Sureshot, Crosshairs and Pointblank. Are they just gonna make up most of Wave 5 and 6? I'd be really sad to not see them done.

I have no crystal ball, but it would seem to make sense that we would get the rest of the Targetmasters as deluxes throughout waves 4-6. I was thinking possibly also Snapdragon, but since Apeface was a Titanmaster, Snapdragon will probably also. Would Hasbro use the Dino TM a 4th time?? I was thinking perhaps even a couple of the 1988 TM's, but I don't know how many empty slots there are. We are getting a few 1988 toy homages in Titans Return, but its really a mixed bag.

I think we could totally see Snapdragon and Apeface as late-wave Voyagers. Sure, Apeface was a Titan Master, but... so was Brawn and rumours say Optimus is gonna get a Titan Master. As well as Nightbeat getting a deluxe. I don't know why they're doing it this way, but... hey, just nice to know it doesn't cross out the possibility.
And, uh, rumours say that Voyager Apeface/Snapdragon will be a thing too. So yeah.
What I think would be really cool is if they both got Voyager and Titan Master releases. The individual Titan Master would be the face and the Voyager's Headmaster would be the beast head - since in the original toys the Headmaster turned into both robot head and beast head.

But yeah I mean, even if rumours weren't saying they're gonna happen, it'd seem a bit odd to me that in the headmaster-centric line where every Voyager is a triple-changer, the two original Voyager headmaster Triple-changers don't get to have a toy.

Cobotron wrote:I'm going with new mold until proven otherwise.
But, if it were a retool of Blurr, his alt mode would have to face backwards. Otherwise I can't see how they'd get a truck bed out of that design.

I cant see it either.But the reaso I think we all think Blurr off the bat is because kup and blurr have the same chest design in fiction (where in both cases, their chest is the cybertronian cockpit).

Apeface - "me tired of being pushed around all the time"

but hey, as Voyagers, that would be kind of cool. But an Optimus TM? I was just joking with my son that I guess they were going to do an Optimus in every size class...I guess we're not far off. We just need a Deluxe and a Titan LOL!

o.supreme wrote:Apeface - "me tired of being pushed around all the time"

but hey, as Voyagers, that would be kind of cool. But an Optimus TM? I was just joking with my son that I guess they were going to do an Optimus in every size class...I guess we're not far off. We just need a Deluxe and a Titan LOL!

Through the past three lines we've got an Optimus at every non-Titan size class. Thrilling 30 gave us Orion Pax and Legends Optimus, CW gave us Voyager Optimus, TR has given us Leader Powermaster Optimus and apparently a Titan Master... it'll be like lining up a matryoshka doll

With a sneer like that, Kup could join the Ninja Turtles....

i wouldnt rule cyclonus out just because he recently got a toy.
triggerhappy anyone

Bumblebeevis21 wrote:i wouldnt rule cyclonus out just because he recently got a toy.
triggerhappy anyone

I'd say that's probably gonna be an exclusive. He isn't in any of the rumor lists, and neither was Brainstorm.

Bumblebeevis21 wrote:i wouldnt rule cyclonus out just because he recently got a toy.
triggerhappy anyone

That did cross my mind... but no. The upper legs are similar, but nothing else. Let's keep Kup as a new mold until we see his Titan Master up close (via the magazine). Same for Topspin.

Bumblebeevis21 wrote:i wouldnt rule cyclonus out just because he recently got a toy.
triggerhappy anyone

Eh, still, the design of Cyclonus' head doesn't suit Titan Masters really, with the horns and such.

RiddlerJ wrote:Maybe they can get a Crosshairs out of him.

They can very easily get a Crosshairs out of him! The alt mode is a perfect split between the two.

Yeah it's like, the most headmaster-unfriendly head since AOE Lockdown.

Kurona wrote:Yeah it's like, the most headmaster-unfriendly head since AOE Lockdown.

Animated Lockdown's worse.

Looks alright from the artwork. The guns look crap like Hot Rod's though. Where's all their firepower meant to come from when they're so hollow?

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Looks alright from the artwork. The guns look crap like Hot Rod's though. Where's all their firepower meant to come from when they're so hollow?

Uh maybe they absorb the Force air particles and then fire them as lasers?


It's an explanation that makes total sense...totally.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Bumblebeevis21 wrote:i wouldnt rule cyclonus out just because he recently got a toy.
triggerhappy anyone

Eh, still, the design of Cyclonus' head doesn't suit Titan Masters really, with the horns and such.

Flip down horns
Spring loaded horns

The boxy shoulders and the windscreen area in the middle of this Kup's chest make me think of Ironhide. I hope he's a possible remold - I've been dying for a (decently painted) g1 Ironhide forever.

TF_JW wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Maybe they can get a Crosshairs out of him.

They can very easily get a Crosshairs out of him! The alt mode is a perfect split between the two.

Are you hinting at something there? Guess we'll know for sure when we see Recoil (if trademark allows. If not, I'm calling "Autobot Backfire"): if he resembles Pinpointer, another figure confirmed:


Transformers G1 1987 Recoil Gallery

vs.


Transformers G1 1987 Pinpointer Gallery

Bumblebeevis21 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Bumblebeevis21 wrote:i wouldnt rule cyclonus out just because he recently got a toy.
triggerhappy anyone

Eh, still, the design of Cyclonus' head doesn't suit Titan Masters really, with the horns and such.

Flip down horns
Spring loaded horns

Just flip down horns, as the face piece doesn't have enough room for a proper spring.

Easy Tiger wrote:The boxy shoulders and the windscreen area in the middle of this Kup's chest make me think of Ironhide. I hope he's a possible remold - I've been dying for a (decently painted) g1 Ironhide forever.

Ooh, that'd be a neat idea. And kind of a nice callback to Ironhide being turned into Kup in the TFP toyline.

Kurona wrote:

Easy Tiger wrote:The boxy shoulders and the windscreen area in the middle of this Kup's chest make me think of Ironhide. I hope he's a possible remold - I've been dying for a (decently painted) g1 Ironhide forever.

Ooh, that'd be a neat idea. And kind of a nice callback to Ironhide being turned into Kup in the TFP toyline.

Absolutely. You know, I really loved that mold, but I just wish that it was realeased as a properly painted red version. Never could make peace with the Arms Micron stickers...

And depending on how they do it it could cover the face backpack up

YES!!!!!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

TF_JW wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Maybe they can get a Crosshairs out of him.

They can very easily get a Crosshairs out of him! The alt mode is a perfect split between the two.

Are you hinting at something there?

I dunno if he was hinting at anything in that instance, but here's something that he was hinting at in another instance:

It's a really great design for the toy. Very G1 in both modes, yet just a little clunkier/bulkier to fit in with your Autobot bruisers.

The Titanmaster's name isn't Noble, but something a little more G1... Although it's the "wrong" Targetmaster (unless he abandoned Landfill).

The "Noble" thing was in response to another user wanting the Titan Master to be Action Man.

Wow, Triggerhappy looks like a bonafide badass....!

Picked mine up yesterday! They had 2 and 2 g2 bruticus there.

Bumblebeevis21 wrote:This isn't gonna be a computron situation either. After the first sighting a lot of people of TFW starting finding them.
There's only 2 each going to each Ross so far

Agreed. I saw this story and the following day I was out hunting at three different Ross' in my local area. Third tries a charm. Tonight I found the only two in the store. Both with minty boxes. I now have four total including this year's SDCC exclusive. Ross is swiftly becoming my favorite Transformers hunting grounds destination.