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Takara Tomy TAV-21 Optimus Prime Video Review

Posted by Autobot032 Aug 4, 2015 at 11:23pm CDT 38,511 views
Fellow Seibertron poster KirbyForce1 has provided us the link to JTMitchell87's YouTube review of this highly anticipated Takara Tomy import.

We've shown you images of the TAV 21 Optimus Prime, now it's time to see the video review and all the bells and whistles the figure has to offer! Lights, sounds and an armory befitting a giant semi that turns into a giant fighting robot and he's only $60.00 at your favorite Seibertron.com sponsor!

Check out the review in the embed below and then come on back to the forum to share your thoughts with us.



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Re: Takara Tomy TAV-21 Optimus Prime Video Review (view post)
Comment by Thadicon Aug 4, 2015
Hellscream9999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:So I pre-ordered mine through bbts, do we have any idea when they'll be getting them?


The big optimus? I thought they should be shipping them now. unless they have to wait till its released in Japan for them to get it, which doesnt make much sense.


Naw, runabout, says they were supposed to get him in july Image


Yeah they just changed a couple days ago to now August 2015 as the date. Im pretty excited for this little guy. Are they still re-releasing the tank Rumble and Frenzy or was that just a rumor?
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Comment by william-james88 Aug 5, 2015
Thadicon wrote: Are they still re-releasing the tank Rumble and Frenzy or was that just a rumor?


Not a rumour, it's happening:

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http://tfsource.com/transformers-adventure/tav-32-rumble-frenzy/

Although I have read that these molds werent great. Of course, all the reviews take the really big price of back then into account so its hard to judge.
Re: Takara Tomy TAV-21 Optimus Prime Video Review (view post)
Comment by jogunwarrior Aug 5, 2015
Runabout looks cool, but not the same without Runamuck by his side. As for Override, I really really want that figure. Looks awesome in those colors!
Re: Takara Tomy TAV-21 Optimus Prime Video Review (view post)
Comment by ScottyP Aug 5, 2015
fenrir72 wrote:http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIGURE-011306&page=top%2Fsearch%2Flist%3Fs_cate3%3D986%24s_maker%3DTakara+Tomy%24pagemax%3D40%24getcnt%3D0%24pagecnt%3D1

TAV-21 still available guys!
Aww dang it, I always assume Amiami is out of stock on everything ever, and with many of the regular stores like BBTS and TF Source already out of stock on this or not even carrying it at all I just dropped $74 shipped on it at Toy Arena.

I'm gonna go pretend the shipping from Japan would totally make that irrelevant even though I know better.
Re: Takara Tomy TAV-21 Optimus Prime Video Review (view post)
Comment by william-james88 Aug 5, 2015
ScottyP wrote:
I'm gonna go pretend the shipping from Japan would totally make that irrelevant even though I know better.


I am sure the shipping from Japan would totally make the extra savings totally irrelevant ;)
Re: Takara Tomy TAV-21 Optimus Prime Video Review (view post)
Comment by ScottyP Aug 5, 2015
william-james88 wrote:Although I have read that these molds werent great. Of course, all the reviews take the really big price of back then into account so its hard to judge.
They're not bad, just a touch fiddly. Pretty ambitious design to have the tank treads try to double as piledrivers and, while they got close, the final outcome is not quite completely satisfying. I'd still recommend them as a pretty good Classics Rumble/Frenzy, but it might be worth waiting to see what Hasbro does next year (assuming Buzzsaw and the leaked Blaster image are bell-weathers for all the cassette characters)
Re: Takara Tomy TAV-21 Optimus Prime Video Review (view post)
Comment by Madeus Prime Aug 5, 2015
Was going to submit this but somebody beat me to the punch.

Re: Takara Tomy TAV-21 Optimus Prime Video Review (view post)
Comment by OptimalOptimus2 Aug 5, 2015
TAV-21 is an okay figure. But something tells me that Hasbro designed the toy and Takara was able to release the mold first before Hasbro. Just speculating. >:oP
Re: Takara Tomy TAV-21 Optimus Prime Video Review (view post)
Comment by fenrir72 Aug 5, 2015
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:TAV-21 is an okay figure. But something tells me that Hasbro designed the toy and Takara was able to release the mold first before Hasbro. Just speculating. >:oP


Hasbro paid the TT engineers to design and TT to manufacture. Correct.
Re: Takara Tomy TAV-21 Optimus Prime Video Review (view post)
Comment by Madeus Prime Aug 5, 2015
fenrir72 wrote:
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:TAV-21 is an okay figure. But something tells me that Hasbro designed the toy and Takara was able to release the mold first before Hasbro. Just speculating. >:oP


Hasbro paid the TT engineers to design and TT to manufacture. Correct.

Hmph, guess it shows that Takara's toy designers know how to make a simpler toy but preserve the interactive play value.
Re: Takara Tomy TAV-21 Optimus Prime Video Review (view post)
Comment by william-james88 Aug 5, 2015
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:TAV-21 is an okay figure. But something tells me that Hasbro designed the toy and Takara was able to release the mold first before Hasbro. Just speculating. >:oP


Interesting speculation, what gives you that idea?

In any case, here is the proof that he was fully an in house design. It's an interview with the designer and you see him proudly holding holding the grey scale. He was introduced in the magazine similarly to how deluxe Groove was introduced:

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Re: Takara Tomy TAV-21 Optimus Prime Video Review (view post)
Comment by william-james88 Aug 5, 2015
Madeus Prime wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:TAV-21 is an okay figure. But something tells me that Hasbro designed the toy and Takara was able to release the mold first before Hasbro. Just speculating. >:oP


Hasbro paid the TT engineers to design and TT to manufacture. Correct.

Hmph, guess it shows that Takara's toy designers know how to make a simpler toy but preserve the interactive play value.


I am not sure about that Fenrir, I dont think hasbro was involved with this Optimus although the design of the animation model was done before the toy (unlike the olden days) so technically, it is a Hasbro based design. But the toy was concieved by Takara, check proof above. So it remains, that Takara designed the toy.

Also, Madeus, from what I hear, this Prime isnt simple at all. I am assuming he is no less complex than the Animated or Cybertron Leaders.

Although what I find crazy is how it is the guy who made Masterpiece Sideswipe and MP 10 who came up with the Transformation for 3 step Bumblebee and 3 step Grimlock.
Re: Takara Tomy TAV-21 Optimus Prime Video Review (view post)
Comment by Madeus Prime Aug 5, 2015
william-james88 wrote:Also, Madeus, from what I hear, this Prime isnt simple at all. I am assuming he is no less complex than the Animated or Cybertron Leaders.

No, I meant compared to the crap we're getting in general from the RID and TA (the one-steps, etc.). This guy I'd snap up for $40 bucks in the states, a purchase I wouldn't normally consider for something from the RID line, of which I own only one figure, Strongarm.
Re: Takara Tomy TAV-21 Optimus Prime Video Review (view post)
Comment by william-james88 Aug 5, 2015
Madeus Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Also, Madeus, from what I hear, this Prime isnt simple at all. I am assuming he is no less complex than the Animated or Cybertron Leaders.

No, I meant compared to the crap we're getting in general from the RID and TA (the one-steps, etc.). This guy I'd snap up for $40 bucks in the states, a purchase I wouldn't normally consider for something from the RID line, of which I own only one figure, Strongarm.


Oh I see. I would recomend Drift as well (maybe the Drift and Jazz takara exclusive set with IDW Drift colours), he is as complex/simple as any other TF and has a very nifty transformation and excellent Weapon storage.
Re: Takara Tomy TAV-21 Optimus Prime Video Review (view post)
Comment by fenrir72 Aug 5, 2015
william-james88 wrote:
Madeus Prime wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:TAV-21 is an okay figure. But something tells me that Hasbro designed the toy and Takara was able to release the mold first before Hasbro. Just speculating. >:oP


Hasbro paid the TT engineers to design and TT to manufacture. Correct.

Hmph, guess it shows that Takara's toy designers know how to make a simpler toy but preserve the interactive play value.


I am not sure about that Fenrir, I dont think hasbro was involved with this Optimus although the design of the animation model was done before the toy (unlike the olden days) so technically, it is a Hasbro based design. But the toy was concieved by Takara, check proof above. So it remains, that Takara designed the toy.

Also, Madeus, from what I hear, this Prime isnt simple at all. I am assuming he is no less complex than the Animated or Cybertron Leaders.

Although what I find crazy is how it is the guy who made Masterpiece Sideswipe and MP 10 who came up with the Transformation for 3 step Bumblebee and 3 step Grimlock.


For this mold, TT did this on their own (all the leg work). Unless like the previous henkei where some designs were done by Hasbro's domestic team, most of the time Hasbro pays TT (and its engineers) to design a "box full of fun things" and manufacture the item in their Japan,China, Thailand and Viet Nam factories.

The original concept , Hasbro. Then those guys tell Hasui and the like, we want it like this yada yada yada.

Hasui or the other guy who designed those one step changers.....not surprising as they are just mechanical geniuses! :x
@ Optimal, you are kinda correct on some parts and some off the mark as TAV21 is indeed a TT exclusive. Don't hold your breath for a domestic release.
Re: Takara Tomy TAV-21 Optimus Prime Video Review (view post)
Comment by Thadicon Aug 5, 2015
william-james88 wrote:
Thadicon wrote: Are they still re-releasing the tank Rumble and Frenzy or was that just a rumor?


Not a rumour, it's happening:

Image

http://tfsource.com/transformers-adventure/tav-32-rumble-frenzy/

Although I have read that these molds werent great. Of course, all the reviews take the really big price of back then into account so its hard to judge.


Safe as. That's me dude I am preordering these chaps. I missed out last time not this time though.
I have seen some reviews but the only bad things I saw was the pile driver would always go off when they were transformed. Other than that the price was quite high and still is on the secondary market for 2 scout class trnaformers.

Do you know where the preorder for BBTS is? EDIT: Flag that just found it and preorder them now :KREMZEEK:
Re: Takara Tomy TAV-21 Optimus Prime Video Review (view post)
Comment by OptimalOptimus2 Aug 5, 2015
william-james88 wrote:
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:TAV-21 is an okay figure. But something tells me that Hasbro designed the toy and Takara was able to release the mold first before Hasbro. Just speculating. >:oP

Interesting speculation, what gives you that idea?

Hasbro designed the Transformers: Age of Extinction toys. Age of Extinction is the worst Transformers toyline (in my opinion) due to cheap plastic and terrible quality control, plus, the lack of variety. Hasbro introduces the toys to Takara, so they could release their very own versions. Takara Tomy, in both Age of Extinction and Robots In Disguise, repainted and retooled molds from previous and current Transformers series into new toys. Or, Takara would manufacture new toys for the series. (For example: The great quality Three Step Lost Age Optimus Prime.) Takara's history of Transformers toys is quite phenomenal due to the control in the quality. The fact that TAV-21 has thin plastic and hollow parts gives me the conclusion that Hasbro designed the Optimus mold first, introduced it to Takara, then Takara releases it before Hasbro could announce their version of the toy. Hardly, if not never, has Takara released poorly designed Transformers toys exclusive to their company.
Re: Takara Tomy TAV-21 Optimus Prime Video Review (view post)
Comment by william-james88 Aug 5, 2015
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:TAV-21 is an okay figure. But something tells me that Hasbro designed the toy and Takara was able to release the mold first before Hasbro. Just speculating. >:oP

Interesting speculation, what gives you that idea?

Or, Takara would manufacture new toys for the series. (For example: The great quality Three Step Lost Age Optimus Prime.) Takara's history of Transformers toys is quite phenomenal due to the control in the quality. The fact that TAV-21 has thin plastic and hollow parts gives me the conclusion that Hasbro designed the Optimus mold first, introduced it to Takara, then Takara releases it before Hasbro could announce their version of the toy. Hardly, if not never, has Takara released poorly designed Transformers toys exclusive to their company.


Actually that 3 step aoe takara exclusive prime you mention was the example i was going to give to show that it is common foe takara to make their own designs amidst a toyline with mainly hasbro designs. Sadly, this rid optimus is confirmed to be a takara design and not a hasbro one. Although i didnt know it had cheap plastic. And i didmt find aoe plastic or design that bad. I feel its thr best movie line so far in terms of general aesthetics and transformation. And thr plastic was leagues ahead of the aweful garbage plastic usef in thr foc line. Now THAT was bad (and all hasbro).
Re: Takara Tomy TAV-21 Optimus Prime Video Review (view post)
Comment by fenrir72 Aug 5, 2015
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:TAV-21 is an okay figure. But something tells me that Hasbro designed the toy and Takara was able to release the mold first before Hasbro. Just speculating. >:oP

Interesting speculation, what gives you that idea?

Hasbro designed the Transformers: Age of Extinction toys. Age of Extinction is the worst Transformers toyline (in my opinion) due to cheap plastic and terrible quality control, plus, the lack of variety. Hasbro introduces the toys to Takara, so they could release their very own versions. Takara Tomy, in both Age of Extinction and Robots In Disguise, repainted and retooled molds from previous and current Transformers series into new toys. Or, Takara would manufacture new toys for the series. (For example: The great quality Three Step Lost Age Optimus Prime.) Takara's history of Transformers toys is quite phenomenal due to the control in the quality. The fact that TAV-21 has thin plastic and hollow parts gives me the conclusion that Hasbro designed the Optimus mold first, introduced it to Takara, then Takara releases it before Hasbro could announce their version of the toy. Hardly, if not never, has Takara released poorly designed Transformers toys exclusive to their company.


Hasbro works together with TT. Either the concept comes from Hasbro then is sent to TT to be tranlated into toy form or vice versa or a little of both. Hasbro holds the patents. So if TT wants to release an "exclusive', the too pay Hasbro the rights of the TF brand.

AoE was designed by those self same designers of the MP line. How it turns out depends on the cost hasbro is willing to release them. If Hasbro wants it cheap, then TT releases them cheap.
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