Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Simplified Voyager Wave 1 Available for Pre-Order

That new Optimus Prime mold would have been mildly tempting had Hasbro not ruined it with that neon-green grill and back kibble. Yuck.

mooncake623 wrote:Shouldn't they be cheaper than that? I thought the whole point of up-sizing these is to make it simpler and cheaper(then normal voyagers)?

Simpler, yes.

Cheaper? Nah, what That Bot said about more profit for lower production cost at the same retail price. It's just following a trend I've seen with, say, that ugly wave of 5-joint Avengers toys that's retailing for about the price super-articulated 3.75" Joe and Marvel Legend figures used to just a few years ago, while the good ones collectors want are going for +$10. The bulk of toy sales are parents who don't know the difference buying for little kids who wouldn't really appreciate intricate detail and articulation anyway, so it's a logical cost-cutting move to offset creeping plastic prices. As long as we can tell the difference, they'll still make enough of what we want.

I am a little confused about these being "new" molds; was someone jumping to conclusions about actual Cyberverse upscaling and retooling before? I was hoping that Commander-to-Voyager trends would give us proper Insecticons, but if these are genuinely new sculpts, I can probably abandon all legal hope and go back to waiting for KO companies to take the hint.

I would get these for customizing. i see a thunderclash coming out of that mold.

So we're basically getting Cyberverse Figures on Steroids? Nice Hasbro!

That Predaking looks alrit to me. It might even look better than the original voyager. It has more color cooler looking wings with the translucent plastic, more paint, and I don't see them twin dragon head gun things that were shadowing the main dragon head. But one thing I don't like is the simpling down part. Sounds like they might have took out that one of a kind of way that the first voyager legs transformed. Thats kind of a trade off for the additions . But overall not bad. Oh and I'm sure it is more articulate than the other one.

Want that Predaking but that's it

Bumblevivisector wrote:I am a little confused about these being "new" molds; was someone jumping to conclusions about actual Cyberverse upscaling and retooling before? I was hoping that Commander-to-Voyager trends would give us proper Insecticons, but if these are genuinely new sculpts, I can probably abandon all legal hope and go back to waiting for KO companies to take the hint.

Not quite. Optimus Prime is definitely an upsized Cyberverse design, with some joints replaced with swivels, or swivels added. Predaking, from what I can tell, is all new, but takes some cues from either Beast Fire or Commander Predaking.

Personally I hope this line fails and fails miserably and those responsible for this idea are beheaded, or at the very least fired, as well as those that fully supported the idea. Less articulation for the same price... NOT!

If you want simpler transformations, then buy a preschool age Transformer Rescuebot. Don't go messing up my Deluxe and Voyager lines.

Now I do like the idea of possibly upsizing all five of the Cyberverse Terrorcons into Deluxe size just to get a decent sized Abominous. As it is right now, only Sinnertwin and Cutthroat are getting the upsizing treatment and I'll likely buy them just for the size factor and the possibility of creating Abominous. Of course if the line fails miserably as I hope, then we'll likely not see Blot, Hun-Grr, or Ripper Snapper upsized to Deluxe. But then, when has HasTak not beaten a dead horse.

As it stands now, if I want an amazing, humongous Abominous created from five Terrorcons, then I'll have to put my faith in the 3rd Party groups (preferably Mastermind Creations) to make one, regardless of the price. The 3rd party groups seem to be the only ones to get these Transformers right for us diehard fans while HasTak continues to fail us at every turn and these upsized Cyberverse figures are proof of that.

You know what I would like? That predaking to be down-scaled again to give us a decent commander class.
I really want to add predaking to my cyberverse lineup but the commander figure just doesn't begin to do him justice

wolverinetodd wrote:If you want simpler transformations, then buy a preschool age Transformer Rescuebot. Don't go messing up my Deluxe and Voyager lines.

They stated at SDCC that these figures are meant to bridge a gap between one-step transformers like Rescue Bots and the more complex deluxe stuff. In other words, they're targeted at a younger age group than normal.