Transformers: The Last Knight Set Image - Optimus Prime Enemy, Bumblebee Alien
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Comment by SW's SilverHammer
Jul 3, 2016
Well props for the movie not %100 hitting the retcon button. Maybe there'll be some continuity bridging that happens exclusively in non-cannon promotional material. Like all of the other movies.
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Comment by Rainmaker
Jul 3, 2016
Interesting, do they hate Bumblebee though? Or he just an alien?
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Comment by TurboMMaster
Jul 3, 2016
I think it's to late for trying estabilishing something "for certain". Bayverse timeline is already illogical in too many places.SW's SilverHammer wrote:Well props for the movie not %100 hitting the retcon button. Maybe there'll be some continuity bridging that happens exclusively in non-cannon promotional material. Like all of the other movies.
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The entire Transformers franchise is already illogical in too many places right from day one back in 1984...
Comment by Carnivius_Prime
Jul 3, 2016
TurboMMaster wrote:Bayverse timeline is already illogical in too many places.
The entire Transformers franchise is already illogical in too many places right from day one back in 1984...
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This is very true plus till the movie comes out we won't know what needs explaining from AoE.
Though in my opinion the area where most questions will be centred on is the dinobots, as I'm where are they now.
Comment by ZeroWolf
Jul 3, 2016
Carnivius_Prime wrote:TurboMMaster wrote:Bayverse timeline is already illogical in too many places.
The entire Transformers franchise is already illogical in too many places right from day one back in 1984...
This is very true plus till the movie comes out we won't know what needs explaining from AoE.
Though in my opinion the area where most questions will be centred on is the dinobots, as I'm where are they now.
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The person that first leaked Squeaks the Vespa long before he(?) was officially announced said the Dinobots will be back in this movie along with smaller Dinobots.
Emerje
Comment by Emerje
Jul 3, 2016
ZeroWolf wrote:Though in my opinion the area where most questions will be centred on is the dinobots, as I'm where are they now.
The person that first leaked Squeaks the Vespa long before he(?) was officially announced said the Dinobots will be back in this movie along with smaller Dinobots.
Emerje
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Comment by Kurona
Jul 3, 2016
Is this just like, gonna be a thing now? Just everyone hate the Transformers in every movie?
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Given how much death and destruction they've caused, why would they be welcomed with open arms?
Comment by Burn
Jul 3, 2016
Kurona wrote:Is this just like, gonna be a thing now? Just everyone hate the Transformers in every movie?
Given how much death and destruction they've caused, why would they be welcomed with open arms?
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Thank you beat me to it transformers series was always different with new series being released headmasters, beast wars, rid, armada, prime, animated
Comment by dragons
Jul 3, 2016
ZeroWolf wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:TurboMMaster wrote:Bayverse timeline is already illogical in too many places.
The entire Transformers franchise is already illogical in too many places right from day one back in 1984...
This is very true plus till the movie comes out we won't know what needs explaining from AoE.
Though in my opinion the area where most questions will be centred on is the dinobots, as I'm where are they now.
Thank you beat me to it transformers series was always different with new series being released headmasters, beast wars, rid, armada, prime, animated
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It's pretty much understandable, only so much of humanity would be welcoming if the tfs came in peace from the start, plenty of people would be afraid and start to hate. Just look at more down to earth real examples when people of different races mix. Especially when people believe that just because one small group cause trouble, they all must be trouble.
That's also not counting people using them as scapegoats for other problems.
It would take a large act to get people to look at them without fear but it may never go away.
Also good news about the dinobots
Comment by ZeroWolf
Jul 3, 2016
Burn wrote:Kurona wrote:Is this just like, gonna be a thing now? Just everyone hate the Transformers in every movie?
Given how much death and destruction they've caused, why would they be welcomed with open arms?
It's pretty much understandable, only so much of humanity would be welcoming if the tfs came in peace from the start, plenty of people would be afraid and start to hate. Just look at more down to earth real examples when people of different races mix. Especially when people believe that just because one small group cause trouble, they all must be trouble.
That's also not counting people using them as scapegoats for other problems.
It would take a large act to get people to look at them without fear but it may never go away.
Also good news about the dinobots
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At least they aren't as bad as the x-men movies with continuity. You gotta shut your brain off to ignore all the problems with those movies.
Comment by Randomhero
Jul 3, 2016
Carnivius_Prime wrote:TurboMMaster wrote:Bayverse timeline is already illogical in too many places.
The entire Transformers franchise is already illogical in too many places right from day one back in 1984...
At least they aren't as bad as the x-men movies with continuity. You gotta shut your brain off to ignore all the problems with those movies.
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I'm suddenly reminded of a quote from Deadpool
Comment by Hellscream9999
Jul 3, 2016
Randomhero wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:TurboMMaster wrote:Bayverse timeline is already illogical in too many places.
The entire Transformers franchise is already illogical in too many places right from day one back in 1984...
At least they aren't as bad as the x-men movies with continuity. You gotta shut your brain off to ignore all the problems with those movies.
I'm suddenly reminded of a quote from Deadpool
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Comment by SeventhSage
Jul 3, 2016
Oh great we're going with this story again. I thought the humans would have been able to get it through their tiny heads after 4 giant battles
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4 giant battles where many thousands of innocent human beings lost their lives cos of a war between two giant alien factions?
Comment by Carnivius_Prime
Jul 3, 2016
SeventhSage wrote:Oh great we're going with this story again. I thought the humans would have been able to get it through their tiny heads after 4 giant battles
4 giant battles where many thousands of innocent human beings lost their lives cos of a war between two giant alien factions?
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Yeah, but it's like Man of Steel, where human lives don't matter
Comment by Hellscream9999
Jul 3, 2016
Carnivius_Prime wrote:SeventhSage wrote:Oh great we're going with this story again. I thought the humans would have been able to get it through their tiny heads after 4 giant battles
4 giant battles where many thousands of innocent human beings lost their lives cos of a war between two giant alien factions?
Yeah, but it's like Man of Steel, where human lives don't matter
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The problem is that the humans are all "kill the autobots", when they have been fighting and dying to save their ungrateful afts. Some acknowledgement of the actual aggressors would be nice, but the humans are killing the bots for what other members of their species did. It's something that happens a lot in real life, but they still aren't justified.
Comment by Microraptor
Jul 3, 2016
Hellscream9999 wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:SeventhSage wrote:Oh great we're going with this story again. I thought the humans would have been able to get it through their tiny heads after 4 giant battles
4 giant battles where many thousands of innocent human beings lost their lives cos of a war between two giant alien factions?
Yeah, but it's like Man of Steel, where human lives don't matter
The problem is that the humans are all "kill the autobots", when they have been fighting and dying to save their ungrateful afts. Some acknowledgement of the actual aggressors would be nice, but the humans are killing the bots for what other members of their species did. It's something that happens a lot in real life, but they still aren't justified.
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Realistically we would of killed all of the Autobots by this point instead of working with them at all in a program like Nest.
Plus not all Humans hate them just a few civilians mostly those affected by the attacks and Cemetery Wind which was it's own rogue operation independent from the government mostly (otherwise how would they have gotten away with killing allies?)
We are Humans we are A-holes that tend to shun/kill everything we consider outsiders I mean I remember when I was a kid and until I was around grade 8 I was pretty racist and I kinda looked down on people with other skin color I have changed since but my point is that we tend to be bad.
Comment by Deadput
Jul 3, 2016
Microraptor wrote:
The problem is that the humans are all "kill the autobots", when they have been fighting and dying to save their ungrateful afts. Some acknowledgement of the actual aggressors would be nice, but the humans are killing the bots for what other members of their species did. It's something that happens a lot in real life, but they still aren't justified.
Realistically we would of killed all of the Autobots by this point instead of working with them at all in a program like Nest.
Plus not all Humans hate them just a few civilians mostly those affected by the attacks and Cemetery Wind which was it's own rogue operation independent from the government mostly (otherwise how would they have gotten away with killing allies?)
We are Humans we are A-holes that tend to shun/kill everything we consider outsiders I mean I remember when I was a kid and until I was around grade 8 I was pretty racist and I kinda looked down on people with other skin color I have changed since but my point is that we tend to be bad.
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I'm not arguing against it in terms of fiction, it's definitely more realistic. I just don't get why people out-of-universe complain about it.
Comment by Microraptor
Jul 3, 2016
Deadput wrote:Microraptor wrote:
The problem is that the humans are all "kill the autobots", when they have been fighting and dying to save their ungrateful afts. Some acknowledgement of the actual aggressors would be nice, but the humans are killing the bots for what other members of their species did. It's something that happens a lot in real life, but they still aren't justified.
Realistically we would of killed all of the Autobots by this point instead of working with them at all in a program like Nest.
Plus not all Humans hate them just a few civilians mostly those affected by the attacks and Cemetery Wind which was it's own rogue operation independent from the government mostly (otherwise how would they have gotten away with killing allies?)
We are Humans we are A-holes that tend to shun/kill everything we consider outsiders I mean I remember when I was a kid and until I was around grade 8 I was pretty racist and I kinda looked down on people with other skin color I have changed since but my point is that we tend to be bad.
I'm not arguing against it in terms of fiction, it's definitely more realistic. I just don't get why people out-of-universe complain about it.
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I'm sure they tried to kill some of the
's, but I bet that got pretty messy, what with the 's likely enjoying squishing humans 
Comment by Hellscream9999
Jul 3, 2016
Microraptor wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:SeventhSage wrote:Oh great we're going with this story again. I thought the humans would have been able to get it through their tiny heads after 4 giant battles
4 giant battles where many thousands of innocent human beings lost their lives cos of a war between two giant alien factions?
Yeah, but it's like Man of Steel, where human lives don't matter
The problem is that the humans are all "kill the autobots", when they have been fighting and dying to save their ungrateful afts. Some acknowledgement of the actual aggressors would be nice, but the humans are killing the bots for what other members of their species did. It's something that happens a lot in real life, but they still aren't justified.
I'm sure they tried to kill some of the
's, but I bet that got pretty messy, what with the 's likely enjoying squishing humans
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Comment by Deadput
Jul 3, 2016
It's not like they hate the Autobots exclusively they hate all Cybertronians and are probably in the mind set that the military could defeat them without the Autobots and plus outside of those that witnessed the Autobots themselves most people don't really know how much the Autobots helped them.
